Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I'm not sure that LL or SL has really thought this out well enough....they are talking about bringing businesses in and education and supposidly this is the main factor for this move...but...everyday there are more and more layoffs of people in these companies that SL and LL want to bring into the grid....I read everyday of teacher layoffs...shool closings....wonder where the money will come from to pay for all of this.
They already have us (adult) people here who have helped them earn $350 million last year.
I cant understand why they would bite the hand that feeds them and treat us with such disrespect..and they have granduer ideas that at most is only speculation...because the economy of the world is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better....seems to me they are taking one hell of a gamble at a time when they should leave well enough alone to insure they make the next $350 million...because what i read here and what I hear inworld many will leave.

Endpoint: these companies and education organizations will at the last minute review their situtions and I believe most will say ...sorry SL we just cant afford to do this at this time...and a lot of *ADULT* people will have left SL because of the forced move..say goodbye to the $350 million for this year...MHO

Blondin, I am very upset.... after being told specifically the meeting would be mainly text, "The meeting will take place on PR Island (We’ll TP you in). It will happen primarily via text." Only the questions were in text so my joining in the meeting was a complete waste of my time. I do not understand this fixation LL has on voice.... everyone has text but not all have or use voice. But Lindens continue to use it for meetings. I guess me and others who use just text should spend our time elsewhere, The Lab really should provide meetings for everyone, not just voice users. Again I am very disappointed in LL again.

Im getting very tired of LL treating text citizens as second class citizens.

i feel thisis a stupid idea if they want to let kids play give them there own grid why put them on ours i do not want to give my personal info to them taht is our information that should be kept private unless we want to give it out they are prety much forcing us to give them this or dont play on the sims we all love to be on ie.: the regent sims. if this is done there will be alot less people playing sl at least if tehy feel the same way i do.

OK, so let me see if I have this straight. Here are the controls, in the order checked. :

First gate - Getting past the Region maturity setting:

REGION: Set at World Menu > Region/Estate... > Region tab

Here there is a "Maturity" setting that currently has two values: Mature and PG, which have no affect on access today. Once the new plan goes into effect, there would be three values here: Adult, Mature and PG.

A NEW access gating requirement will be in place here. *IF* the setting for the Region is "Adult", then no access at all, at any altitude, via flying/walking in from an adjacent sim, or by teleporting in from any other sim, unless "Resident has Payment info on file" OR "Resident is an Age-Verified Adult" (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check).


Second gate - Region access approved, Getting past the Estate-level access settings:

ESTATE: Set at World Menu > Region/Estate... > Estate tab

[ ] Allow Public Access. If that is checked, there are two additional restrictions below that
Restrict Access To:
---[ ] Residents with Payment info on file
---[ ] Age-Verified Adults (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check)

So an estate that only wants to allow access for sim owner, estate managers, specified groups members, and an explicit allowed access list for the estate would leave the "Allow Public Access" box unchecked, and the sim would remain securely private.

Or an Estate that was open to the public could further restrict at this level to allow ONLY those individuals who had passed the Aristotle age check, by checking the "Allow Public Access" box and the "Age-Verified Adults " box here.


Third gate - Access to the Region and Estate is approved, now check the Parcel access settings, and if you fail, you can't get within 50M of the ground (768 M if explicitly banned by name). :

PARCEL: Set at World Menu > About Land... > Access tab

[ ] Allow Public Access. If that is checked, there are two additional restrictions below that
Block Access by:
---[ ] Residents who have not given Payment info to Linden Lab
---[ ] Residents who are not Age-Verified Adults. (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check)

These are largely worthless, unless EVERYTHING you hope to restrict is on the terrain surface.

Unchecking "Allow public access" and checking the option for group access or adding names to an access list only protects to 50M above the terrain.

Checking "Allow public access" and checking the option to block access for anyone who is not an Aristotle Age Verified adult will again only keep the non-verified resitents out of the lowest 50M above the terrain.


Is that how this will work, Blondin?

So what would texters who use adult content be considered? Third class?

So what does a person/group with group only land in a mature sim on the mainland do?

Will they be exempt from being told to flag as "ADULT" or will they have to let all that are verified in to their group haven/home/club?

Me thinks this plan has an awful lot of holes in it.

now that is interesting. They're obviously afraid of something. The question is what?



typical LL build? municipal buildings huh? and what need is there for those? to house the morality police?

I saw the roads.. certainly a lack of imagination in their layout. Still don't see any snow capped mountains leading down to a tropical beach in the space of a sim

be the same, 2nd class

I understand it. It's not malicious, it's just confused. The higher ranking Lindens have been saying for some time now that more than half the grid is using voice. (There was a post on this thread citing a Guardian UK article in which Kingdon himself says this.) And they're not lying: they actually believe it.

And you can bet that this mistaken belief stems from some statistics that were collected at some point that showed more than half the usage hours were on viewers *capable* of voice, or maybe even had voice "enabled" (as it is by default on a fresh install).

Of course anyone who's spent any time on the grid knows that at most maybe 10% of residents are using voice to communicate, little white voice-dot over their heads notwithstanding.

I'll bet that somebody received very public acclaim for a successful deployment of voice, as measured by one of the above criteria, and now the ubiquity of voice is assumed by all those Lindens who just don't know any better.

We're just lucky they haven't yet released the new improved no-text viewer.

Blondin, new questions...

1. Forgot to ask... is LL planning any sandbox areas on Ursula?

2. I know this will likely fall under the definitions, but are there any loose guidelines regarding images yet, either art or promo for product? For instance nudity is allowed in a promo image but hands must be away from 'erogenous zones' etc or it constitutes an adult promo. Personally I err on the side of caution in promo images but there may be people who haven't though of it and would face either moving or redoing a number of product promos to stay mature.

thanks again

If I elect to not move and Keep my business parcel in the mature sim it is in either will allow access to my primary adult content to anyone but keep people out of my shopping mall!

I foolishly put my Free Sex area in a SkyBox connected by TP !
I also believe the "more mature then mature" content on the upper floor of the building is also above the banlines.

Interesting huh?

I do understand it but cant agree with it, they would rather reach out to a slightly higher than 50% of the citizens rather than 100%

What do you expect as customer service for $350 Million customers money a year? Hahahaha. More than some slaps and upper-cuts are not to get, for these few peanuts of money.

The pizza service of my choice here in Vienna works with text-orders, live-textchat, phone, sms, web formulars, touch screen, and even moaning and belly grumbling by hunger and thirst, hahaha, and now serious: in 10 languages! In words: TEN! beside the local native german we have: italian, turkish, slovenian, serbo-croatian, french, english, japanese, greek, chinese and czechian, because Vienna is multi-cultural grown. (all text via web and some are spoken by the international mixed employees)

This is service, hm, LL?!

Ha!

And now look at LL. American chewing gum cowboy English and only crch crch ratatatatat, chr chr voice, with the most poor sound quality ever, since Graham Bell is mousedead and dust, lol.

For an international audience, made of hundred nations.

Jesus, I die laughing here.

They are service technical beaten by a small average pakistanian driven fake italian, fast food pizza service somewhere at the outskirts of Vienna Austria in the darkest province of Europe, where the bunnies and the owls say good-night each other at 8 p.m. and the walkways are lifted up vertical at 9 p.m.

But 17 h - daily world-class service for an converted eight dollar and 50 cent product.

If you have a "Free Sex Area" on your parcel, and you will have to relocate to an Adult flagged region, or delete the adult content that is publicly accessible.

Col Klink and Sgt Schultz need someplace to stay.

You know , that is why I bought in mature in the fist place.
Somebody changed the rules! eeeeeeekkk!

Yep. Which is one of many reasons why this is one of the longest "complain about LL's stupid plan" threads in the history of Linden Lab...

They are arbitrarily redefining what is acceptable on "Mature" land to something much closer to PG. Anyone who wants the level of personal freedom they bought Mature land for will have to move now to an Adult region. Mature isn't mature enough any more.

I dare say 3/4 of the people in those meetings wished they could be anywhere else.

OK, 14 of them. Like I said, there's no point in meetings with more than a handful of people.

With elaborate "rules of order" to cover for the fact that voice is inherently less efficient than text.

Leave out the conference call bit, if you have more than two or three people involved, and you'll be even more effective.

I've seen too many control freaks make statements like that in all seriousness.

The only clear and objective definition of 'adult' throughout most of the world is legal age, usually 18+

All other definitions of 'adult' are subjective, arbitrary and problematic.

Good luck.

you really do need to have a reality check mate, I was being sarcastic in that first post.

I can't help it if you don't work with professionals and/or aren't good with public interaction. You are looking foolish now and that chip you seem to have on your shoulder probably needs to be looked at.

Why are you so intent on squabbling with people atm? haven't you got a cat to kick in rl or something?

In a thread over at SLU about a different subject than this, someone described a cumbersome process as "using salad tongs" to hold a soup spoon. I think it is a good analogy for this situation, and for many of L's answers to solving problems. Over thought, byzantine and ineffective.

This seems like a good time to remind you that there are several full fledged Deaf communities in SL. Your audio only recordings are not going to be particularly helpful to them. And yes, some of them are quite vested in the adult content argument.

Those of us who are not Deaf would also like a snazzy text transcript, if just for ease of quoting, ability to referance it quickly, ability to distribue IN WORLD via notecard, ability to run that text through translators for the large nonenglish speaking user segments, etc.

These are importaint issues to the user base as a whole. More accessability would be very much apreciated. Or in some cases, the ability to access it at all.

One of my biggest worries is that SL will not be able to give me similar land...and I know I have to move!
My question is what will determine who goes first?
How much land we hold currently or by join date?

The problem is...if someone a little older than I am, (if we use join dates), goes to only sim left available that would work for me and decides they want their 4096, which is all they own in the very center of the sim how will I be able to place my 55000+ to be the same as I have it now?
I currently have water on the north and south sides of my sim....I have seen one sim I would accept and it only has water on the west side...but without a doubt I will have to have water since that is why I bought the land where I am now...anything less will be unacceptable!

I feel that the ones who hold the most land should get first choice...since we pay more tier
and this is what all this is about isn't it? money!

No offense to anyone who has been here longer but money talks and you know the rest.

I would even be willing to only own 3 sides of the sim as long as I get my water!
That's what I paid for and anything less like I said is unacceptable.

P.S. and NO mountain land and NO solid water land.

Too many stupid bloody meetings today keeping me from getting anything accomplished, of course.

A cautionary tale for the Lindens…

Once upon a time there was a company called Amazon that decided to tidy up its lists of books by removing adult material. Or as Amazon put it:

“In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude ‘adult’ material from appearing in some searches and bestseller lists. Since these are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.”

In pursuit of this policy, works by authors such as Gore Vidal, Steven Fry, E M Forster and Janette Winterson were removed from Amazon lists. However, titles such as ‘Playboy: The Complete Centrefolds’ and ‘The Anarchist Cookbook’ remained.

Perhaps understandably, a number of people were not particularly happy about this move and said a much on Twitter, Facebook and blogs. Their comments were picked up by the mainstream media who decided to contact Amazon to find out what was going on.

Amazon said that there had been a “glitch in our system and it’s being fixed.” But this did not seem to make a lot of sense so Amazon had another go:

"This is an embarrassing and hamfisted cataloguing error for a company that prides itself on offering complete selection. It has been misreported that the issue was limited to gay and lesbian themed titles.

"In fact, it impacted 57,310 books in a number of broad categories such as health, mind and body, reproductive and sexual medicine, and erotica. This problem impacted books not just in the United States but globally. It affected not just sales rank but also had the effect of removing the books from Amazon's main product
search.

"Many books have now been fixed and we're in the process of fixing the remainder as quickly as possible, and we intend to implement new measures to make this kind of accident less likely to occur in the future."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/apr/14/amazon-gay-sex-rankings-apology