Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread
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Rosen Janus
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03-26-2009 04:12
From: Vahn Dagger JUST BACK UP ONE MINUTE HERE!
I just read the Knowledge Base's article on age verification..
Charging a fee for age verification?
.. are you seriously even leaving that option open?
You're the ones forcing this upon us! There's NO reason anyone should be handing over a single penny for age verification purposes! Could be an old article, but a serious concern nonetheless. If I have to be subjected to fees for something LL forces on us, then LL as well as many mature businesses might as well say goodbye to many existing and potential users. |
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Beca Staheli
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03-26-2009 04:19
This change is only gonna alienate a lot of people with established work on SL, and turn away many of them as well.
When something that is not real begins to be treated as it is, it defeats its whole purpose of not being real. What this means is, by giving more real life rules to SL your basically ending the point of a virtual second life.
Should certain rules and regulations apply? of course they should, but not to the extent of ending the basic concept behind this so called Second Life.
Today anyone can have experience with adult content, tv, newspapers, movies and the readily available internet. This change is not removing a "problem" because there is none, this is just a band aid to cover up SL.
I hope this doesn't goes through, or if it does LL rethinks it again as I mentioned earlier this is gonna alienate a lot of users and could possibly have a boomerang effect on the whole SL community.
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Zigadena Gabardini
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03-26-2009 04:20
From: Ryuu Radek
One of the things that makes SL what it is is the ability to be anyone you want to be. Anonymity is a big draw for people to SL. In order to become age verified residents have to fully disclose their name, address, date of birth, as well as the number of some recognized means of identification. I am a premium member so most of this information is already on file but I even felt a little, no, a lot of hesitation about disclosing all of this information for the age verification process. I'm sure that in some cultures the disclosure requirements are no big deal, but the overwhelming majority of sl residents are from the US and our culture holds a very high value on privacy.
It's my feeling that we will find that people just do not want to bother with becoming age verified. The vast majority of people who come to sl are not premium account holders. They are happy to acquire lindens through inworld employment or endeavors, these requirements would be unwelcome and many people would simply go elsewhere./QUOTE
That happens irl all the time. It would be a shame if the last bastion of freedom were to fall to the vocal minority.
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No not even that is true, maybe we who are used to less privacy enjoy the freedom even more than you do..... To the rest:Yes I Agree! |
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catseye Fride
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what the hell are you doing
03-26-2009 04:22
ok you need to tell these guys to back off second life and not give in to there demands, otherwise where dose it end. once you give in there will want more and more until you are bankrupt and some one else with the guts to stand up to them will ban these people like you should do LL. I'm am not saying that these people don't have the right to be herd but if you let them force you into making decisions that will hurt your bottom line then you will be in some serious trouble in the future and what about the businesses that will have to move will you reimburse them the land and will you pay them for the money they will lose because of this action and the fact that all the land in the sim you move them to will sky rocket so no one but the rich will be able to buy it when they decide to sell the land and you will lose more money in the process. so I'm asking you please do not give in to them and I don't if this true but plaese keep the teen grid separate teens are the worse greifers ever
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Lord Sullivan
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03-26-2009 04:23
From: Rosen Janus Could be an old article, but a serious concern nonetheless. If I have to be subjected to fees for something LL forces on us, then LL as well as many mature businesses might as well say goodbye to many existing and potential users. Its the original article from 2 years ago and incorrect as it stands HTH 
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Vahn Dagger
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03-26-2009 04:27
From: Rosen Janus not all adults want to see two furries doing sexual things that are anatomically impossible in a public sandbox. Sounds very specific. Are you speaking from experience?  |
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Vahn Dagger
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03-26-2009 04:30
From: Lord Sullivan Its the original article from 2 years ago and incorrect as it stands HTH Doesn't change much. Age verification is still in beta. Edit: Sorry. I'm used to forums that automerge doubleposts. |
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Lord Sullivan
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03-26-2009 04:35
From: Vahn Dagger Doesn't change much. Age verification is still in beta.
Edit: Sorry. I'm used to forums that automerge doubleposts. Has been since it started 2 years ago and still doesn't work properly in world
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Vahn Dagger
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03-26-2009 04:46
Age verification isn't working for me and I'm almost 100% sure I put in the right info.
Then again, my ID card was issued just last year.
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Waterstar Eilde
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03-26-2009 04:51
From: Vahn Dagger Age verification isn't working for me and I'm almost 100% sure I put in the right info.
Then again, my ID card was issued just last year. NO, don't do it - the system is broken! See Qie's post @ #2425 |
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Jill Winger
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I know of two going bust
03-26-2009 04:59
From: Grady Vuckovic 162 Pages of "No", and yet LL still thinks they are hearing, "Yes". If I was gonna buy LL a birthday gift, it would be a hearing aid. :3
I don't feel like there is much more we could really discuss at this point, I think LL's mind is already made up, all we can do is just bend over, and take it. Or leave SL. Think I might take my own advice, "Don't like what you see, hit the close button". ._.
Edit: Didn't see that above me before posting, which club was it? Spunky Monkey is one, another (I won't name it now) is going soon. Those are ones *I* know about. |
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Bhakta Thor
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Powerless in Second Life
03-26-2009 05:03
From: Beca Staheli This change is only gonna alienate a lot of people with established work on SL, and turn away many of them as well.
I hope this doesn't goes through, or if it does LL rethinks it again as I mentioned earlier this is gonna alienate a lot of users and could possibly have a boomerang effect on the whole SL community. I have seen the latest update from Second Life on this, and honestly, I feel totally powerless to have any influence on what I think is a very bad idea on many fronts e.g. defining adult, making a new continent, forcing people to move..etc. So, I will just sit this out and see what happens and then decide if I still want to play. This is the only computer game I have ever played or had any interest in yet I have no ownership in any part of it. Bhakta |
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Imaze Rhiano
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03-26-2009 05:08
Why those who don't want to see sexual content move to PG sims and stay there?
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Vahn Dagger
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03-26-2009 05:08
From: Waterstar Eilde NO, don't do it - the system is broken! See Qie's post @ #2425 Ah. Thanks. Any ETA on when these changes will take place? |
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Agnetha Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 05:12
From: Noxx Everidge Okay, I went ahead and did the Age Verification, and you know what? It doesn't touch the PIOF. So yeah, now I'm upset. The PIOF needs to be removed, or synched up to age verification. One or the other. I'm upset enough that I had to pony up a portion of my SSN, but I'm sure as heck not gonna put my credit card on the block. What is crazy is that some sites are already moving to 'Payment Info On File'.....on the BASIS of these LL changes, and yet :- 1) Age verification DOES NOT WORK for anyone outside the US....largely because they have not provided a large enough post code field, etc. 2) Being age verified does not make a blind bit of difference on sites set to 'Payment Info On File '. Crazy ! 3) There has been no means provided to tag any alt accounts as belonging to the same person as a paid account. THESE ARE NOT MINOR ISSUES !! LL...GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR ! LL is making proposals....when most of the basic infrastructure for applying them is a sham. Sim owners are ALREADY taking action on the LL proposals and blocking access to adult accounts that cannot get in BECAUSE of LL incompetency. This is a complete farce. |
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Vahn Dagger
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03-26-2009 05:13
From: Imaze Rhiano Why those who don't want to see sexual content move to PG sims and stay there? My sentiments exactly. But you have to agree that it's rather annoying to fly from a nice, safe PG zone to a Mature zone with half-naked people. I have my moods where I don't want to put up with it. Moving the sims is a good idea now that I think about it, but the age verification is the part I don't get. |
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-26-2009 05:18
From: Noxx Everidge Suppose one performs an Age Verification. Does that mean that "Payment Info On File" will be flagged? No, and it shouldn't. PI is not proof of age. From: Noxx Everidge
Furthermore, I think if you ARE age verified, you should have the OPTION not to display it in your profile, as a security measure to make your account look less tempting to phishers.
Age verification does not mean you have PIOF. It will not show up in your profile. |
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-26-2009 05:19
From: Teqi Falta
it makes me think, LL wants to combine tiny SL with adult SL.
All the Tinies I know are adults, even if they DO want to do strange things with waffles. |
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Rayne Keynes
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Ursula is taking shape
03-26-2009 05:21
I was mapping around Ursula tonight while in world and it looks like the are setting up roads on a grid pattern at the sim junctions,... so not only do we have to move to the new continent, we also have to be shoved into some stupid grid arrangement like a damn city,... so much for creative land scaping,...
On another note, one of my employees had an issue tonight, he is 22, has played SL for 18 months, has a credit card on file and buys L$ regularly directly from LL,.... no age verification for him,.. system failed him and he lives in the US.
For anyone doubting still, like my business partner, this is going to happen. LL has said so. We are not here debating whether it should or not, nothing we can do will stop it. All this forum is serving as is a public record for the Lindens to refer too in the aftermath, when they take a look around and wonder where all their residents have gone, and why they can no longer afford all their servers.
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Ann Otoole
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03-26-2009 05:21
I think Second Life needs a G rated continent accessible only to identity verified accounts for the very obvious reason that the griefers will still be griefing all the welcome areas and PG lands with all the same and probably worse offensive content.
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Duke Aker
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Can you use your provisional licence?
03-26-2009 05:23
Can you use your provisional driving licence, i know it only says drivers licence, but can you use your provisional one to? please reply back anyone ^^
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Deltango Vale
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And the winner is....
03-26-2009 05:23
From: Grady Vuckovic
*Smacks LL on the head with a newspaper*
Bad company!
The best post I have ever seen.
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Rayne Keynes
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03-26-2009 05:24
I agree, making Ursula G or PG and sending all new residents there and then slowly moving all the 'PG' people over to it would be the wiser idea. It won't happen though, it makes too much sense and would be way to easy,...
I'm glad that my real life home is still for me to any adult thing I want to in, loed knows that nowhere else is.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-26-2009 05:25
From: Grady Vuckovic Wow, Openlife looks DAMN encouraging right now... 75USD a month for 45,000prim region? You can run your own OpenSim on your own computer and get your 45,000 prim region for no additional charge, if you want. If you don't mind falling through prim platforms. |
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Trilla Burner
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03-26-2009 05:26
From: Vahn Dagger My sentiments exactly. But you have to agree that it's rather annoying to fly from a nice, safe PG zone to a Mature zone with half-naked people.
I have my moods where I don't want to put up with it. Moving the sims is a good idea now that I think about it, but the age verification is the part I don't get. Ever think that maybe it's just as annoying to the people allready there to have someone fly into their Mature area uninvited? Also, do you stay and be annoyed, or fly elsewhere? Everyone has ' moods ' ... most ( in an adults only grid ) are mature enough to move on and not complain / be annoyed. Cheers, Trilla
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