Feedback on Ad Farm post

Hey folks, this is out of hand, certainly and not productive.

You may want to rethink and edit some recent posts before I have time to issue warnings privately.

Jack is working on his next blog post on these issues.

LL's requesting the closing of all unlicensed banks would not have caused any residents to lose money from responsible banks. A responsible bank would have issued refunds on all of their depositors accounts.

You have a warped way of looking at things and your messages are a poor attempt at trying to convince others to see things in your same warped vision. This is exactly how con artists and scammers work.

Funny, but I don't recognize your name as the owner of any plots. But your message has someone else's FootPrince all over it. Face it, your game is over. Why don't you rejoin the human race and offer your plots at the market - yes, market rate of 6 L/m and let people do something useful with the land you are sitting on?

What a hero we have here. Weedy Herbst calls me a loser - no wonder - virtual communists in SL hate civilised debate. No logical arguments, just hatress.

Soon you will live in a sterile, over-governed system.

Hi there, I'm just contacting you to make sure that you have read the recent blog post regarding the mainland and network advertising (ad farming), the blog post can be found here: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/09/04/second-life-and-ad-farms/ By the 1st October you will need to have removed your adverts from your mainland parcels. Failure to clear adverts from the mainland will result in your account being suspended and your account will not be considered for a network advertising license. Please continue to check the blog for further information on network adverting on the mainland.

I might be wrong but I think Joshua meant 8m wide by 6m high with small depth like a bill board, which will fit snuggly on a 32sqm plot.

i looked at a certain "well thought of" persons pics from Caledon today..pics of "horrid ad farms" and then pics of her? building and testing particle effects to place near them - despite living nowhere nearby she has taken it on herself to go harassing what has been and still is an allowed activity.

Half of you talk of Robo as a robber theif extortionist etc - he aint putting a gun to your heads...You don't have to buy his plots..no-one is forcing you... ya'll just don't like it cause you want the land but its not at your price. Boo hoo. Shift? its very easy. Don't buy? it s even easier!!! His activity was/is legal in SL and name calling just makes ya sound like bunch of whiners. I don't like it either but i do believe he has the right to do whatever he wants on his land as long as he aint harassing.

Great idea, but I already thought of that. We have a public boat rezzing area at our store in Lilypad - anyone who wants to come by and rez a boat on the Linden waterways, look up my store in Lilypad - Puppet Art - and give it a go. We even have a box of free boats to give you out on Xi's fishing dock.

I'd do the same for my roadside land in Disl, but I never see anyone on the roads there - who would want to drive through there with the wrecked adfarm view? I look forward to doing some cleaning up when the adfarms are gone, and I plan to implement my own public rezzing station if the Lindens don't create one first. It would be so much more effective for the Lindens to do it, though, because my prim counts are limited, since I don't own the road and the prims that go with them.

Also, Luke, if you insist on calling all anti-adfarmers communists, shouldn't you be calling us comrades, instead of friends?

The things people are saying in this thread now - I almost feel sorry for the Lindens having to wade through it.

With as many advertising companies I see out there in the grid and all the land they pay/ paid for (including tier invested over time), I wouldn't be surprised if there were some legal action taken if thier companys are squashed without some compensation. Even if a business is not popular with the masses but conforms to TOS/ TOC, they deserve equal treatment, protection and compensation. If LL intends to reclaim all ad parcels by force, I sure hope they have well thought out any legal ramifications. Some of these companies are pretty big and seem to have invested a lot of time, effort and exspense. Not that I support either or but Gnu is a good example.

People report to me griefing and abuse that LL has ignored or missed and I do my own investigations. If I find the issue to be in need of attention it is handle with a simple device I supply.

Through my investigations and the reports I have recieved since my SL birth, I see a ton of TOS/TOC violations coming from these "virtual tree huggers" and thier supporters. A lot of out right abuse. I am all for your right to protest within the confines of the rules but when you step outside the rules you then become that which you protest against.

If we are to make some rules governing ban lines to extort, lets talk about Arbor Ban Ball device. This is an attempt to extort these people who choose to cut land to stop. The pay off if they comply, appologise and make ammends is to be removed from the "black list". This in itself is a form of extortion. If you take the TOS/TOC word for word, that device and these actions are griefing.

Lets move on to the Ad Zoo. Although cute, it is only a way for Timo to pump up his realty business and get some PR for others. Yea, it sounds nice and may be cute to some but I have proof and reports of the TOS/TOC violations used in its earlier developement. 17 violations to be exact, which LL did take care of. So support the Ad Zoo while him and his partners walk away with your Ls and enjoy success from the ignorance of new comers.

Now I am sure I will get some hate IMs and replies in this thread after this post. Thats okay, I stand firm as a neutral party, always keeping an eye on dirty big business in SL. Don't worry, I will have something to say about some of the advertisers who are really in it to make a fast buck from you all but not all of them started and maintain thier business to extort etc.

You all need to open your eyes and see that big business is going to tell you what you want to hear, kiss your butt and do whatever is popular to get your approval. Which is also good business. It is good business until they use griefing tactics and abuse to win your favor. We see it all the time in RL and of course when you can hide behind a screen and fling some dirt, it is going to happen more often and easier. Politicians do it all the time to get ellected. Pat your back with one hand while they steal your wallet with the other.

You are all mirrors of each other. Cheap carbon copies are always worth less than an original. So keep the dissension among the masses so they can run to the bank and cash those checks.

Bad leaders are replaced by good leaders that turn bad. ~Che


My input for LL, think about the legal actions before you make a move.

Calling someone a comrade means, that you are in close mental or social relationship with such person. And that is simply not our case. You basically try to create a feelling that this debate is about Mr Termagant vs community. No, not really. This debate is about principles of liberty. Only owners of virtual land should decide about placed objects and land pricing. Fullstop. In the Second Life, whoever denies this basic principle is a virtual communist. In reality I am not your enemy, I am your ally. Ally in the matter of Liberty.

Just so everyone knows what Cytherea is saying

hu ihpey wicayapo = an expresssion used by warriors calling for total defeat of an enemy, with the implication that the enemy will be forced to submit to sodomy.

This in itself shows you what kind of person she is and to add love ya at the end is even more disgusting. Don't try to hide behind native languages thinking there aren't people who might speak this. And don't try and hide behind the "I'm an american indian, so I don't have to abide by your laws" thing either. You commit a crime off res, you are subject to american laws. You commit a crime on res, you abide to tribal laws, and sometimes that also means turning you over to the wasichu (derogatory term for white man).
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Actually you did not translate that properly either word/ phrase and misspelled one.
You also left a word out of one phrase.

Wasicu means "fat eater" or "someone who is not enviable". I derivitive of "wasna".
In the past it was used to refer to all people who came from over seas to abuse our people. NOT just white man. The context I used it was "non-enviable person".

Hu ihpey yelo wicayapo means "there is an obvious false defeat here to be seen".
You left out "yelo" to change the meaning. Also there is no meaning in there about sodomy...lol. Was that something you through in there for a little spice to your banter?
Hmmmm makes me wonder about you. To each their own though eh?

You should educate before you communicate my friend. Just like in most Native Tongue and even other languages you cannot translate things into english properly. I see a ton of mistranslations of our language all over the net and there is no doubt by the translation you gave, this was pulled somewhere from it.

Only Native American Studies, also known as NAS, in many south and midwest higher learning facilities offer proper education on Sioux tongue.

Educate before you communicate wasna.
Your translations are so funny I had to let a few people read them.
We got quite a laugh. Pilamaye "Thank you".

Find a real Sioux dictionary written by a Sioux who speaks the language. Those are best to learn from if you wish to do so. IM me in world if you wish I give you some books that will allow you to learn properly so you will not make an jackass of yourself again.

lol

Always the basher never the peace maker.

ONE MORE TIME..... PEACE.

Aho!

People that threaten with lawsuits should be deleted anyway for being retarded. LL does not have to have a reason to delete any account they choose. it is in the TOS you speak of.

Seems to me this group of ad farmers is threatening Linden Lab in an attempt to extort now and need to be removed even faster. Last person I know to have threatened legal action in connection with Secondlife turned and ran with tail between legs when it came down to the actual time to head to court. These people that threaten lawsuits are immature and have no experience with legal matters or they would not even be discussing it openly since nothing has happened. But since they are attempting to extort Linden Lab by threatening lawsuits then Linden Lab needs to delete them as an example of who is in control and who wrote the TOS.

Customers have full right (and now a real reason) to sue Linden Lab. It is simply not your business.

Only owners of virtual land should decide about placed objects and land pricing.

It is nice to see how some people seems so neutral, deffending his/hers fellows AdFarmers.

They are really a joke. I can t stop laugthing

LL can pull your account on a moment's notice, and there is nothing you can do about it. Now THAT'S liberty!