Feedback on Ad Farm post

Name calling, false accusations, and caught out?.. how respectful you aren't, how easily you prove my points. Take the time to look at my profile Ordinal before you lay your misinformation out there... then ya wouldn't look so foolish.

I weep for your quality control process if you believe that "building and testing" is equivalent to "hovering and looking at something someone else has done".

I might have to make a "Communist Vision" attachment now.

But will it be compatible with twitter?

4999L$/16m2 = 312L$/m2

Average price of mainland land = 7L$/m2

312L$/m2 divided by 7L$/m2 = 44.5

ROBO Marx is telling one of his victims to pay nearly 50 TIMES the going rate for mainland or he will sell a parcel in the middle of their property for an ad tower.

I think the "construction of extortionism [sic]" is pretty undeniable.

Sounds great, let us know when it is done.

For the system not to be gamed, there would also need to be a (very low) limit on the number of ads allowed per sim, design and height limits, and limits on use of glow, light, and particles. And most importantly--any licensing system needs to be CLOSED to the current crop of adfarmers and their alts. They caused the problem; they should not profit from the solution.

Thanks for keeping this thread on topic, folks, and for taking that deep breath before posting.

All possible usefullness of this thread was gone eons and eons ago. It's degenerated to where it predictably should be by now. It's hard to believe the moderator is spanking us and telling us to be nice with all the unbelievable B.S. that's spewing in here from the ad farming community. In my opinion, even the most angry and abusive posters are being way too nice to them.

Just for kicks, I invite people to Google some of the notorious ad farmers from this thread, and see for yourself what utter liars they are. See for yourself what they have done to SL and why they won't be missed. In particular, look up the one who likes to call for PEACE, and see what kind of peace she has brought to Second Life. Utterly amazing lies. It's hard to call something done in a virtual world "evil," but there it is, people.

Giving any of these people licenses would be giving henhouse licenses to foxes. Sorry folks, but you are the entire reason for this policy. Stop the lies. Kill this thread.

EDIT: Of course my posting lands just after Katt's, making me look like an ass. You have a tough job, Katt, and I appreciate what you get stuck with. But I can't believe this thread is still going after nearly every prohibition on the books has been broken at some point. Emotions are justifiably high. I'm sure Jack has seen every possible point of view expressed by now.

Still pretending not to be sucking at the corporate welfare teat of Linden Lab? Its the people fighting to end the adarm problem--a problem inadvertently created by a series government (Linden Lab) decisions that are the champions of the free market, here.

The free ride is over. Time to work for a living.

Spoken like a true communist!

/me runs and hides from Carl.

So you will have to charge 100 times the average price of mainland instead of just 50 times? Oh wait--you sell your 16m2 parcels at 9999L$ already. So I guess that means you will have to raise your prices to 200 times the average price of mainland.

Regarding the development of predetermined billboard formats... one format might look wonderful in one region, but could completely clash in another. (a region that the residents have grouped together and skewed it toward a Gothic style would not quite look right with a standard "roadside style" billboard. An ultra-modern based region would not seamlessly incorporate a billboard made of irregular stones and mortar)

It is an interesting starting point, but would need to be refined.

The practice of counter-revolutionary ad-farming as espoused by criminals "R. Marx" (a particularly offensive alias) and "L. Termagent" will be punished by a hard spell in the labour camps once the October Revolution comes, Comrade Tsure - you mark my words.

I tried, but I can't help it...

Katt, what thread are you reading?

(shutting back up now)

So whats the linden thought on this discussion just add some thoughts to this we need a linden to discuse with keep the topic on track kinda thing anyway I think this is a great move for mainland well overdue look forward to seeing if mainland will ever look like the good old days full sims full of builds instead of barron chess squares ..

I would like to see land sale listings that actually describe the land, rather than advertising land rentals, gaming, politics, or other things.

Land listings should include the sim name, the seller's name, and a general description of the land. Nothing more.

Land listings that point to other locations are simply bait-and-switch operations, and should be against the TOS as well.

Oh, and I'd like to be able to search by sim name, terrain (snow, grass, mountains, beach), and/or seller.

And I'd like pie.

I want one. Can it have glowing red stars for eyes?

Would it include a Cold War ray to freeze my enemies?

It should also have an Iron Curtain to drop on things.

And pie.

I have actually started scripting this. At the moment, when it is activated, it sends out red hammers and sickles from one's eyes, with the Internationale playing in the background. Ideally it should also nationalise anything on a 16m2 parcel that is hit, though that is a bit tricky to do by script.

An Iron Curtain option is an excellent idea! I shall certainly add that. Perhaps also a "Siberia" one which sends people off to the salt mines in a swirl of snowflakes.

One other thing should be taken into consideration. Many of these ad farms (including the one next to my shops in Chiron) have numerous abandoned lots as well as semi abandoned, ad protester lots owned by groups and alts who have no intention of selling them or removing their BUY PASS or NO ACCESS barriers, as well as mishmosh of prim traps, deep pits and ad blocking walls. Talking specifically about ones owed by two alts with the last name QUESTI, that marble the ad lot that I have been attempting to reclaim. I have maybe two thirds of it reclaimed, but there are others to trade or buy out, and all these Questi lots. I've filed ARs on them but nothing gets done about them because he's not asking for money, just being a royal pain in the butt who won't respond to IMs at all. One thing I'd like to see is those lots being offered to adjacent land owners first, if and when they are reclaimed, rather than putting them on auction.


And I would also like pie... I mean if everyone else is having pie.

I totally agree! Ads only at very few reserved places and NO gadgets like glow, light, particles & sounds. Also no intrusive scripts: messages only by IM if the object is touched. The same for LMs and NCs.

I hope that "no license for current ad farmers" is self-evident for LL. Ad farmers showed no liability in the past, so why should they in the future?

Let's all run for a license once they are available. If they are limited as Jack said in his blog, every unused license is a good license!

... and that's EXACTLY why I specifically suggested an LL sponsored contest, with different categories for styles and eras to stimulate "standard" billboards that would fit a wide variety of sims. The only real standard in them, from an advertiser's viewpoint, will be the aspect ratio of the ad copy, so that it would not be necessary to re-size the board for every ad.

Then, make them available like Linden Trees, and there's NO excuse for not using them.

I sincerely hope you are not joking, Ms Malaprop, as I would most certainly want to acquire one of these when they are ready!

That's not a bad idea actually. Take it a step further and issue a folder full of "officially licensed Linden billboards" with the license. These could conform to different terrain and predominant architectural styles for whatever sim they're in. ie; Oriental, Tudor, Modern, Futuristic, Roadside America, etc... Have the contest, offer a prize, yada yada. Great idea!

(looks around) ...uhhh how's that pie coming?

Perhaps they could be available in the inventory's library - only for licensed advertisers and NO TRANSFER to prevent black market. So everybody seeing such a billboard (the designs should be presented in SL Wiki) knows if it's authorized or not.