Age Verification is here!!

Well, I do hope they fix that before they close even one single parcel based on age verification. My SL Partner is Canadian, and I'd really hate to have her locked out of our home and our sim. But that is what will happen if they implement it and she still can't verify her age. I'll have no choice but to lock her out. If they force me to lock her out, and if it can't get fixed, there's no point in my remaining in SL.

It's not going to be free for most of the people on the grid. It's free for Concierge at the moment, as it's in beta.

yeah, I really HATE the land based system.

I wish that they had gone with being able to rate objects as adult, rather than land. But I suppose this was too hard to do.

It's a joke... anyone can pan in and see and buy it anyway, unless they just see nothing on the parcel. Which is also BAD ... your sim will look horrible to people who haven't verified.

I hate the implementation of this, its very bad. I don't hate the idea of verification, though.

Ya know that even brings up another question. Sex is defined by an act between 2 consenting adults. At least in the states adults would be concidered 18, now i know some states say that porn or anything to that effect you have to be 21, can't say with other countries, does this mean you have to be on an ADULT parcel if you have sex animations in your house? Or does this mean that since its mature your good to go. Lots of grey area in the matter. Makes me wonder though, what is mature. If sex is now ADULT, what is mature? PG is kinda easy to identify. mature would be just a place for adults to spend time without (in theory mind you) the minors around?

You should work for LL, at least you have common sense. LOL. Your right would make more sense to have the option for items to be sold as adult based items, but then again that doesn't control the whole brothel style sims. I can think of a few places that are full of nothing but sex, not just items for sale but basically the sim is one big ass orgy

The current consensus seems to be that anything that doesn't conform to PG needs to be marked as adult restricted so you have:

* PG
* Mature with no actual mature content (PG)
* Mature with actual mature content (Restricted)

well, actually, sex based sims can just flip the switch to adult and be done. It's easy for them.

I'm concerned about sims like Caledon, where I live in SL - where the sims are not all about sex, but sex happens, you know... like real life. People have relationships, they have sex, it is part of ... yeah.

Real Life. Sex is part of Real Life. Most sex in Real Life happens in someone's bedroom, between a pair of consenting adults, in an area that is not necessarily all about sex. In fact, these people DO NOT WANT to be in an area all about sex. They just want a bit of privacy for themselves. It does not usually happen out on the street in one big orgy.

That means sex is part of Second Life, whether anyone likes it or not. Look at the map in SL sometime... late at night. All those little pairs of green dots. Ever ask yourself why they are in pairs. Couples. Two people? Because that's how relationships and you know, the associated sex that happens in relationships, usually happens between most normal average people.

Yup, mature is going to be a redundant flag.

To be honest, I really wouldn't know, I don't get off the 3 sims we have much. LOL, talk about a lack of a secondlife huh? But regardless, as it was put, Mature = PG sim for adults

Actually, PG sim for everyone. Because even those who haven't verified identity can access them. Mature has become redundant - except for I suppose the odd bit of nudity. I guess that is all that differentiates them. (no nudity in PG sims)

but for some folks, even nudity is considered adult - now that's not the case in Germany (where this whole fuss started anyway) but I suspect we're going to see American moral standards applied to German hysteria over kiddy porn, which is the worst of BOTH worlds!

ah i get it you can swear on a mature sim but not on a pg sim, so basically its a language filter LMFAO

Had the link, verified. worked with my last 4 digits of my Social Security Number. Head did not explode. SL didn't crash. *peeks outside* Sky didn't fall.

premium account holder, used paypal, switched to CC

and do not have the age verification link

Own a sim? If not then thats why, its for members that own private sims atm. Untill its out of "beta"

The age verification, over 18 is a good idea in theory but in practice... pretty flawed. Here's my reasoning: (Hyperthetically only, as I do not own any land.)

I have a house on a PG SIM. So I want to have a huge sex orgy. All I have to do is take the poseballs or beds out of my inventory and put them in my house. Later I can take them off. It's unlikely that the land owner will be checking everything all the time so it will slip by. But little Johnny may come buy and see.

Identity theft is rampant in the USA. Anyone who really wants to use SL for illegal purposes will probably have no problem using fake credentials to get verified.

Restricting the adult content is a good idea.. but PG sims will them become very un-PG because all the foul mouth griefers will be forced to go there.

Also the statement says it will INITIALLY be used to restrict content! That means they have some other evil plan further down the road. I can see a time when individual objects will be flagged as restricted and the server will automatically check to see if you have any on your land or in your inventory. If you do it would not surprise me in the least if LL decided to introduce monetary fines to prop up the flagging economy. And oh yes, extra code running on the servers to introduce more lag.

I would advise everyone to make screen shots of all the verification process and keep them on file. If your identity gets stolen shortly after you verify, you will have documentation to turn over to a lawyer.

You have to be a concierge level account. I.E. own a sim.

Half a sim. If you pay $125/mo in fees, you're in da club.

I guess thats true for mainland. On estates its either you own the whole sim, or nothing.

Actually, I would like it if they had it on objects vs. land. And you obviously havent been paying attention to what LL has said in the past - they wouldnt have fines, they would just make them invisible.

I dont mind if the noob with the huge dick on his head has the penis made invisible to me because it got flagged in the system as being adult.

I would mind seeing banlines all over the place for new folks just because of this content restriction system, it makes SL even more unfriendly to new folks.

I wonder why this wasn't announced at the SLCC? After all, it's a big 'step forward' in their thinking... so what better a place to break it to the playerbase?

Or... did they know it would go down like a plate of ham sandwiches at a barmitzvah, and left it till now?

A couple of years ago, my veterinarian required check verification (for a $34 visit) that was backed up by an Integrity system. Subsequently, Integrity managed to mess up access to my credit card because my information "had not been on file long enough". Evidently the credit card company used an Integrity verified flag as one of their account markers. If Integrity had never heard of you, no problem. If they had and marked you not completely verified, the system flagged your account. After calling Integrity directly, I found out that it would all "blow over" in a month and I simply didn't use my credit card for that period. Had that been my only card, I would have been outraged.

I am not eager to engage with these clowns again.

Agree 100% with this. As we know, the community is divided between the "alternative reality" people and the "extended real life" people, and if we ever had any doubt (which we should not have had), LL is itself tipping the scale in favour of the latter.

Based on what LL said in that blog, we're going to have all kinds of information "verified" ("voluntarily" of course ... but of you don't you will be excluded from things either by the grid's design or by social convention) and, if we choose, "displayable" on our profiles. Basically like an "A/S/L" tab that is "optional" except that people will expect everyone to have it filled out. Over time, the hope is that everyone will migrate to voice and A/S/L disclosure, and LL can get on with selling SL as a platform for corporates to extend their own RL activities into SL, rather than having SL as an alternative reality (something that has no interest to corporate and educational users, the ones that LL really cares about). Gone will be the alternative reality, largely, other than in pockets, and SL will become, largely, an extension of real life with pixellated graphics (something it is for many users already).

Pfft. Poor show, Philip Linden. Selling out on your own bloody idea ....

ahh nope I just manage a couple sims

dang and I was gonna verify myself

*shrug* oh well

more then likely they know there would be a huge controversy about it just like it has been on the forums. in which the SLCC was designed to be fun, why add to the drama? Sure ya got some of that with ppl having a wee bit much to drink. lol

Concierge customers only at this stage.