Age Verification is here!!
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
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08-29-2007 09:47
I just verified using a California driver's licence. Wasn't a big deal. Here's what many don't realise: they *already* have your data, and your info is all over the internet, available in microseconds. For obviously, how else can they verify it? This is a paid service I'm sure, but I just verified for free. I'm wondering what it's costing the Company to do this.
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Midnight Paragon
Registered User
Join date: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 38
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08-29-2007 09:48
From: Brenda Connolly I don't doubt they are taking action looking out for their business interests, that's perfectly logical. Just stop with the bullshit, "Protecting, the children". "creating atmosphere of trust" and all the garbage that come out on that blog. we are your customers. tell us the truth. Woah...Brenda....calm down. I hear there are bunkers in Idaho where you can stockpile guns, ammo, and bombs to protect yourself from the evil corporations/government. You can go there....at least until the meds kick in...
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Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
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08-29-2007 09:49
From: Desmond Shang I just verified using a California driver's licence. Wasn't a big deal. Here's what many don't realise: they *already* have your data, and your info is all over the internet, available in microseconds. For obviously, how else can they verify it? This is a paid service I'm sure, but I just verified for free. I'm wondering what it's costing the Company to do this. Im sure they already have my rl detaisl somewhere. But they don't already have any data that links my rl details to this account.
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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08-29-2007 09:49
From: Midnight Paragon Woah...Brenda....calm down. I hear there are bunkers in Idaho where you can stockpile guns, ammo, and bombs to protect yourself from the evil corporations/government. You can go there....at least until the meds kick in... I have a vacation home there already. with a fully stocked bar.
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errUh Oh
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Join date: 1 Mar 2007
Posts: 233
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08-29-2007 09:49
From: Midnight Paragon Woah...Brenda....calm down. I hear there are bunkers in Idaho where you can stockpile guns, ammo, and bombs to protect yourself from the evil corporations/government. You can go there....at least until the meds kick in... what a jerk
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Atashi Toshihiko
Frequently Befuddled
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 1,423
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08-29-2007 09:50
Well I decided to give it a go... they've already got all the other info on me, and the last 4 digits of my SIN wouldn't do them any good.
Except it didn't work. It's not reassuring that when you select Canada as the country code, it doesn't appear to change anything to let them know you're verifying with Canadian documents. Province instead of State, Postal Code instead of Zip Code, and SIN instead of SSN. At any rate, it didn't work.
I don't have a valid passport, they can't have my DL # (although I would part with half the #, because half the # is worthless), and I don't know what the 'personal identification number' is.
Have any Canadians been verified successfully yet?
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
Join date: 6 Feb 2006
Posts: 841
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08-29-2007 09:50
From: Brenda Connolly I don't doubt they are taking action looking out for their business interests, that's perfectly logical. Just stop with the bullshit, "Protecting, the children". "creating atmosphere of trust" and all the garbage that come out on that blog. we are your customers. tell us the truth. Like many others, I do feel LL is covering their own asses here. They don't want to get shut down. I don't blame them. I feel safer now with my business that SL won't be getting shutdown due to these things, but I am STILL concerned that it is not going to be easy for SOME residents to prove that they are an adult. I'd be very unhappy to see my customers not be able to shop with me anymore over this since I have a feeling LL will eventually tell me my island will need to be opened only to verified customers.
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,735
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08-29-2007 09:50
Will restricted access land be affected? Currently my only "restricted" items are on my home parcel. If that parcel is set to a group that I control access to or is restricted to the access list, made up of people I know well enough to trust that they are 18+, then why should I be required to flag my land?
Hmmm it seems this system of flagging is gonna be like an ocean of ban lines for some people.
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Echo Dragonfly
Surely You Jest
Join date: 22 Aug 2004
Posts: 325
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08-29-2007 09:53
So as I understand it, it's a PER PARCEL flag?? Ok, a what if: 1: I own a shop or home in a mature sim, parcel not flagged as having adult content, no verification required. 2: Parcel next door, same sim, mature flagged, adult content in view, or can be cammed from my parcel. 3: Who catches the S**T if lil Johnny is on my parcel, but caught viewing the items in the flagged parcel??? Seems some things need to be worked out by LL before this can be really effective. I mean what is the use, if they can just cam over anyways?? Doesn't really protect either party does it?? 
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
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08-29-2007 09:54
From: Lisa Huet Try reading my post properly... a close family member has a medical condition which makes holidays abroad very difficult, in fact almost impossible. Besides, no offence to Americans but there are a ton of other places i'd rather go  I feel like a pile of turds (more than usual). My best wishes to your family member.
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
Join date: 6 Feb 2006
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08-29-2007 09:54
From: Echo Dragonfly So as I understand it, it's a PER PARCEL flag?? Ok, a what if: 1: I own a shop or home in a mature sim, parcel not flagged as having adult content, no verification required. 2: Parcel next door, same sim, mature flagged, adult content in view, or can be cammed from my parcel. 3: Who catches the S**T if lil Johnny is on my parcel, but caught viewing the items in the flagged parcel??? Seems some things need to be worked out by LL before this can be really effective. I mean what is the use, if they can just cam over anyways?? Doesn't really protect either party does it??  Good question. I own an island and no mainland parcels, so I don't have to worry about this, but this question DOES make me curious to know the answer.
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Kitty Barnett
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Join date: 10 May 2006
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08-29-2007 09:56
http://www.gridgrind.com/?p=179From: someone I got through it in 2 minutes making up totally false information. That didn't take long  .
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-29-2007 09:58
From: Sae Luan Good question. I own an island and no mainland parcels, so I don't have to worry about this, but this question DOES make me curious to know the answer. What makes you think islands are exempt? The only way to be sure is to not rent any of it out, and make it private access only.
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
Join date: 6 Feb 2006
Posts: 841
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08-29-2007 10:00
From: Cristalle Karami What makes you think islands are exempt? The only way to be sure is to not rent any of it out, and make it private access only. lmao because my island isn't parceled. And I never said my island wouldn't be adult access only or if it wouldn't be a G rated area. I'm just curious, as I said. Eh, to clarify and not sound like I'm trying to be rude... You can't stand on my island and look at sex stuff on another island beside mine. My island is a single land with no conneting islands. I dunno if nudity (in skin ads and such) will be adult. If i must mark adult, I must do it, but I won't have to worry about someone else's land affecting me.
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Midnight Paragon
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Join date: 26 Oct 2006
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08-29-2007 10:01
From: Brenda Connolly I have a vacation home there already. with a fully stocked bar.  In all seriousness, your private information is available everywhere. A couple of years ago I did an experiment with several members of my extended family: father, sister, daughter, uncle, cousin, and his wife. In 3 days....yes, 3 days, I had their current and past addresses, ss#, DL license info, loans, property data, and any outstanding credit information. All without breaking a single law (except maybe the "moral" ones). Did you know that some companies embed your ss# in the account # you have with them? It doesn't matter if you can't get it directly -- its exposed in other ways. SL isn't asking for all of that; the last 4 of the ss# won't get your identity stolen. It can already BE stolen. I'm all for the verification. I suspect there are many underage people on SL. I hope so, because they way some of them act, if they are not underage, they are really immature. 
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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08-29-2007 10:03
From: Wildefire Walcott I saw the link and successfully verified. Could it just be Concierge people at this time? Makes perfect sense to me. I'm sure that there are hordes of 16 year old land barons investing tens of thousands of dollars in SL. We'd better age verify that lot first.
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Midnight Paragon
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Join date: 26 Oct 2006
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08-29-2007 10:03
From: errUh Oh what a jerk Brilliant. Did you have to look all three of those words up in the dictionary?
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-29-2007 10:05
From: Sae Luan lmao because my island isn't parceled. And I never said my island wouldn't be adult access only or if it wouldn't be a G rated area. I'm just curious, as I said. Eh, to clarify and not sound like I'm trying to be rude... You can't stand on my island and look at sex stuff on another island beside mine. My island is a single land with no conneting islands. I dunno if nudity (in skin ads and such) will be adult. If i must mark adult, I must do it, but I won't have to worry about someone else's land affecting me. It applies to regions too. I wasn't imputing anything to you, just saying that owning an island doesn't make you exempt. Parceled or not.
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Tristin Mikazuki
Sarah Palin ROCKS!
Join date: 9 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,012
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08-29-2007 10:05
"I want to reiterate that identity verification is voluntary....."
MY ASS it is if you DONT you'll be out of most of SL GAWD can Linden Labs screw its customers over more... O WAIT yes they can lol ya should see whats comeing next LOL
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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08-29-2007 10:07
From: Midnight Paragon  In all seriousness, your private information is available everywhere. A couple of years ago I did an experiment with several members of my extended family: father, sister, daughter, uncle, cousin, and his wife. In 3 days....yes, 3 days, I had their current and past addresses, ss#, DL license info, loans, property data, and any outstanding credit information. All without breaking a single law (except maybe the "moral" ones). Did you know that some companies embed your ss# in the account # you have with them? It doesn't matter if you can't get it directly -- its exposed in other ways. SL isn't asking for all of that; the last 4 of the ss# won't get your identity stolen. It can already BE stolen. I'm all for the verification. I suspect there are many underage people on SL. I hope so, because they way some of them act, if they are not underage, they are really immature.  Yes, I'm sure. But I am not handing it out just to play what is still in essence to me a video game. And I do believe that in a reasonably short time, disclosure will be come to be expected, if not technically mandatory. I'm not here to run a business, start a relationship, or any such thing. I just come for a few hours of mindless entertainment, to get away from RL. It seems I throw RL out the window, and someone keeps throwing it back at me.
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Incanus Merlin
Not User Serviceable
Join date: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 583
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08-29-2007 10:08
According to the email I received this morning, it is concierge-level individuals only who are being "invited" to do age verification. Which I did and received my OK-ness in about 2 nanoseconds...... so now I'm wondering what *actually* happened when I pressed enter ....
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
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08-29-2007 10:08
LOL I used my last 4 and it failed. Maybe that's comforting, means that my last 4 isn't out there...
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Mac Soothsayer
Greymuzzle in RL also : )
Join date: 1 Nov 2005
Posts: 49
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08-29-2007 10:11
I agree with those who ask that LL be a bit more forthcoming with info on this third party system. Something that does not quite compute with me is..in Robin’s post it states ” Linden Lab will not be storing this data and nor will the third party verification specialist, Aristotle. ” Bringing up my question of…. for how long will they “not store” this information?…as Aristotle states in their privacy statement “This site gives users the following options for changing and modifying information previously provided:
E-mail to: [email]remove@aristotle.com[/email] ” If the information is not stored..how then can you go back later and change it? Just curious.
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Sae Luan
Hardcore 4the Headstrong
Join date: 6 Feb 2006
Posts: 841
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08-29-2007 10:11
From: Cristalle Karami It applies to regions too. I wasn't imputing anything to you, just saying that owning an island doesn't make you exempt. Parceled or not. Well, I'm unsure what you mean. He asked if someone is standing on one parcel that is G (or without offensive stuffs) and can cam over to an adult parcel, who would get in trouble and how that would play out. My island is a single island. It's not a cut piece of a bigger island where they are parceled. I own a full island with no parcels, so if I know my land is G and is marked as such, if someone comes onto my land and tries to look out across the great blue to see another island or parcel, they won't be able to! You can't see other land from my land at all. I have to only worry about my own island and not some other island floating beside mine.
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Midnight Paragon
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08-29-2007 10:12
From: Brenda Connolly Yes, I'm sure. But I am not handing it out just to play what is still in essence to me a video game. That's a good point. I think it really depends on your view of SL. As a resident who owns multiple islands and makes [at least] some profit in SL, I don't see it as a video game at all. My willingness to give up the information is greater because my experience has been different. A good lesson for LL.
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