Age Verification is here!!

Where?

I didnt hear this in a chorus.

Unless its someone running one of these questionable Investment schemes. Which are of dubious legality anyway.

Or the buying and selling of Private Islands between residents - But I think people would rather LL broker the deal, then add Identity verification.

1. Do not click on a link in your e-mail or from other websites
2. Type the address in your webbrowser yourself (https://www.secondlife.com)
3. Check if the ssl certificate is valid and matches the domain
(my bank often reminds me to do this for online banking)

When I was googling about phishing I also read something about "DNS pharming attacks", where the lookup of the address is faked. Usually done by virusses or mallware. Because I am using a Mac, a virusscanner and a firewall I am not too worried about that.

Meni

So as I read it, a resident either gives a driver's license, passport number or Social Security Number in order to be verified with the same third party group who had all this trouble directed towards them before. Seems to me that LL is as usually not reading anything posted by any of us. Communist state anyone?

I live in Canada, therefore I dont have a SSN, we call them Social Insurance Numbers (SIN) and I would rather log off SL for good then give that to them. Second, I dont drive, well not yet for personal reasons that are none of LL's business and thirdly, I dont have a passport...so uh where does that leave me? Not that I planned on verifying myself anyways...

I went through all the trouble of signing up, creating a paypal account and making sure it was sticked with my hard earned money to pay them each month, so I will continue my SL life until the restrictions get in the way then I will move on to something else.

I agree completely Brenda.

I mean, with all due respect, what the fucking fuck is this?!?

One of the key cornerstones of SL's community standards, the so-called "Big Six", has to do with disclosure. Specifically, noone is supposed to disclose RL information about anyone else without their prior consent. This is not such an uncommon principle for online communities -- in fact, it's often a primary basis for them.

Why the hell, then, is LL providing SL's residents with a tool that can be used to grief people into disclosing information about themselves?!? This has zilch, nothing, to do with age verification -- that can be managed simply by requiring CC info to be on file, which is the way virtually all other online providers do it. It has everything to do with the sloppy slide of SL away from a self-standing virtual world and towards an online procurement platform for material world economic exchanges. Shame on LL for supporting this development and moving so far away from the original vision for SL.

I, for one, will not be providing my DL to a third party for this purpose -- not at all. If people want to know whether they can trust me, they can do so the same way people do in the material world -- get to know me. What's next, LL? Will SL soon link into national credit report databases as well?!?

"Hey now, hey now
Dont dream its over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they wont win"

Or will they?

I'm new . . really new, payment info and credit card on file, not premium, no age thingie link.

Or will they.....

Look's like Dan's evil plan is taking root......

It's optional!


Chill!

No it isn't. The note they are sending around says that places will be restricted unless the typist has been "verified". That's not optional in the least.

For now *puts on a sweater*

Every single complaint along the lines of:
* "I banned a griefer, but they can just come back with an alt."
* "Someone stole my money, and now I have no recourse."
* "Someone is stealing my IP, but there is no name to sue."
* "Someone made a pickpocket / griefing / grey goo object but can't be blamed."
* "I have to sign a license to use an object, but the licenser is anonymous."

Has effectively implied that..

Placing the restriction isn't optional?

No.

Per LL:



Note the last sentence. It's not a voluntary program, unless you are willing to give away the ability to access anything on the grid.

GOOD !!

It's about time. I'll happily verify as soon as I can. Nobody under 18 should be on the adult grid. CC info does not verify age, my son has had Visa from age 13.

Concierge member - got the same link and e-mail. I have some concerns about privacy and ID theft given the vendor - but at this point I'm not giving them anything they don't already have.

The survey is a f'cking joke though - no place for comments or even feedback on IF we want verification or support the future "verified RL aspects" outlined in the e-mail. Typical bullsh*t from LL.

I'll support something to keep minors off the main grid if it will keep it free - so to speak - to the residents to decide what is appropriate.

I'll never support some version of Second Life requiring verification of all kinds of irrelevant facts about myself. Very interesting that LL says future verification stuff will be used to help residents establish trust in their relationships. How the hell are they going to do that. I don't care how old you are, where you live or anything like that - and it certainly doesn't help me trust you.

I build trust through my actions, and trust others through theirs.

I did it this morning and the information they asked for was not invasive in my opinion.
No issues, no errors. I still think though that the unverified accounts should be done away with if we are going to do this. If the whole point is to keep out those under 18 then good grief Lindens make everyone verify at some point.

I tried and it failed with both ids. I'm beginning to suspect I'm not who I think I am, lol.

OH no check your wallet immediately LOL

This is where things get distasterously dangerous IMHO..

What's been said is that they'll basically provide a way for you to pass on verified real life information to other people. So in other words, it'll be something like, you click on an avatar and give a "tell this persion my details" command, and they'll pop up in a specially formatted box that couldn't be produced by a script or an IM or anything else, that shows they're stored by and have been verified by LL. You may also have an option to put the details on your profile.

The reason why this is so dangerous is because it will be just like voice, but without any excuses this time, nor the option to create safe areas. If anyone doesn't use it, people will make the worst possible assumptions about that person.

Darn, I was able to do it by typing in the post office two letter abbreviation for my state rather than typing out the whole state name (I guess I missed the part where it specified that). And here I was hoping I was some unknown heir to a fortune....

Actually I dont agree

In most cases they want Linden Lab (who has the identity in some cases) to do something.

I do not believe majority of those complaining about what you are talking about do not wish to go after the person in real life directly.

Oh same here. As usual their page doesn't work. And they always give you the list of what you might have done wrong, I notice one possibility glaringly missing, and that is that their database can't match you because their database is incomplete and doesn't contain the information to match with!

yeah their original plan was that basically --- unless you want to live in a quasi-PG 13 world, You are going to have to verify.