Any Land Owners interested in a class action suit?

i'll go one better.
i'm callin chuck norris!!

omg talk about bad sl history lol

I actually bothered to read all ten of the previous pages. There is just one part of this I just don't get. If the OP wants to start a class action lawsuit against LL, why is he or she STILL PAYING THEM TIER? I can understand not wanting to throw people off their land, or not selling the sims out from under people. In my opinion, the OP really should do a phased shutdown of the business that would allow the tenants to find new places. If you really have a problem with LL, and really want to teach them a lesson, you really shouldn't be giving them more money.

Good point. It seems like they want to force a private company to do business their way. A customer can't force a company to do business their way. We signed up and were shown the rules. If we did not like the rules, no one said we had to stay.

So I guess it's like..."I'm not going anywhere LL, I am going to keep paying tier and paying island fees and you are gonna do things MY way or I will sue you!" ??? Does that sound right?

LOL

Indeed and first of all discount how many of them are no transfer hey.

i'm just curious is it that people are upset that they will take longer to get their initial investment back or is it that they think they will not get it back??
i know everyone that gets a sim is not out to make a profit with them..
but the ones that do profit? is it just a matter of taking longer that upsets them or that they think it won't happen now?

i know it took our family business 4 years to pay back the initial investment from our profits..
not counting other expenses that slowed it down..i mean is it the sale of the land that people wait for to get back their investment money or do they pull it out getting it back before the sale?
the point of investing is to make money..the first rule is to pay back the loan that you took out to get started is it not?

the loan can come from a bank loan or a from your actual savings account..

i guess what i am wondering is. is it that people that were making a profit looking at the sell of the land as a nest egg in a sense or as getting their initial investment back?because really any good gambler pulls out the money they walked in with soon as they match it and put it back in thier pocket and play with the winnings and never touch it again..soon as it dips back into the pocket it's time to fold and get up from the table..
is it dipping into the pockets or is it winnings are not as good as before?
i guess i am kind of lost in where the whole losing initial investment comes from that people keep speaking of.

You know, I've had some time to sleep on this, and: No.

Read most of this thread. Is Chilly a him or her -- I've seen both referencing Chilly. Any way... doesn't matter.

But um yeah... pretty much what everyone said.

I did/do invest in SL. I co own about 2 sims of land. We all decided when we bought that it was just expendable cash without a return on investment. It's a terrible way to look at it, but it's realistic given the nature of SL, LL, RL etc. And who knows, a year from now, land may be worth more. Who knows? Paying tier each month -- yeah, we're providing rentals to offset the tier, but we know one day we may have no renters and will have to make a hard decision.

As suggested above -- if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Threatening a lawsuit is... well, 3Ring and her espresso machine might've said it best.

Sucks to lose money but it happens every day and like McDonalds didn't force people to eat their crap food, LL is not forcing anyone to buy land or fake money.

Take responsibility. The world's a better place when you do.

PS: the quote, right. Lots of people play at owning land and renting it out -- not always intelligently or with devotion either. Profit is very rare when on the cutting edge, which we are. May happen, may not. It's not bad, but it's risky.

I have been here for most of what Chilly and You have seen in SL.

I am not flaming.

US law changed, gambling HAD to be banned. Done deal. SUcks for Chilly ut thats how it is. ALso anyone that was watching how things progressed HAD time to divest themselves of thier gambling interests prior to it getting banned. Like months of time from the passingof the law until it was banned in SL. If CHilly did not do this that is her/her business decision and no fault of LL.

LL reduced the cost of Land. Anyone can reduce the cost of THIER product whenever they like. No Law broken. Will it hurt alot of landowners (me included)? yep you betcha. does it suck to be us? yep again. Is it actionable in court? NO!

For the record this is about the 5th time I am gonna lose money on land because of an LL move. Don't see me screaming sue. I made the best decisions on investing I could at the time. I got unlucky. Done deal.

Yes LL lures people in with the POSSIBILITY of making money. They do not however GAURANTEE it will happen. The only way this becomes actionable is if its a bait and switch. There is no switch. They never PROMISE anything.

I AM one of the older posters on this forum. I DO remember the bad old days. AND I find myself resenting the heck out of people throwing thier weight around because of how old in game they are. IT is entirely possible to be in game 7 months and have some clue how it works. As in works NOW. How it worked inthe past is irrelevant. You cant put the genie back int he bottle. Those days are gone. Get over it.

Seriously....I love these forums

I don't think the Op has specified what exactly LL has done wrong that a good lawyer could "do something REAL" about. But she seems to be inviting us to give her money in return for a possible chance of getting something back. A new kind gambling?

Or... LOL, everyone can give me 25L, that's right, 25L and I'll send you a few cute (or something) neko pics of myself. You will actually get something in return! That's right!

*insert hysterical laughter*

OK... I need to cut back on my sugar intake.

3Ring, pass the espresso machine.

*waves* Hi Atom!

OP can't seriously think to sue a company for lowering their prices, surely! Sindy's right, this is silly.

I'm possibly about to end up in negative equity on my real life house - who can I sue?

Wow you edited out your statement about Sindy making the last sensible comment. Glad to see because there were alot of sensible comments made after that one.

Yeah, there were a whole load of people mocking the OP. I approve. I expected a whole load of emo's to come out of the woodwork and wail about how they lost money on a video game, like they usually do on this kind of thread. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

It's cool. I was confused when I was about to quote you and the quote didn't match the new text. I agree though usually those folks are quick to bash the people that provide the service they will no doubt continue using despite their apparent misgivings with the ToS.

The Marc Bragg lawsuit already demonstrated that a judge can, and will, override the TOS. I think it's unlikely that the lawsuit Chilly's proposing would be acceptable, but it isn't a foregone conclusion.

If such a lawsuit were to happen and be successful it would make a mockery of the very concept of justice. To reiterate - the OP wants to sue LL for lowering their prices. That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard since those fat girls tried to sue Macdonalds for them being fat. Moreso infact.

From what I was able to gather by reading about this it seems as though there was a settlement between the parties involved. Meaning that it never went the full length of a trial and the judge didn't override anything. Linden Labs chose to settle the dispute before it ever was allowed to go that far.

Refresh my memory; was Mark Bragg the scammer who dishonestly manipulated the land auction system to put land up for auction and then bid on it before any spotted it was being auctionned? If he got a judgement in his favour then it officially means the world has gone mad.

It happened to Apple.

I was right. The world really has gone mad.

How dare companies go around offering value for money to people, willy-nilly!!

i'm having issues understanding "apple" and "value" in the same thought maybe value does not mean what i think it means. i thought it ment something of worth

I was still talking about LL having lowered their prices. I struggle with the concept of apple and value too.