Any Land Owners interested in a class action suit?

I dont think in this case that there is any way you can sue someone because they changed the price tag of their sims. They are starting to bend to a new and opening market so although it would be funny it aint gonna happen. I have never heard of anyone even attempting to sue a company for changing its prices. There is no law to cover it there is no price control for virtual sims. They lowered their price to remain competitive. Anyhow although I respect chilly in this case its misguided to attempt to sue a company because they changed the price tag of sims you have not purchased. If they lowered the sim rental fees I bet everyone would be ecstatic, likewise if they raised the price tag for monthly rental fees everyone would want to sue them I guess. However they purchased their sims long ago in some case YEARS ago how anyone realistically thinks they can sue for the purchase of a server they already paid for and prices today changing is beyond me, but it doesn't take a lawyer to say that its a waste of time and money to try..

I'm sure if they find an unethical lawyer willing to take their money and loose they will get one but there is no way they are gonna find a lawyer who can win this.

It will be interesting to watch though..

if i was behind the close doors of LindenLab..(gets a faraway dreamy Napoleonic look in her eye)....but i'm not. i'm just as in the dark as you. all i care about is a stable grid. as for the different answers here, well its a forum. that happens. but i'm not seeing that, i'm seeing different forms of the same thing being said, with the exception of the casino thing.

yes we all agree there are soem things LL did that made us go WTF?!! but in THIS case. this is a good thing. be happy. night all

the real world is gonna look at this as computer service initial set up fee for building the thing (i have servers built and the same company changes the prices of their servers of which i buy new ones once and awhile every few years..) and that LL decided to lower prices in a market with a supply and demand. There is no law that says you can't change the price tag of your servers. Even in canada where we have price control of some things there is no law that would cover this. Now we are talking the USA world of the capitalist and the american dream where there is to my knowledge not one single example of price control and there i no price control for computers its not like a necessary item. Price control is usually put in place to keep prices in check and lower. I have never seen anyone want to sue a company for lowering the price of its product. (or maybe i just have amnesia and passed out from oxygen deprivation from laughing to hard over the last time or something..)

Read the original post. The OP wasn't merely discussing the recent price changes. LL has done many things over the past couple years that might not be completely kosher, IF TESTED IN A COURT OF LAW. Outside of that one case where someone used a bug in the sim auction system to get mainland sims for cheap, there really hasn't been a case that challenges LL's actions. I think that is why the OP on this thread is going to a lawyer.

Well chit that means I can take my 'LINDEN DOLLARS' and take ya all out on a spending spree!


And tell me why when I was hacked of over 120K lindens it wasnt treated as a theft it was treated as ...it's NOT real money so sorry for your luck.....in my state that much REAL MONEY stolen is a felony.

Yes but unfortunately for him and all of the other residents and business owners like myself, the LL ToS keeps them safe from these types of mishaps. You have no right to any gaurantee of service or that the service you do have will be functional and free from exploitation and bus. You're only recourse is to stop playing.

You can't sue someone for LOWERING the cost of its hardware set up. You purchased your sims ages ago they are yours when you leave you give them back to LL and they refurbish them and sell them again usually because its just set up fee for adding memory and replacing cpus etc which costs money. They charged what they could because they could now they are lowering the price tag for having a server built and set up for you to use. Even if this were a legal issue which it aint the only one that can stop someone from raising or lowering prices and control this is your federal government not a lawyer.

LL has made some really bone-headed moves the past few years and have distanced themselves quite a bit from the users of Second Life. But, there is nothing I can think of that they have done that could be seen as illegal. In fact anything that could present a legal problem for them (gambling, sexual age-play etc) they have been pretty quick to slam the door shut on. They know more then anything else how to cover their collective asses.

Can anyone name something illegal they have changed? Not moraly or integrity barren, but something court worthy?

WOW...we are all lawyers too! Hot Damn it appears to be all our lucky day!

You don't have to be a lawyer to read English. But for the record I always have my family's lawyer read contracts (reads ToS) before I invest any substantial amount of time and money into anything, including this game. So I am completely aware of what my rights and responsibilities are before I engage in any sort of investing.

But you seem to be PRO LLABS on this issue. But the facts are there is alot of missrepresetnted information they are telling people............Facts are LLABS hooks people in with a catch ( money ) and companies as well into believing they have a great procentage of a chance to make or extend their product reach...........

For someone that states to keep drama to themselves cause they just dont care.....sure looks like ya care to me.......your need to give out counseling on this particuliar topic looks like it's against your own TOS.

I don't see why I am pro Linden Labs because I feel that you have no cause for a lawsuit. It's plain, simple facts. When you signed up you agreed to the Terms of Service. the Terms of Service are a binding contract that you, the end user, agree to when you decide to subsrcibe to the service they provide by playing their game.

What I am is Pro Second Lifers. I would hate to see the entire project scrapped due to some lame attempt at a lawsuit that causes LL to shut the doors entirely out of lack of interest in persuing the project any longer. they certainly won't keep the doors open if they no longer think it's economically viable to do so. It's just common sense.

I could make the argument that anyone who sides with the OP is ensighting a needless panic and encouraging others to donate money to a lost cause lawsuit. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the ToS govern your implied 'rights' to anything at all. And in the Terms of Service is explicitly states that not only are your Linden dollars worth exactly NOTHING but that anything they decide to change, alter, copy or remove is completely at their discretion. No laws have been violated, and no contracts have been broken on their side, because the contract we all agreed to states that anything they do is simply how it goes and if you don't like it you don't have to play.

I never shy away from a good debate. And I don't see what drama I brought to the discussion. I guess if you call pointing out what should be to any reasonable person a logical follow through on flawed logic drama, well whatever.

the way your explaining it seems like you are.......

A debate?

You don't know half of what has gone on here in secondlife cause you weren't here to experience it so why try debating anything you NEVER were any part of....and you still have NO clue of the OP's intentions....after being here for 7 months you are a professional counselor but you have NOT lived any of the things the OP is talking about....

You Love Drama.....I can see that)

I see. So someone jumping on the forums and ranting about suing the project because they are unhappy with a decision that was made is NOT drama, but me jumping on here to point out all of the flaws in the logic is drama. Sounds to me like people just don't like to have their flawed logic pointed out to them if you ask me. You should never post something that will obviously cause controversy unless you are armed to support your point of view. That's the nature of debate.

I don't have to live through it to understand that the OP has no legal ground to stand on. It's that simple really. Just because you are a friend of Chilly's doesn't give you cause to discount my argument because you don't like it. I have a right to voice my opinions on here just as much as you do. The only difference is I am a bit politer about the entire thing and choose not to slam people who disagree with me. If you don't have anything to add to the debate then you don't really have a leg to stand on.

Pot == Kettle

None needs to arm themselves ..LL hands out free amo

You can't DEBATE what you know nothing about first hand!

When did I say anything about NOT liking drama?

So just because I wasn't around since all eternity means that I cannot read a document written in the English language which states that everything you have all been whining about in this thread is basically a legally mute point? You can be as pissed off as you like but that doesn't make it illegal. I'm not sure how many times you have to be told before you begin to understand that your FEELINGS on the issue are IRRELEVANT and no matter how many of you FEEL you have been WRONGED the fact is that LEGALLY there is no grounds for a lawsuit. It's that simple I don't know how else I can lay it out for you really.

And for the record, anyone who reads my blogs will understand that the Lindens are right up there on the top of my list of people to smack in the mouth but that doesn't mean I have a right to go sue them over it.

The frivolous lawsuit action LL may slap on the parties that would take this lawsuit may be the wake up call that convinces them.

OK Mrs Lawyer.....I'm not pissed at all...Im LMAO....you have NO idea of what all the complaints are and you really don't know what is legal or what is not ..now do ya?

and don't pull that rocket scientist stuff cause you really don't know TOS's are always full of loopholes....and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that