Any Land Owners interested in a class action suit?

I read what he wrote just fine.. Lowering of sim prices, following US federal laws by banning gambling, banning _unregulated_ banks, banning of extortionist ad farms, were some of the examples he gave.

These are _all_ laughable reasons to sue LL.

She can probably afford those events from all the people she ripped off at her casino.
from what i have heard she made a fortune from the casino so should be thanking LL for that instead of whining and wanting more of gamblers money,LOL. Hell she can probably afford GOOD attorney all by herself.greedy greedy greedy

Yes, we'd all be upset. That doesn't mean that it's anyone's fault. I'm potentially about to lose as much as 25% of the value of my real life home, if economic forecasts are correct. It's no one's fault though. It's called "the economy". The fact is, property values go up and down, and everyone knew this when they bought their land.



Whether Chilly made a profit or not has no relevence to the legal and moral principles applicable here.

I love how people resort to insults and name calling when they have nothing pertinent or intelligent to add to a conversation.

Agreed. Coupled with the fact that nothing you 'own' in the Linden Labs world is worth any real value it would seem to stifle the entire argument before it gets off the ground.

I stated that I was cracking up over a few making their own assumptions on the OP's intent and letting them know that they are clueless because their assumptions are incorrect is an insult or name calling? LOL


Maybe if some didn't try so hard to make them selves sound overly intelligent and above the idea that they might crave a lil bit of drama they might have realized what the meaning of the post was)

I also think most of you need to go back and read the beginning post where the OP had stated that there was a GROUP considering legal council and all the OP said was he was going to join the group, yada yada yada....thats what I call clueless!

well yeah your probably correct, but why are you making a drama out of it?

Yes it's namecalling instead of pointing out the misconceptions in the assumptions which would have been the intelligent thing to do. Simply saying someone is clueless doesn't provide any sort of details as to what you are talking about.



Well, I can't speak for others but I have no need to convince anyone of my intelligence I am perfectly confident in my ability to communicate effectively.



If you read back to any of my posts, which it's clear you haven't, you would understand that my statements are directed at the entire thread as a whole, and the individual points which were raised as the discussion continued. Just because the OP posts one thing in the beginning doesn't mean there won't be related discussion in the thread. That's the nature of debate.

My comment was directed at the fact that it seems to me most of your posts were designed to be hurtful and simply debasing. I, personally, see no reason an intelligent discussion cannot be had without insults and name calling, and that goes equally for those who took the time to bash Chilly. Name calling and insults never solve anything and only serve to close minds which is counter productive to a discussion about anything.

That's correct, but it doesn't mean that most of what's been said about the OP in this thread isn't applicable. He wants to sue LL. He doesn't know if there's anything to sue them over, but he wants to sue them anyway. Why? The probable reasons have been stated already, but they boil down to sour grapes.

I didn't need to provide any details it was all detailed in the OP'S post

I've read em all ...so why try to insult me?...now my head is starting to spin.LOL

I know where ur so called 'debates' were heading

Trust me I know the intent of the OP..I spend every single day with him and you are so off base....so maybe it isnt such a good idea to make ur own assumption's and open another can of worms at his expense.

That's interesting because I'm not even sure WE know where this debate is heading. I wasn't insulting you sweetie I was merely pointing out that (so far) everything I have seen you post has had a sarcastic and hurtful tone to it. That's not an insult it's an opinion I have formed based on observation. It would have been insulting if I have called you clueless or otherwise and then proceeded to laugh hysterically at what you had said.

Hear , hear... I don't know the OP, but seems to me sending donations to a lawsuit fund in SL.... well, how do you spell misappropriation???

I would certainly advise anyone considering this to make sure they are paying RL $ to a reputable attorney's escrow account if you want some reasonable assurance your money will be spent the way you intend.

Well his intention's might differ from what he posted but the post clearly states that he has a list of greivances which are not listed in the OP but INCLUDE the recent land price issue and that he is going to support this issue himself. So it would seem that Phil's post if just about dead accurate when compared to the OP.






Reading these two excerpts, the first one from the OP and the second from Phil, which you comment on in your post, it would seem to me that Phil's summarization of the OP is accurate. Maybe I am wrong. I guess if the OP's intentions were not what he posted that I am totally confused as to what the entire thread is about.

OMG...LOL....you have an answer to everything....Ill be sure to contact you if there is ever anything at all that just does not seem right to me...cause you can even read the OP'S mind..I think you all know more of his intent than he does.....I can't waste anymore energy on this stuff cause now I am starting to laugh uncontrollably.

Again you continue to make insulting comments and sarcastically explain all of this away like we are clueless, yet I have posted in plan English above the statements made by the OP and yet you continue to insist that his original post is not his intention. I guess if the intention wasn't the one that he stated then maybe he should have posted his real intentions, as obviously if he didn't mean what he said it must have been posted to stir an argument? I can only speculate there.

Now here is a reasonable person I can get behind that has an acceptable solution to an issue that he clearly states, in addition to outlining his intentions. Well let's hope so anyhow I guess he might not intend to mean what he writes either... who knows.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/9736-protest-march-screwed-lindenlabs-inc.html

Maybe that's your intention is to attempt to belittle and anger me to the point where I stoop down to your level where things that are in black and white become grey and everyone becomes a target for insults and name calling. If that's the case you are on a fruitless mission because, as I said to you previously, I am so far from angry it's laughable and I consider threads like these to be a great exercise of my debating skills.

It would be nice if there was some form of debate form the other side, however, instead of just slamming the door while yelling about how clueless we are. Maybe it would be a good idea for the OP to jump on and clarify his intentions, but I can see he bailed out early in the discussion when it became apparent we weren't all going to grab a torch and head for the town square to join the lynch mob that's forming there.

sure took you a long time to get to the very same place we were after reading the very first post in this thread from you.... errrr.. i mean the OP..... or, errrr.... aren't you really one in the same?

Just do everyone a favor and follow through. The naysayers will thank you later.

good luck!

Supposing everyone got together and DID manage to SOMEHOW sue LL for anything, I'm certain we won't be thanking the OP for contributing to the demise of something we all enjoy so much.

There's nothing to sue LL over regarding the price change. It's their ball of wax. If they wanna charge US$1,000,000 per person for it, or if they want to give it all away for free, that is ENTIRELY THEIR RIGHT.

The only chance you have for a suit is if you entered into a contract with LL which had a clause stipulating that they would never change the price of sims. Can you produce such a contract? If not, siddown and shut yer trap about lawsuits.

Here's your REAL options if you don't LIKE what they did:

1) Bend over and take it up the tailpipe like everyone else.
2) Cash out and go someplace else.

Complaining is optional in either case, but let's not kid ourselves that there is ANY legal leg for anyone to stand on contrary to what LL can and did do.

There are better ways to dispose of your money than giving money to this group to fund legal research into the viability of a class action lawsuit based on what the OP has posted. For example you could put it in a sack, tie it up and throw it over the side of a bridge.

The whole thing is either a joke or reeks of impropriety. It's unwieldy and highly questionable to approach the establishment of a possible class action in this manner. If this fund is to be considered legitimate, it minimally is going to need to engage attorneys just to draft an escrow agreement governing how funds will be held and disbursed and to act as escrow agent. No one should donate a single dollar to this group unless it presents such an escrow agreement signed by a reputable law firm or bonded financial institution as escrow agent. Of course you better make sure you understand all the provisions in that escrow agreement too which means you might want to hire a lawyer of your own to explain it to you. See how this is becoming unwieldy?

Additionally unless you are a landowner don't even bother. Under U.S. law, the questions of fact and law in a class action must be common to all members of the class. Looking at a hodgpodge of perceived, alleged wrongful acts by Linden Lab is counterproductive to researching the viability of any class action effort.

On the other hand maybe LL will wake up and stop griefing the residents with haphazard changes costing them real money.

griefing is a bti strong a word I think but I do uinderstand the sentiment.

I stopped hoping for anythng like that years ago. The fact is its thier world we either stay and play in it or we dont. All a lawsuit is likely to achive is cause some bad publicity and financial strain on LL which MIGHT or MIGHT NOT shut it down.

I don't see a lawsuit in any of the changes over the years. I really don't. But I aint a lawyer.

Are you joking? That assumes they'd win.
Go ahead and sue, waste your money. We will thank you... for the laughs.