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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-20-2008 17:30
From: Love Hastings
<More obviously over-emotional erroneous opinions - in a numerical list, yet!>
Do you have anything new in the way of unfounded opinion to offer, as I am sure everyone is bored with your inane repetition by now?

Pep (Or are you going to continue being "done" in a new and adventurous reinterpretation of the word?)
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Love Hastings
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12-20-2008 17:33
From: Pserendipity Daniels
unfounded opinion


Saying a thing doesn't make it true. Anyhow, I'm done, and I suspect you are up past your bedtime, so that is indeed enough.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-20-2008 17:34
From: Love Hastings
Saying a thing doesn't make it true.
Thank you for agreeing with my point.

Pep (Couldn't have said it better myself)
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Talarus Luan
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12-20-2008 18:11
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I feel flattered, if slightly bemused, that someone who is not really affected by my posts takes time to respond.


It's only a few minutes, and it'll pass, so don't let it go to your head. :)

From: someone
You make similar mistakes to Love, of course, and some which are your own, including a failure to comprehend that it was *your own words* which suggested that the unintelligent should not be using the forums. Perhaps you should read them again and, once illuminated, berate yourself for your stance.


Talk about lack of reading comprehension. :rolleyes: TRY going back and showing me where I suggested any such stupidity.

From: someone
Pep (I don't criticise people for a lack of intelligence; find me an example if you can)


Oh, please. Let's have a look:

From: Pep
but contrary to popular opinion, I don't feel the need to troll everyone I disagree with.

Pep (Just the dumb ones)


Judgmental, critical, of? "dumb ones"

Then there's the 11-point diatribe on your supposed entire raison d'être for posting. Distilled down, it's mainly "to berate, belittle, browbeat those I deem 'dumb' in order to (haha) 'improve' them".

Yes, I can see how your approach works wonders with most people you've treated as being in the "dumb" category.
Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-20-2008 18:15
From: Love Hastings
That's usually where the sarcasm and/or poor assumptions are. That's why.


I do not see it that way, I see it as an afterthought

it is all how it is interpreted
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They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Love Hastings
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12-20-2008 18:15
From: Talarus Luan

Then there's the 11-point diatribe on your supposed entire raison d'être for posting. Distilled down, it's mainly "to berate, belittle, browbeat those I deem 'dumb' in order to (haha) 'improve' them".


In case it disappears (his posts have been known to spontaneously combust for some reason), here it is quoted:

/327/cf/298062/16.html#post2261733

You see Pep, I am not making stuff up about you. These are your own words.
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Love Hastings
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12-20-2008 18:17
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
I do not see it that way, I see it as an afterthought

it is all how it is interpreted


Quite often it's the punchline. Like ";(Just the dumb ones)".
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12-20-2008 18:20
From: Love Hastings
Quite often it's the punchline. Like ";(Just the dumb ones)".



don;t know why you just do not ignore him if it bothers you so much

if you do not reply then he has nothing to reply to...

or is it that you both want to get the last word in?

I know how that feels, been there, done that, decided that it is not worth the stress

so now if I see something someone says that I dislike, most of the time I just ignore it

sure there are times I will reply... we are all human after all heh

but to keep it going like you two have is just not healthy
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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. :)


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Cael Merryman
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12-20-2008 18:22
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
don;t know why you just do not ignore him if it bothers you so much

if you do not reply then he has nothing to reply to...

or is it that you both want to get the last word in?

I know how that feels, been there, done that, decided that it is not worth the stress

so now if I see something someone says that I dislike, most of the time I just ignore it

sure there are times I will reply... we are all human after all heh

but to keep it going like you two have is just not healthy


But just so Rha doesn't have the last word.
Talarus Luan
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12-20-2008 18:25
From: Love Hastings
In case it disappears (his posts have been known to spontaneously combust for some reason), here it is quoted:

/327/cf/298062/16.html#post2261733/327/cf/298062/16.html#post2261733

You see Pep, I am not making stuff up about you. These are your own words.


Well, he does have a rather "structured" view of his interaction with others. Maybe he also has the wherewithal to live by his own rules from the "other" end.

I doubt it, though; empathy doesn't seem to be his long suit. :-/
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12-20-2008 18:25
From: Cael Merryman
But just so Rha doesn't have the last word.


Mine!
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12-20-2008 19:29
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Shall we find out?

But beforehand, I should explain that I have been using this style for over fifteen years in bulletin boards and forums, although I am not a ghost . . . although I have known people copy it - which I consider flattery. It began when, for various reasons - line speed, software inadequacies etc - I could not effectively edit the main body of the post but I wanted to add something I later thought of. I also use "slashies" when I am not posting as Pep, a similar style borrowed from a very poular news aggregation site whose name always eludes me, but sounds vaguely rude.
I like how you have copied a bit of my style here - just putting a dash between phrases.

/me is flattered
:)


and if you are not copying and flattering me, just pretend you are
:D
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12-20-2008 19:33
From: Cael Merryman
But just so Rha doesn't have the last word.
LOL - this place cracks me up.
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Baloo Uriza
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12-20-2008 20:25
From: Desmond Shang
I think the modern interest in furs could only have stemmed from people being bombarded with thousands of hours of suggestive images, and deep acculturisation during a youthful, formative time.


That wrongly assumes that the only motivation for being a furry is sexual. Every fandom has their lunatic fringe, furries aren't any exception.
Baloo Uriza
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12-20-2008 20:28
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Paedophilia involves actual children. Everyone here is over 18.

Pep (or should be assumed as such)


Until you have to age verify to get an account, everyone here is not necessarily over 18. Until there's widespread cases of cats walking on keyboards logging into second life, it's pretty safe to assume everyone here is human.
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12-20-2008 20:30
From: Avawyn Muircastle
Sign up for SL is free. I don't recall any disclaimer that must be 18 or over to sign up and start SL? Is there one?


Yes, it's in the terms of service. Don't you read what you're legally agreeing to?
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12-20-2008 20:41
From: Baloo Uriza
Until you have to age verify to get an account, everyone here is not necessarily over 18.
Even then, there will be no guarantee -- too many of the kids have figured out how to get around just about anything on the internet.



From: Baloo Uriza
Until there's widespread cases of cats walking on keyboards logging into second life, it's pretty safe to assume everyone here is human.

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12-20-2008 20:50
I think there should be a furry on the banner. They are definitely one in 5 users. Not that that's a good or bad thing.

As for the OP's question: I wouldn't be interested in SL sex in general, and much less with mascot-esque avatars. I mean, the meshes are really crude anyway (I am by no means trying to offend the creators, I think they do a great job), maybe later down the road when games are able to handle the higher graphics, I might change my mind, but I'm a bit of a prude. D: I do, however, have many furry friends and human friends :3 They're all people behind the mask.
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12-20-2008 23:38
From: Talarus Luan
I don't find your posts annoying, personally. In fact, I find it hard to categorize any significant emotional response to them at all. Well, beyond pity, I suppose, but I can't say for sure *I* feel it.

I disagree with your claims not to "instigate". In most threads I see you post in, you post SOLELY to instigate, and usually, it falls well into the realm of the "universally accepted" definition of trolling (that even you, yourself, posted, to boot). Off-topic, inflammatory, and quite inane. The "Resident Answers" excuse is rather poor attempt at a (very) flat dodge.



That's true, you said:



My only mistake was giving you more credit than necessary. Still, the point stands, if corrected. Quite a use of POSTGRADUATE work from Cambridge. I am sure you make your family proud. :rolleyes:

As for the "redundancy", you yourself said "the real one, not the upstart", so I sallied forth on your own "redundancy".



Unintelligent people don't spend time in forums, because there are precious few of them, and they have a hard time feeding themselves, let alone operating computers.

As for those whom "Pep" Daniels considers unintelligent, well, I can't say, since that probably comprises the bulk of humanity outside of him (I presume you're a "him"; please do correct me if I am wrong, and then follow it up with your dissertation on the proper use of English pronouns to represent gender-neutral references). Plus, chances are, I am included in that group as well, so why would my "unintelligent" opinion mean anything to you?

I find the vast majority of people present in forums intelligent and worth listening to. Not everyone communicates perfectly, even in the best and most formal of situations (no, really!), so I can be mostly forgiving of faux pas, slip ups, and other mistypes/misspeaks. Sometimes I do press people on stuff they say, offering corrections or simply rebuttals or outright refutations. That's part and parcel of communicating. However, I would NEVER deign to use it as a litmus for judgment of that person's personality, let alone their intelligence. It's an awful small statistical sample to use for either. However, if that's all the evidence you need to become the Great Judge of Intelligence, by all means, please carry on.


marry me?

eta: if You are the Baloo i think you are *HUGSZZ*

if not, take the hug anyway.
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12-21-2008 02:32
From: Maggie McArdle
marry me?

eta: if You are the Baloo i think you are *HUGSZZ*

if not, take the hug anyway.


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Asha Sweetwater
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12-21-2008 03:02
From: Jig Chippewa

And, I'll ask the question that is on some of our minds - is it legal/illegal, morally okay or immoral to have sex with a myth-creature liek a minotaur or centaur? And ONLY in sl can you ask that kinda question!


You dont have to worry about explaining yourself in court....

imogen
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-21-2008 03:07
From: Talarus Luan
Talk about lack of reading comprehension.
I do, and it is a critical element of my comments here, since many (you being a good example) appear too "dumb" (see below) to read accurately.

From: Talarus Luan
TRY going back and showing me where I suggested any such stupidity.
Here you go . . .

From: Talarus Luan
What is particularly amazing is that someone who's done "postdoctoral work" in IT at *the* Cambridge University in the UK has this kind of time to spend trolling forums.
The logical implication of your statement is that only people who have not extended their education should post in these forums - ignoring your other little errors in that quote, which I have pointed out already. So there's your own stupidity you asked to be shown.

From: Talarus Luan
Judgmental, critical, of? "dumb ones"
So where have I referred to intelligence, which is what I asked you to point out? I am extremely careful about my choice of words, which sometimes seems rather pointless in the face of the lack of care with which they are read, as you exemplify. "Dumb" is not a function of intelligence, as I have indicated elsewhere; it has more to do with posters allowing laziness, or lack of concentration or even respect, to prevent them from comprehending or presenting arguments here. I say again, find me a post of mine where I comment on intelligence. Waste your time, not mine.

From: Talarus Luan
Then there's the 11-point diatribe on your supposed entire raison d'être for posting. Distilled down, it's mainly "to berate, belittle, browbeat those I deem 'dumb' in order to (haha) 'improve' them".
If you read it carefully (yes, yet again you are guilty of inadequacy in that area) you will see that it does not profess to be an "entire raison d'être", merely an indication of *some* of my rationale for elements of my posting approach. You are entitled to express your opinion, albeit as an emotionally (and ungrammmatically) worded summary, of course, but did you have a similar problem with your teachers in school commenting on and correcting your errors? Is that where your paranoia began perhaps?

From: Talarus Luan
Yes, I can see how your approach works wonders with most people you've treated as being in the "dumb" category.
"Most" people don't have the problems with my approach; many seem to be taking more care in reading and posting, to the benefit of the forums; some have expressed a degree of support for my style; a few (those who appear to over-react emotionally to demonstrably accurate criticism) do seem to have problems. I suppose it depends whether you take my criticisms of posts (which is what they are) as personal criticisms of the person behind the posts. My comments are not intended as such; I think it is ludicrous that anyone should get upset as a consequence, although it appears evident that some do.

Pep (It's not enough to mean what you say; you have to say what you mean)
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-21-2008 03:18
From: LittleMe Jewell
I like how you have copied a bit of my style here - just putting a dash between phrases.

/me is flattered
:)


and if you are not copying and flattering me, just pretend you are
:D
OK, I will admit it. Because I did not want to confuse Rha by putting parentheses in the middle of the post where I said I would not post a parenthetical postscript, I searched the entire forum for an alternative way to express a subsidiary comment, and the way you did it - with dashes - appeared most elegant.

Pep (Feel free to use parentheses wherever and whenever you like of course; I tried to patent the style, but apparently there is prior art - some guy called Shakespeare)
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-21-2008 03:34
From: Talarus Luan
Well, he does have a rather "structured" view of his interaction with others. Maybe he also has the wherewithal to live by his own rules from the "other" end.
Sounds like a grudging concession to me. Well done for reading the post, though!

From: Talarus Luan
I doubt it, though; empathy doesn't seem to be his long suit. :-/
Oh dear! Once again you have expressed yourself badly.
From: Wikipedia
Empathy is the capacity to recognize or understand another's state of mind or emotion. It is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself.

Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, or empathic concern

because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior.
. . . or any behaviour in the spectrum from one extreme to the other. Do you really think I do what I do accidentally? As quite a few of my online friends would confirm (if they could be bothered) I apparently exhibit an astonishing degree of empathy; I even joke about having "electronic empathy".

Of course, you might mean something completely different.

Pep (NLP helps too)
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12-21-2008 04:55
From: Pserendipity Daniels
"Most" people don't have the problems with my approach
Just because most of the people you interact with know how to give as well as they get, that doesn't mean you're not an ass.
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