A Sad Day.........

Hey that's a really good point. Mainland IS basically LL's estate, and they can do with it what they want to, just like individual estate owners can make their own rules. I hadn't thought of it that way... thanks Des, for a new POV.

Oh, and Isablan, I'm sending you a nice warm comforter to snuggle in at your computer. Being sick stinks.

Exactly.

And all these cries that we are going to bog Linden down. Have we heard that from the Lindens? No, we haven't had we. Of course not. They knew this was coming. They knew how outraged the community was. I'm sure they also learned after the banning of gambling that it will quiet down quickly.

If it's getting too much for the Lindens, they'll post a blog and ask us to settle down. Until then those of you asking people to chill need to chill.

It was funny Colette.

I haven't read the whole thread. Has anyone played the "First they came for the ad farmers, and I did nothing, because I am not an ad farmer..." card yet?

Nope

That one is scheduled for 2 protest threads from now.

We still need to do the:

"How come they outlawed Ad farms, but not virtual prostitution?" next.

No, but I did get away with totally plagiarizing a quote I found on the internet about some dude named Thomas More and some book he wrote.

LOL I figured you had read the book and had a comment.

I hadn't read (the translation) since 1989 so .. lol .. I only remember the gist of it.

/me pictures Mr. Norse comfortably settled in his chair, gleefully chuckling away at everyone as he quietly keeps out of the fracas he has started...

LOL. It's pretty amazing we've gone this far without it. Thanks for the laugh.

I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddlesome kids...

Scooby Doo quotes are more my forte.

I'll pay you L$1,000 if you let me watch you drink it straight from the jug and lift it all the way up. The milk spilling out and flowing across your lips, down your chin and splattering over your ...


ummm, excuse me. What were we supposed to be talking about?

I'm ready to whip off my pants in salute if it happens

All of us approve of some concept of "land rights".
Some of us have a concept of "land responsibilities" that go along with that.
Some of us might consider that "land rights" means that "the people" have a right to all of the land.

"land rights" can mean anything you want it to mean.
Saying that someone approves of "land rights" is pretty meaningless.

If "land rights" means to you that you can do absolutely anything you want on your own land, then you are ok with Ad Farms.
If you are not ok with Ad Farms, then your concept of "land rights" contains subtleties.

Wow. Someone else who uses "hyperbolic" in a most appropriate way. <3

I don't think that is the case at all. The vast majority of ARs being issued right now are against a double-handful of people who have literally been asking for a kick in the pants for a LONG time now. OK, so now they are getting EXACTLY what they've been asking for. For those folks, there is no worry about "grey area". LL can feel free to act with impunity against them, and close out swaths of ARs in one go.

The rest are still violating the letter or maybe even the spirit of the rule. That leaves LL to decide which side of any "grey area" they land on, and act accordingly.

In the end, an AR is just an AR. It's a request to deal with what a resident perceives as a problem. It's just a "hey come look at this! Is this against the rules or what?". If it really isn't a problem, then I hope they take the time to explain to the resident why it isn't a problem, and then move on to the next report.

Hehehe. Good one!

I think it rates its own special solo rendition of "My Heart Bleeds for Thee" on my World's Smallest Violin! Ooops... I broke it! Damn...

Don't tempt me.

Well put Brenda. I agree as well. While I hope cooler heads prevail, judging by the antics in this thread, that probably won't be the case.

It doesn't take any kind of statement other than the obviousness itself to figure that a tall, yellow-on-black spinning tower of prims on a 16sqm plot set for sale at L$9451 is anything other than an intent to extort and thus run WAY afoul of the new rule.



I don't know anyone who is ARing "ugly builds", or anything which isn't clearly violating the rule. I know of a lot of folks who are not even ARing the most obvious and glaring ones that ARE violating the rule. One example: last night, Mr. Now-Grassy-Spinning-Cubes bought a huge plot in Castaneae, chopped out the corner 16s and a 16 hole in the middle, set the prices for all the 16s to L$500,000 each, then put the remaining plot back up for sale for less than market value. It sold to a nice lady almost instantly after he left. When I arrived, she was putting up a prim "fence" around his donut hole in her land. I told her that she should AR him; she said she didn't want to be "harsh" and wanted to give him a chance to be nice and remove his spinning crap. I educated her a bit about him and offered to AR him for her. In the end, despite her misgivings, I did so, because it was a clear-cut case of abuse.

I estimate that the signal-to-noise ratio is probably close to 99:1. There are SO MANY cases of real abuse, that any "grey area" ones or improper reports are probably a VERY tiny percentage. Now, once the major problem children are gone, the worry that people will continue to AR stuff which isn't even remotely in the "grey area" will probably be more founded, but by then, the tidal wave of EXTREMELY legitimate ARs will have passed, and the Lindens will be able to give more care to sorting them out (as if they weren't giving a care already, which I figure they are; this situation isn't exactly a complicated one).

There are still plenty of passive extortionists out there, and I figure one or two of the big adfarm extortionists will retire back to the shadows of using their techniques.



Yet, that isn't what is happening. The "angry mob" isn't removing ads, issuing warnings, suspending accounts, etc. It can't even realistically be described as a "torch-and-pitchfork" "witch-hunting" "tar-and-feathering" "burning at the stake" "mob mentality", because the "mob" isn't in control of what is happening. All the mob can do is aim the gun and (perhaps *strongly*) suggest shooting; they can't pull the trigger. That power and authority still rests SOLELY with the Lindens.

This thread made me curious enough that I've flown around the mainland to have a look at some of the worst Ad farms that are closest to me. Here's what I found:

1. Most of the ads have taken themselves off the market for sale. I'd presume this was a quick reaction until they decide what they are going to do.

2. I checked the profiles of some the Ad Farmers and many of them have stated to please allow them time to resolve the situation so they can comply with LL's new policy.

3. So far U.H. is the only one I've seen who has changed his profile to basically say something of the nature of "stick it up your a**". No big surprise there.

I don't know what, if anything, any of this has to do with the OP's original question. I just found it interesting. It looks to me like things are already ironing themselves out. Things will settle down quick enough. The massive AR witch hunts will soon quiet down and we can all go on bitching about something new and different.

Do ya get the feelin' he's deliberately tryin' to push the limits? Do you suppose he might wanna be the next Bragg, or is he willing to push this as long as he can?

Mari

WOW!!! So beautifully put. Even in my last post I made the mistake of using the term witch hunt.

Remember when Coca Cola changed to just Coke? The public was outraged and they had to change it back. It's merely the consumer telling a company what they want. That's all this is. A company can choose to ignore the consumer all it wants, but they'd be damned stupid if they did. In this case LL made the smart decision.

I think he's trying to be both. He's trying to get the last dime out of it he can before he's locked out and then I have no doubt he'll head straight to his lawyers.

Hmm I don't remember that

I remember the protest being against the change from the old coke to "New Coke"

Yeah, that was what I was referring to. Same thing. They took Coca Cola off the name and changed it to New Coke. Sorry. Later they did change it to Coke on the label but supposedly left the ingredients the same.