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Debra Himmel
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11-03-2009 00:55
Should forum members be allow to quote other members with words they never actually wrote in a post and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it" below the quote?


Posts from the following members will never be replied to as they are on my ignore list:

Qie Niangao
Pixieplumb Flanagan
Phil Deakins
Laurin Sorbet
Kira Cuddihy
Katheryne Helendale
Innula Zenovka
Chris Norse
Brenda Connolly
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11-03-2009 00:58
From: Debra Himmel
Forum members should be allow to quote other members with words they never actually wrote in a post and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it" below the quote?


Clearly!!
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Nika Talaj
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11-03-2009 00:58
It's an internet meme. You will have to rehabilitate half the BBs and forums on teh interwebz if you want to cleanse such posts from your screen.

Alternatively, you could simply ignore all communication that you don't like. That practice makes for a happier SL in general.
Pserendipity Daniels
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11-03-2009 01:50
From: Lizard Himmel
Should forum members be allow to quote Debra Himmel with words she never actually wrote in a post - but make considerably more sense - and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it for ya" below the quote?
Fixed it for ya!

Pep (Self-referential.)
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TundraFire Nightfire
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11-03-2009 01:55
From: Debra Himmel
...Posts from the following members will never be replied to as they are on my ignore list:

Qie Niangao
Pixieplumb Flanagan
Phil Deakins
Laurin Sorbet
Kira Cuddihy
Katheryne Helendale
Innula Zenovka
Chris Norse
Brenda Connolly


Please add me to your ignore list. I would consider it an honor to be listed with the above. I'll return the favor by muting you inworld.

FIXED!
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11-03-2009 01:57
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Fixed it for ya!

Pep (Self-referential.)


Why ain't ya on dat lists, Pep?
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Laurin Sorbet
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11-03-2009 02:26
At least she spelled my name right :rolleyes:

Unfortunately she is easily confused. I never once used the quote function to change anything she said and then added 'fixed'.

I made references to lizards and David Icke. Thankfully, that was enough to get me on ignore, yay! Neener neerer, Veritable!
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11-03-2009 02:34
Should it be allowed? :/ ... lighten up!

The reference to having "fixed it" is an admission that the 'quote' is inaccurate and doctored for effect/drama/LOLz.

It is yet another step removed from a paraphrase. Paraphrasal retains the original meaning while adjusting semantics for the current context. "I fixed it" has intentions which are understood in internet contex by the reader ranging from "this is what he SHOULD HAVE said" to "bastige lied, and THIS is the real truth" to "Ima pull his strings. watch me make him hopping mad, this is a pet peeve of his" ... that kinda thing.

If someone referenced an intentionally doctored quote WITHOUT specifying that they "fixed it" then it would be a whole different issue. That's called a "lie".

(If you're good at those and apply them in Big Brother-approved ways you can get very lucrative work in the Television or Newpaper industries)
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Pserendipity Daniels
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11-03-2009 02:35
From: TundraFire Nightfire
Why ain't ya on dat lists, Pep?
Maybe she's an ESLer who can't understand logical English, whether it's good argument or insults. ;)

Pep (I'll have to start channelling Jumpy, perhaps.)

PS For a good example, Drivin, look at one of Love's posts in the Undying Thread yesterday; jeez, people don't understand how to play this game properly, do they! :rolleyes:
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Katheryne Helendale
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11-03-2009 04:04
From: TundraFire Nightfire
Why ain't ya on dat lists, Pep?

I dunno... Pep's been rather soft lately! *giggles and runs like hell*
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11-03-2009 04:34
From: Debra Himmel
Should forum members be allow to quote other members with words they never actually wrote in a post and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it" below the quote?
Yes. It's stupid and childish, but if people weren't allowed to do stupid and childish things the internet would be a lonely place.
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Fox Marchant
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11-03-2009 04:37
I don't know how to cut and paste convos like you all do anyways...so not guilty :)
Melanya Altney
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11-03-2009 04:38
From: Debra Himmel
Forum members should be allow to quote other members with words they never actually wrote in a post and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it" below the quote, especially if it makes it funny.


Well done, Debra, good to see you're able to accept you were wrong and play properly.
Innula Zenovka
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11-03-2009 04:47
What got me the ignore list was saying, of her demands for proof of Laurin's medical history,
From: someone
That's a bit rich, coming from someone who first got us started on all this because she's either unwilling or unable to prove to LL that she's over 18 for fear, she says, the NSA would get hold of her details (anyone wondering what this is all about, see /327/e6/343495/1.html#post2583809 and following).
Pserendipity Daniels
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11-03-2009 04:54
From: Katheryne Helendale
I dunno... Pep's been rather soft lately! *giggles and runs like hell*
I'm seeing the doctor about it next week.

Pep (Ah! You didn't mean that, did you?)
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Laurin Sorbet
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11-03-2009 04:58
From: Innula Zenovka
What got me the ignore list was saying, of her demands for proof of Laurin's medical history,


I couldn't figure out if she wanted proof I had been immunized, had never had the diseases or proof that I wasn't autistic :eek:

And then I decided it didn't matter what she wanted anyway :D
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11-03-2009 06:17
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Rhonda Huntress
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11-03-2009 06:31
From: Debra Himmel
Posts from the following members will never be replied to as they are on my ignore list:

Rhonda Huntress

Fixed it for you.
Lear Cale
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11-03-2009 06:52
From: Drivin Sideways
Should it be allowed? :/ ... lighten up!

The reference to having "fixed it" is an admission that the 'quote' is inaccurate and doctored for effect/drama/LOLz.

It is yet another step removed from a paraphrase. Paraphrasal retains the original meaning while adjusting semantics for the current context. "I fixed it" has intentions which are understood in internet contex by the reader ranging from "this is what he SHOULD HAVE said" to "bastige lied, and THIS is the real truth" to "Ima pull his strings. watch me make him hopping mad, this is a pet peeve of his" ... that kinda thing.

If someone referenced an intentionally doctored quote WITHOUT specifying that they "fixed it" then it would be a whole different issue. That's called a "lie".

(If you're good at those and apply them in Big Brother-approved ways you can get very lucrative work in the Television or Newpaper industries)
This.

Debra, "fixed it" is just a joke. I hope you understand now that when folks are doing this, they're not actually attributing the quoted words to you. I see no problem with the practice.

I wish people wouldn't make intentionally mean posts, but I doubt I'll have luck with that. I wish I could say I haven't done it myself, but I can't.
Pserendipity Daniels
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11-03-2009 07:02
From: Lear Cale
I wish people wouldn't make intentionally mean posts, I'll have luck with that. < snip > I haven't done it myself < snip >
Fixed it for ya!

Pep (A paragon of virtue, excessive modesty being the principal deficiency.)
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11-03-2009 07:55
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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.


Not only that, but you can change the name of the person you're quoting!
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11-03-2009 08:03
From: Pserendipity Daniels

PS For a good example, Drivin, look at one of Love's posts in the Undying Thread yesterday; jeez, I was too f'n stupid to note the obvious! :rolleyes:


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11-03-2009 08:05
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Darion Rasmuson
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11-03-2009 08:19
From: Debra Himmel
Should forum members be allow to quote other members with words they never actually wrote in a post and then justify it by saying they also wrote "fixed it" below the quote?

Yes.
Lear Cale
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11-03-2009 08:31
From: Darion Rasmuson
Yes.
Well put! :D
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