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Chris Norse
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12-09-2009 18:51
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I'm not sure I like the way that this conversation is tending . . .

You have been here long enough to know how most all conversations end.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:51
From: Brenda Connolly
Just let me know when it is duct tape time.

Can you use it on Twilight? Pleazzzzzze???
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:53
From: Twilight Miami
Perhaps parthenogenesis is the solution. In the hyena world, females rule. It is one or the other, never both...
There's a whole spectrum, hyenas are at one end, seals at the other, and plenty of species have no clear dominant gender. Trust your dog but not your dogma.

And who can resist this cute face?

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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:54
From: Chris Norse
You have been here long enough to know how most all conversations end.

Eeeep. :eek:
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Kay Penberg
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12-10-2009 00:17
From: Twilight Miami
The data is often irrelevant Kay. The global warming/climate change controversy is a contemporary case in point. Sometimes faith is the only logical course of action...


How can data be irrelevant to an argument?
Kay Penberg
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12-10-2009 00:19
From: Scylla Rhiadra
In other words, Kay, don't ask for "proof." It's enough to just "feel" that it is, will also be, and SHOULD be a "man's world" . . .

Sounds reasonable to me. I'm convinced. :rolleyes:


Yeah, me too. I'm totally won over.
Kay Penberg
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12-10-2009 00:23
From: Twilight Miami
Very low blow Scylla. I have a dog and he is far from stupid and unthinking.


I'm going to hazard a guess that he doesn't engage in intellectual thought about his social position re female dogs. Course, I could be wrong.
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-10-2009 02:51
I have been reading this thread with considerable amusement, and thought it was time to throw in a few more comments to balance up the hysterical activist ranting.
From: Lindal Kidd
Statistically speaking, women are better with words than men, and SL puts a premium on literacy.
Only if you think that quantity is better than quality, or that torrents of over-emotional irrationalities trump logical common sense.
From: Lindal Kidd
In SL, there is no size or strength advantage for men.
You are demonstrating your bias again (as does Scylla below) assuming that I meant physical strength rather than mental strength or strength of character.
From: Lindal Kidd
Women are more likely to be spoken to, to get a cordial reception, to be trusted.
Says who? Just take, *your* example below, the numbers of men playing "females" in comparison with women playing males; I'm much less likely to "trust" a "female" in RL to be a female.
From: Lindal Kidd
Because we don't depend on the SL economy to feed, clothe, and house us, women are not subjected to second class economic status in SL.
ROFL! Your own posts are full of references to the "Geek" without whom it would seem that you might have problems even starting up SL.
From: Lindal Kidd
There are many more SL jobs open to women than men.
Excellent! You can labour and we'll just enjoy ourselves.
From: Lindal Kidd
The negative consequences of casual sexual liaisons don't pertain in SL. (Physical consequences, I mean, like STDs and unwanted pregnancies. There are still plenty of emotional consequences.)
If this was relevant, why do proportionately so many more "females" get driven to lesbian relationships, then? I understand you can spek authoritatively regarding this subject.
From: Lindal Kidd
80% or more of the content in SL is created for women. (Well, it is in RL too, I suppose).
An Ad Man's dream! Conspicuous and completely unnecessary consumption! With all those impressionable women here I am astonished that LL hasn't managed to monetise the game by inviting Google in.
From: Lindal Kidd
Quite a few men have recognized the inherent advantages SL gives to women and use female avatars...a much higher percentage than women using male avs.
Are they real men though?
From: Lindal Kidd
I think that SL has done more for Women's Lib than all the feminist ranters.
I'm quite happy to leave you to your blind belief.
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Oh stuff and nonsense. Physical strength matters less and less in RL, and not at all in SL, and (sorry) that's the only conceivable area in which men are "stronger."
You personally (as well as others) have demonstrated consistently your lack of strength of character, allowing yourself to be manipulated so that your emotional weaknesses have been made public; and that is losing control in a forum, where speed and extent of response is completely under your control - inworld I would anticipate that hyperemotional over-reactions would be precipitated more quickly, and my experience backs this up.
From: Scylla Rhiadra
And as I believe that men are also victimized, albeit in more subtle ways, by a patriarchal system, they are hardly more "in control" than women.
That is a necessary belief for you, I suppose.
From: Scylla Rhiadra
We need to stop thinking in terms of individual men and women, and more in terms of gender as a cultural construct.
No we don't. I'm quite happy for you feminists to strive for equality, but please can you do it quietly somewhere else so you don't interrupt my beer, chips and sport.
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Contrary to popular belief, (most) feminists do not want your penis castrated. We just want it . . . controlled. More. And, um, better.
Pipe-dreams!

Pep (Just check how many complaints in these forums are initiated by women, rather than men, and tell me who is happier with SL. ;) )
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Kay Penberg
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12-10-2009 03:46
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (Just check how many complaints in these forums are initiated by women, rather than men, and tell me who is happier with SL. ;) )


The smilie means you're not serious, right? 'Cos if you are, it's a false inference. Just because men appear not to "complain" here as frequently as women, you cannot infer they must therefore be happier.

Perhaps they don't post because they think "real" men don't do that sort of thing. Maybe they don't see complaints from other men and so assume that sort of thing is only for women. Maybe they just sob themselves to sleep at night. Heck, maybe they just bottle it up and go grief someone in-world. And then again, maybe they really are happier. The thing is, you just don't know.

Pep (A false inference might lead to truth, but you still took the wrong direction to get there) :)
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-10-2009 04:57
From: Kay Penberg
The smilie means you're not serious, right?
It's a "wink" smily, to indicate that I know something you don't.
From: Kay Penberg
'Cos if you are, it's a false inference. Just because men appear not to "complain" here as frequently as women, you cannot infer they must therefore be happier.
Unless you can convincingly demonstrate that men do not complain then you are wasting time and space here. And you haven't made any cogent argument for your viewpoint at all.
From: Kay Penberg
Perhaps they don't post because they think "real" men don't do that sort of thing. Maybe they don't see complaints from other men and so assume that sort of thing is only for women. Maybe they just sob themselves to sleep at night. Heck, maybe they just bottle it up and go grief someone in-world. And then again, maybe they really are happier. The thing is, you just don't know.
No, *you* don't know. I *am* a man. I *do* know. And you are wrong. Once again, female emotional argument leads up a blind alley.
From: Kay Penberg
Pep (A false inference might lead to truth, but you still took the wrong direction to get there)
I think you are missing the point of my argument *and* the way I present it :)

Pep (See my comments elsewhere on whether truth is a valid concept in SL.)
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12-10-2009 05:06
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Unless you can convincingly demonstrate that men do not complain then you are wasting time and space here.
Pep makes up for the rest of the gender. Both in numbers of complaints and in wasting time and space.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-10-2009 05:11
From: Argent Stonecutter
Pep makes up for the rest of the gender. Both in numbers of complaints and in wasting time and space.
Complain? Me? I don't need to. :p

And you obviously don't feel that I am wasting your time and space by the Law of Revealed Preference, since you don't have me on ignore. :cool:

Pep (And, anyway, what would a badly role-played lower order animal like you know about men?)
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Seven Okelli
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12-10-2009 05:40
From: Pserendipity Daniels

If this was relevant, why do proportionately so many more "females" get driven to lesbian relationships, then?


Because they don't want to walk.
Eli Schlegal
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12-10-2009 05:47
From: Seven Okelli
Because they don't want to walk.


Haaa!
Argent Stonecutter
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12-10-2009 05:49
From: Pserendipity Daniels
since you don't have me on ignore
How do you know?
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Lexxi Gynoid
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12-10-2009 05:50
From: Chris Norse
/me checks my pants
1 Penis Check
1 Pair Testicles Check


Nope, I would say I haven't.

I'm glad it is 1 penis, 1 pair testicles. instead of the other way around. 1 pair penis, 1 testicle.
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12-10-2009 05:53
From: Argent Stonecutter

good kitty *pets*
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Eli Schlegal
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12-10-2009 05:53
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I'm glad it is 1 penis, 1 pair testicles. instead of the other way around. 1 pair penis, 1 testicle.


Don't knock it until you've tried it :p
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12-10-2009 05:57
From: Chris Norse
Scylla and Twilight, have either of you followed the controversy over the speech given by Professor Walter Block at Loyola College Maryland in which he discussed the male/female wage gap and the glass ceiling from an Austrian economic point of view?
The start of the story.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block112.html

His archives, for all the essays he has posted on this site.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block-arch.html

There was that philosophy professor who wrote that really long series of books (or was it psychology? I forget). People like reenacting them in world. Other people argue about "internet" vs. "real" vs. "book" etc. How close to the book, or if they really have read the good book or only have someone tell them what is in it or, etc.

Some nice looking sims, nature, city, those Goreans. I tend to explore where I can out of sight of people, so I can't say one way or another how the people are, though.
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12-10-2009 06:02
From: Eli Schlegal
Don't knock it until you've tried it :p

Serve up on a plate. Don't forget ketchup. I let you know.
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Chris Norse
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12-10-2009 06:37
From: Lexxi Gynoid
There was that philosophy professor who wrote that really long series of books (or was it psychology? I forget). People like reenacting them in world. Other people argue about "internet" vs. "real" vs. "book" etc. How close to the book, or if they really have read the good book or only have someone tell them what is in it or, etc.

Some nice looking sims, nature, city, those Goreans. I tend to explore where I can out of sight of people, so I can't say one way or another how the people are, though.

Nope, he is an econ professor from New Orleans who proposes an economic rather than a social cause for the male/female wage gap. Though social conditions do play a role in the economic choices.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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12-10-2009 06:43
From: Chris Norse
Nope, he is an econ professor from New Orleans who proposes an economic rather than a social cause for the male/female wage gap. Though social conditions do play a role in the economic choices.

I was referring to a different professor. I was saying that there was professor that wrote this long series of books. You know, the Gor series? It was a response to feminism.
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12-10-2009 06:44
From: Argent Stonecutter
How do you know?
If you don't have me on ignore you have no reasonable basis to make such a comment, obviously.

Pep (I'm psychic, too.)
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Chris Norse
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12-10-2009 06:45
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I was referring to a different professor. I was saying that there was professor that wrote this long series of books. You know, the Gor series? It was a response to feminism.

Other than enjoying some of Boris' book covers, that series never interested me. (If it wasn't Boris, it was someone who drew in his style)
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12-10-2009 07:05
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Some nice looking sims, nature, city, those Goreans. I tend to explore where I can out of sight of people, so I can't say one way or another how the people are, though.


Most of them are good and intelligent people. Living on a Gor sim is like living in a small town.

The male dominance thing gets very old very quickly though.
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