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Chris Norse
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12-09-2009 18:03
From: Twilight Miami
Love the hamster photo Argent. Incredible moment. There is no sexual equivalence in the animal kingdom. I wonder why...

Pssst, that is a ferret, or a weasel if I am picking at Argent.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:04
From: Chris Norse
Can't get any better, I am already the best.

But controlled? Or do you have one of those out-of-control penises, that insists upon driving cars, playing "manly" blood sports, and trying to coerce sex out of a woman on a first date?
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12-09-2009 18:05
From: Kay Penberg
It doesn't *prove* your point. If you reach the same conclusion from diametrically opposite data, then it is difficult to see how the data figures in your conclusion at all.

The data is often irrelevant Kay. The global warming/climate change controversy is a contemporary case in point. Sometimes faith is the only logical course of action...
Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:10
From: Twilight Miami
The data is often irrelevant Kay. The global warming/climate change controversy is a contemporary case in point. Sometimes faith is the only logical course of action...

In other words, Kay, don't ask for "proof." It's enough to just "feel" that it is, will also be, and SHOULD be a "man's world" . . .

Sounds reasonable to me. I'm convinced. :rolleyes:
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12-09-2009 18:12
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Thank you, Twilight, for explaining the "contemporary nomenclature" of the modern debate around gender relationships. I appreciate your patience.

The real problem here, I might suggest, lies not merely upon the establishment of a "uniform understanding" of these terms, but rather in employing them correctly in the first place. I think that the argument can be made that "gender bias" actually represents something rather more subtle than "sex discrimination," but I'll let that pass. On the other hand, the term, "gender confusion," that you "use to describe the inability to distinguish or accept the fundamental differences between men and women" actually means something rather different in both common and specialized parlance, referring instead to what is more precisely known as Gender Identity Disorder. This is a rather different thing than what you describe.


This seems rather fuzzy to me. Sorry, I may need an explanation of your explanation. If "bias" is distinguished from "discrimination" by the fact that the latter works through the apprehension of "differences," how then does the former work? It is presumably not merely an arbitrary like or dislike, as you insist that "bias" does NOT imply "unreasoned judgment." So, upon what is it that "bias" does depend, exactly?


Well now, here you see we get into trouble again. This is YOUR definition of what "Gender bias" means. And I'm afraid I'm unclear what you mean by "masculine" or "feminine" characteristics. Or how this does NOT operate (as you suggest above is the proper domain of "discrimination";) by distinguishing "differences" between male and female. Nor am I clear (I'm sorry to be such trouble . . .) why a mere "preference" for one over the other does not constitute a "prejudice."


Given that you except "biological sex" here from your analysis, I can only assume that you espy the "fundamental differences" between men and women in . . . what? Their mental abilities? Their emotional predispositions? And what are the nature of these differences? Whence do such differences arise? Are they cultural or (as "fundamental" would seem to imply) essential and natural? And why is it that it is "reasonable to have bias and discriminate" in this way?

Please do respond: as it seems that I "misunderstand the difference between gender bias and gender confusion," you can imagine that I am fairly anxious to be guided in this matter.

I think I am falling in love with you Scylla (doesn't matter if you are a man or woman if that matters). The intellectual intercourse is beyond bliss for me, it is bordering on oblivion. I will continue the discussion (be patient please) but it will take me awhile to recover from your incomprehensible ranting...
Chris Norse
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12-09-2009 18:14
Scylla and Twilight, have either of you followed the controversy over the speech given by Professor Walter Block at Loyola College Maryland in which he discussed the male/female wage gap and the glass ceiling from an Austrian economic point of view?
The start of the story.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block112.html

His archives, for all the essays he has posted on this site.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block-arch.html
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:16
From: Twilight Miami
I think I am falling in love with you Scylla (doesn't matter if you are a man or woman if that matters). The intellectual intercourse is beyond bliss for me, it is bordering on oblivion. I will continue the discussion (be patient please) but it will take me awhile to recover from your incomprehensible ranting...

Please, take your time. No rush. I have plenty of men I need to "vaginize" in the meantime.

Chris, would you mind stepping over here for a moment, please? :D
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Chris Norse
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12-09-2009 18:16
From: Scylla Rhiadra
But controlled? Or do you have one of those out-of-control penises, that insists upon driving cars, playing "manly" blood sports, and trying to coerce sex out of a woman on a first date?

Coerce? Never. Seduce........Maybe.
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12-09-2009 18:18
From: Twilight Miami
Love the hamster photo Argent.
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12-09-2009 18:19
From: Twilight Miami
There is no sexual equivalence in the animal kingdom. I wonder why...
Sure there's sexual equality in the animal kingdom, in species without much sexual dimorphism. Then there's hyenas, a species to give dominant males nightmares.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:20
From: Argent Stonecutter
Sure there's sexual equality in the animal kingdom, in species without much sexual dimorphism. Then there's hyenas, a species to give dominant males nightmares.

Argent, when I suggested that animals were stupid unthinking brutes, I DO hope that you know I was excepting you? :)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:21
From: Chris Norse
Scylla and Twilight, have either of you followed the controversy over the speech given by Professor Walter Block at Loyola College Maryland in which he discussed the male/female wage gap and the glass ceiling from an Austrian economic point of view?
The start of the story.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block112.html

His archives, for all the essays he has posted on this site.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block-arch.html

Thanks, Chris. No, I haven't. I'm glancing over the first paper right now; he makes some good points, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to like where he ends up . . .
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12-09-2009 18:22
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Argent, when I suggested that animals were stupid unthinking brutes, I DO hope that you know I was excepting you? :)

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Twilight Miami
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12-09-2009 18:23
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Um . . . maybe because animals are stupid unthinking beasts?

Just sayin' is all . . .

Very low blow Scylla. I have a dog and he is far from stupid and unthinking. For example, when he needs to go to the bathroom, he has the thought process to go to the door with an imploring kinda look. Don't get me wrong, he does what dogs do and all that, but I would trust him with my life. That is not something I can say about most people I know...
Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:28
From: Twilight Miami
Very low blow Scylla. I have a dog and he is far from stupid and unthinking. For example, when he needs to go to the bathroom, he has the thought process to go to the door with an imploring kinda look. Don't get me wrong, he does what dogs do and all that, but I would trust him with my life. That is not something I can say about most people I know...

I am happy to extend the exemption offered to Argent to your dog as well.

I am nothing if not generous.
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12-09-2009 18:29
From: Scylla Rhiadra
In other words, Kay, don't ask for "proof." It's enough to just "feel" that it is, will also be, and SHOULD be a "man's world" . . .

Sounds reasonable to me. I'm convinced. :rolleyes:

Denial and delusion Scylla...gifts from a benevolent god with a sense of humor. For what it's worth, I am changing my geographical location from "state of denial" to "lost in space."
Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:31
From: Twilight Miami
Denial and delusion Scylla...gifts from a benevolent god with a sense of humor. For what it's worth, I am changing my geographical location from "state of denial" to "lost in space."

That any god who might seem to favour putting men in charge of the planet and the welfare of humankind has a "sense of humour" I will not dispute. I just think it's a rather nasty one.
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12-09-2009 18:34
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Please, take your time. No rush. I have plenty of men I need to "vaginize" in the meantime.

Chris, would you mind stepping over here for a moment, please? :D

Be careful Chris. I think Scylla might have scalpels for fingernails...
Chris Norse
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12-09-2009 18:37
From: Twilight Miami
Be careful Chris. I think Scylla might have scalpels for fingernails...

Scylla's meow is worse than her scratch. She is a pussy cat.
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Twilight Miami
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12-09-2009 18:38
From: Argent Stonecutter
Sure there's sexual equality in the animal kingdom, in species without much sexual dimorphism. Then there's hyenas, a species to give dominant males nightmares.

Perhaps parthenogenesis is the solution. In the hyena world, females rule. It is one or the other, never both...
Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:41
From: Chris Norse
Scylla's meow is worse than her scratch. She is a pussy cat.

/me raises an eyebrow . . .

Chris, you are going to wreck my reputation.

Shhhhh!
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12-09-2009 18:44
From: Scylla Rhiadra
That any god who might seem to favour putting men in charge of the planet and the welfare of humankind has a "sense of humour" I will not dispute. I just think it's a rather nasty one.

Seems to support the theory that god is female...
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12-09-2009 18:46
From: Chris Norse
Scylla's meow is worse than her scratch. She is a pussy cat.

I wonder if Scylla purrs...
Scylla Rhiadra
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12-09-2009 18:49
From: Twilight Miami
I wonder if Scylla purrs...

I'm not sure I like the way that this conversation is tending . . .
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12-09-2009 18:49
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I'm not sure I like the way that this conversation is tending . . .


Just let me know when it is duct tape time.
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