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Phil Deakins
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11-11-2009 03:53
From: Pserendipity Daniels
There's none so blind as those that will not see. I bring enlightenment throughout Residents Answers, exposing emotional arguments as the nonsense they are and highlighting flawed thought processes.
See what I mean? You bring badness throughout Resident Answers, purely for the sake of being nasty. You *have* to be retarded to write what I quoted.

Btw, I only got that far in your post. I didn't read the rest as you'd already hung yourself with that bit.
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11-11-2009 03:55
From: Phil Deakins
First paragraph:
That's the only but that is worth responding to. Pep: I am not the slightest bit interested in what you are concerned with.

Most of your fault-finiding is about the way that posts are written. Sometimes, as in the 'linebacker' comment, they are just out of the blue and nasty - for the sake of being nasty.

Why? because you caused that outburst. You wrote things for the sake of being nasty, and you pick and pick and pick at it. It culminated in driving one person away completely, and in that outburst. You still pick at it, by posting it in other threads - and you caused it all. You don't have a concience. You're just a nasty retard.
Nothing new or insightful to say then?

Pep (But I notice that you have decided not to bother editing your posts any more.)
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11-11-2009 03:57
From: Phil Deakins
See what I mean? You bring badness throughout Resident Answers, purely for the sake of being nasty. You *have* to be retarded to write what I quoted.

Btw, I only got that far in your post. I didn't read the rest as you'd already hung yourself with that bit.
So you are happy for everyone to take as accurate the expressions and conclusions of irrational arguments and defective thinking?

Pep (I suppose it suits you.)
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11-11-2009 03:58
What happens when an irresistible force meets an unmovable object

Pep vs. Phil

;)
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11-11-2009 03:59
From: Phil Deakins
I'm only going by what you say. I've never posted in that thread and I only look in it when there's something specific to look for - like Pep quoting that outburst more than once. A number of people have made comments in the threads like this one, though, and I haven't seen anyone say that the outburst wasn't merited - only that the content of it was wrong. I haven't even seen you say that an outburst against Pep was merited.


You have seen me say that outburst was NOT MERITED. That is my opinion. Pep could have stopped needling her. Mute could have been used. People could have quit quoting him. It was a group effort and there were alternatives to That Outburst. Any sensible adult knows this. It is as plain as day to me that those words should not have been written for ANY reason and there were any number of preemptive remedies to being goaded into any outburst, at all.

From: Phil Deakins
You are not "game", fair or otherwise. You are someone who is discussing this topic from a particular point of view, that's all.


Nonsense. It has happened in this forum, another forum, in IM and in PM. I just never threw a tantrum in response.

From: Phil Deakins
To be honest, I don't recall ever having seen a post by Pep that answered an OP's question, or that passed on useful information in a thread. I only ever see him write posts that are either intended to be humorous or unnecessary fault-finding.


That is untrue. He has certainly provided non-derailing, non-critical information on at least one occasion.

From: Phil Deakins
Well, I can say truthfully that, if I affected someone to that extent, I would feel really down about it. Perhaps I am more sensitive than you. That's not to say that I've never been the cause of such feelings, and I've felt very down on occasions. I think the worst one in this forum was with someone (I forget who) when we wound each other up really badly. We got together in IMs to calm things down. Pep's reaction to such things is to have "an easy concience". I'm sorry, Laurin, but it's all as plain as day.


If I affected someone to the extent that they wished death on me is a number of graphic ways in a public forum, I would be quite shocked. I don't deserve any such thing, in my opinion, and if someone snapped like that, I would be looking at the larger picture. That is equally plain to me.
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11-11-2009 04:01
From: Darkness Anubis
What happens when an irresistible force meets an unmovable object

Pep vs. Phil

;)


Yes. I was just telling Jig about the skin fair, have you heard about it?
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Phil Deakins
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11-11-2009 04:01
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (But I notice that you have decided not to bother editing your posts any more.)
You notice nothing. I haven't posted today without editing the post afterwards. You didn't know that there is a period after posting, during which edits can be made withoiut them showing up as having been edited? I think this will be my first unedited post today

ETA:
I was wrong.
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11-11-2009 04:04
From: Laurin Sorbet
Yes. I was just telling Jig about the skin fair, have you heard about it?


No I hadn't but then again I am a proud fashion emergency (or as a friend calls me "Straight Eye for the queer guy";) since 2004. I am still in slider skin and hair and the same outfit I bought in 2004.

;)
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11-11-2009 04:06
From: Darkness Anubis
What happens when an irresistible force meets an unmovable object

Pep vs. Phil

;)
Nah.

From: Phil Deakins
/me shakes his head is disbelief... and wanders off bemused...


Pep (Irresistible.)
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11-11-2009 04:07
Sorry about the derail, Scylla :o

I've never really been griefed in any spectacular way. Rude comments from morons, but those are easily dealt with...umn...being knocked into a river in a sim long gone if I went AFK, but that was the done thing...once a Spanish lady went nuts on my with a huge tirade and a gun. I was with my Portuguese ex who more or less gleaned she was in the midst of some romantic debaucle, thought I was involved in it (no!) and was also upset with the style of Seville flamenco I was dancing when in a virtual Barcelona. By the end of the rumpus we were howling laughing and friended.

My advice is to roll with it, blow it off and not take it personally. It serves me well.
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11-11-2009 04:07
From: Phil Deakins
You notice nothing. I haven't posted today without editing the post afterwards. You didn't know that there is a period after posting, during which edits can be made withoiut them showing up as having been edited? I think this will be my first unedited post today

ETA:
I was wrong.
So you have deliberately left all of your errors in your posts today then?

Pep (Or perhaps you didn't realise that you had made them; "conscience" is such a difficult word, isn't it.)
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11-11-2009 04:09
From: Laurin Sorbet
My advice is to roll with it, blow it off and not take it personally.
You insensitive biatch, you!

Pep (Violence against women is a *serious* issue!)
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11-11-2009 04:10
From: Laurin Sorbet
Yes. I was just telling Jig about the skin fair, have you heard about it?


I went to last year's one and I'm afraid it was a bit of a lag fest.
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11-11-2009 04:12
From: Deira Llanfair
I went to last year's one and I'm afraid it was a bit of a lag fest.


If you can swing it go in the morning our time. I was just there and no lag on my lappy. Hit all the shops I wanted to (I scoped the blog first). Some nice things this year :)
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11-11-2009 04:12
From: Deira Llanfair
I went to last year's one and I'm afraid it was a bit of a lag fest.



your tagline reminds me of a gadget I actually built years ago. It was a sign that said bang head here. when you clicked it it started an animation that made your AV bang its head on the sign. ;)
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Phil Deakins
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11-11-2009 04:14
From: Laurin Sorbet
You have seen me say that outburst was NOT MERITED. That is my opinion. Pep could have stopped needling her. Mute could have been used. People could have quit quoting him. It was a group effort and there were alternatives to That Outburst. Any sensible adult knows this. It is as plain as day to me that those words should not have been written for ANY reason and there were any number of preemptive remedies to being goaded into any outburst, at all.
You say that it was not merited, and yet you go on to say why it *was* merited - "Pep could have stopped needling her". I don't dispute that there were things that could have prevented the eventual outcome but it was Pep at the centre, "needling her", that caused the outburst. It was merited - well deserved..

From: Laurin Sorbet
Nonsense. It has happened in this forum, another forum, in IM and in PM. I just never threw a tantrum in response.
Alright. I'll make it clearer...

FOR ME, you are not "game", fair or otherwise. You are someone who is discussing this topic from a particular point of view, that's all.

From: Laurin Sorbet
That is untrue. He has certainly provided non-derailing, non-critical information on at least one occasion.
LOL - precisely.

From: Laurin Sorbet
If I affected someone to the extent that they wished death on me is a number of graphic ways in a public forum, I would be quite shocked. I don't deserve any such thing, in my opinion, and if someone snapped like that, I would be looking at the larger picture. That is equally plain to me.
I don't think anyone thinks that death was merited. I suppose we're different, then. You would look at the larger picture, and I would look inward at myself and feel very down that I'd gone so far as to cause such feelings in someone that they wrote that stuff.
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11-11-2009 04:14
From: Pserendipity Daniels
You insensitive biatch, you!

Pep (Violence against women is a *serious* issue!)


I have been dying to use this again!


And no Jig, you may NOT eat him. His ribs are not even appetizers.
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11-11-2009 04:22
From: Phil Deakins
You say that it was not merited, and yet you go on to say why it *was* merited - "Pep could have stopped needling her". I don't dispute that there were things that could have prevented the eventual outcome but it was Pep at the centre, "needling her", that caused the outburst. It was merited - well deserved..


So if I were to flip out right now I could claim justification that you are misunderstanding me and no amount of clarification seems to solve that?

Not merited. The needling was not sufficient to provoke an outburst. Not from me anyhow, therefor in my opinion, not merited.



From: Phil Deakins
FOR ME, you are not "game", fair or otherwise. You are someone who is discussing this topic from a particular point of view, that's all.


This could be a semantics thing. I used fair game in the meaning of fair target.

And the 'one' was humor.

From: Phil Deakins
I don't think anyone thinks that death was merited. I suppose we're different, then. You would look at the larger picture, and I would look inward at myself and feel very down that I'd gone so far as to cause such feelings in someone that they wrote that stuff.


I would look at the larger picture because I was there for both of these outbursts. Is he being a PITA now? Yup. And out come terms like 'retard'. Come on.
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11-11-2009 04:30
From: Laurin Sorbet
So if I were to flip out right now I could claim justification that you are misunderstanding me and no amount of clarification seems to solve that?
I'm not needling you, or picking on you. We're merely having a discussion. You said that Pep was needling her and, knowing the sort of posts that he writes, I believe you.

From: Laurin Sorbet
Is he being a PITA now? Yup. And out come terms like 'retard'. Come on.
I genuinely think that he's not all there. I honestly think that he is lacking in the concience department. What else can I think when he continues to find fault with people, causes a lot of ill will and bad feelings in people, even to the extent of driving someone away and causing that phenomenal outburst, and still sleeps peacefully with a clear concience?
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11-11-2009 04:32
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11-11-2009 04:53
From: Phil Deakins
I'm not needling you, or picking on you. We're merely having a discussion. You said that Pep was needling her and, knowing the sort of posts that he writes, I believe you.


It is all a matter of perception, isn't it? I already had my say so it isn't a discussion anymore, it is irritating now.

From: Phil Deakins
I genuinely think that he's not all there. I honestly think that he is lacking in the concience department. What else can I think when he continues to find fault with people, causes a lot of ill will and bad feelings in people, even to the extent of driving someone away and causing that phenomenal outburst, and still sleeps peacefully with a clear concience?


Grand, you are very welcome to your thoughts.

The ouburster is welcome to her thoughts.

Pep is welcome to his thoughts.

I am welcome to my thoughts, which are of oranges, skin fairs, and fuzzy bunnies.
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11-11-2009 04:59
From: Phil Deakins
I'm not needling you, or picking on you. We're merely having a discussion. You said that Pep was needling her and, knowing the sort of posts that he writes, I believe you.

I genuinely think that he's not all there. I honestly think that he is lacking in the concience department. What else can I think when he continues to find fault with people, causes a lot of ill will and bad feelings in people, even to the extent of driving someone away and causing that phenomenal outburst, and still sleeps peacefully with a clear concience?
Out of interest, what do you define as a "concience"?

Pep (Did you notice I spelled it like you do?)
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11-11-2009 05:01
From: Laurin Sorbet
I already had my say so it isn't a discussion anymore, it is irritating now.
That surprises me, since you continue to discuss it. You could always stop discussing it if it becomes too irritating
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11-11-2009 05:01
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Out of interest, what do you define as a "concience"?
That which is lacking in you.
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11-11-2009 05:02
From: Phil Deakins
That surprises me, since you continue to discuss it. You could always stop discussing it if it becomes too irritating
As could you.

Pep (Or perhaps you enjoy being irritating; how does *that* sit with your moral stance regarding "concience"?)
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