How have you been griefed?

No, it doesn't, unfortunately.. It will stop it for the time being, but if the device has been made with malicious intent -- as opposed to being just an incompetently scripted hugger -- it will keep the permissions indefinitely, I fear, or at least until it's reset, so the griefer can just turn it on again next time the victim is in the area.

A friend of mine got caught with one of these last year, and the only way we could find to stop it was to tell his tormentor that if she didn't behave, he'd AR her for harassment and I'd make it my business to get her permanently banned from several sims where I knew she liked going and with whose owners I happen to be friendly. I don't know whether his threat or my promise did the trick, but it stopped.

Now, of course, he could just have used Emerald, but this was before it was available.

ETA -- I saw your question to Deira If it's what I'm thinking of, the attachment is worn by the griefer.

That is scarily perfect.

Pep is the reason you have an ignore list.

His posts are all completely worthless, why are you even reading them?

You are correct. Sorry....it's hard to ignore some side effects that they have.

Ignore lists don't cover the situation where someone quotes his messages and responds to them, at least on this forum.

Besides, sometimes it is fun to "punch the clown".

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone that is responding in forum without at least some RL thought processes attached. Darn near impossible, probably. Same inworld....no matter how much someone might deny it.

Most griefing I have recieved has been the general non personal kind. Meaning I am just a person they randomly found to hassle. To me that can be annoying, but is pretty easily dealt with (go somewhere else, sit on a prim and ignore until they go away, laugh at them).

Only one time has griefing really felt more then annoying. When I was on my child alt, peacefully shopping, I had an avatar start doing the repeated pushing me around thing. Just silently pushing me about the store. I did the sensible thing and sat on some available furniture. When pushing no longer became available then he decided to open his mouth.

I got a full rant of how evil child avatars were and how I was personally disgusting for wanting that kind of sex. There is nothing about sex associated with that alt. No sex groups. No flirting in the profile. It is the furthest thing from my mind when I choose to play as a kid.

I let him rant. Told him I would have been happy to change or leave if he just nicely told me that my alt was bothering him. Reminded him he could of done the same and asked him where in the world he got the idea my alt had anything to do with sex. He said it was obvious from my title (little angel). *shakes my head* Some people and thier dirty minds.

I know it wasn't much of an incidence, but it did take some of the joy away. I think it is really sad when others take our joy from us in mean spiritedness.

Total agreement on this.

I'm not knowledgeable about these matters. But: how difficult a fix would it be to change SL coding to put a time limit on animation permissions?

And--is there good reason for NOT putting a time limit on those permissions?

I don't know, Whimsy . . . it doesn't seem like such a minor "incidence" to me; I can completely understand how it might, as you say, take some of the joy away. I'm very sorry that it happened.

Again, whether it is technically "griefing" or not, verbal harassment and hatred like this is, too my mind, much more serious than being orbited, caged, or pushed in-world.

As a sort of sidebar, I find instances of this kind of self-righteous behaviour particularly upsetting to read about. I'm not an "anti child avatar" activist, or a born-again Christian, but I've been called (inaccurately, I believe) a 'crusader" and a "vigilante," and I certainly AM an "activist." But I would never ever take my activism to the point of berating or haranguing someone in this kind of way: so far as I am concerned, whatever the motive or the value of the "cause" being expounded, this kind of personal attack is harassment, pure and simple.

Please feel free to try.

Pep (You *have* been? Sorry, I've obviously been missing something.)

Not sure what the fuss is all about with Pep. I've always said he is my Latin or Maths Master when I was in school. They're all like that when they get to his age and with his background. I'm also gonna make people spit when I say that I dont find his attitudes at all surprising. In a weird way, they're endearing.

He's all "chalk and talk" and fairly typical of his generation and background. North Americans (my God! What a sweeping statement!) tend to get very huffy when they meet Peps. It's the same when I pop my head in. SL proves that global though we be, we have so many different cultural "languages". Even Londoners can get huffy meeting Peps. I might add that peopel from London have some serious issues. I actually believe Pep's claim to an Oxbridge degree. He has that "risen to the glittering prizes" attitude but he's not got a superiorityattitude compared to most Oxbridge grads I've ever met. I never went to University but I've slept with or dined or wined a few grads He's all right. Maybe when we cant smile we're the ones with the problem.

Anyway, lighten up all of you. Forums are sounding more and more like a badly written Ibsen play. It's all these causes and all these "wimmen issues" that really cant get dealt with on a realistic basis in this mileau.

just a thought absolutely no idea if it would work but sitting on a poseball will force a new set of animation permissions to trigger and might clear the malicious one. Might be worth a shot.

I told you he was a pompous deluded prat didn't I, Laurin.

Pep (Now he's proving it by putting quotation marks - I can see him with both hands each side of his head with two bent fingers; and it's pathetic - around your obviously mistaken description of him as a friend.)

Almost as terrible as pointing out chunky thighs, eh?

Pep (Because avatar appearance is *so* important, isn't it; compared with trivia like cancer, that is.)

Would the effectiveness of this depend on the "ranking" (or whatever the technical term is) of the animations? It's an interesting idea, though. I wish I could test it.

(Anyone want to grief me? )

Ahhh that delicious word - "prat"!
I'll closely follow that with "aaah! smeg!"
Go to bed Pep and rest your weary head.

It's teh end of another Remembrance Day and we should count our blessings we dont lie in the cold and stony ground of some foreign land.

Hold the presses! Woody Allen wants to know if you two would sign up as his new script-writing team.

Pep (Laugh? I nearly did. Well, no, I didn't, actually.)

They're in bed Pep. Or silenced you. No one is listening.
GO TO BED!!

I do. There is no "try".



Seems to be a common theme. You've missed quite a bit in your pathetic little life, haven't you? Poor beebee. *sniffs*

I'm open to correction here, but I am pretty certain it wouldn't have any effect, at least not after you stood up. It's the script that has permission to animate you, and while a script can only have permission to animate one avatar at a time, lots of scripts can simultaneously have permission to animate the same avatar.

The greifer might have to press the button again to restart the unwanted animation, but I don't see how the griefer's script could lose permissions as a result of the victim sitting on anything.

There's the deluded bit.

And there's the pompous prat bit, too.

Pep (Instant confirmation!)

You've got nothing on Woody Allen, Pep.

I mean LITERALLY nothing.

You can lighten up if you want to, but Pap is a nasty piece of work, as you can clearly see from his pathetic replies in recent pages. The sad thing (for him) is that he believes what he writes about himself, but he's obviously a few slices short of a loaf. He has to be to enjoy such widespread rejection.

(pap means tit, btw - quite applicable, I think).

If this ratty-faced arguing doesnt end soon, I'm gonna leave forums.

It's breaking up old forum chat styles and there's a bitterness I dont like. I'm gonna 'sume your in your 40s and 50s and yu sound worse than teens.

Pep's prolly had a bad day. It's November 11th. Not teh happiest of days. I shed my tears already today in a real sense over this day. maybe Pep feels teh same. Who knows? maybe he's mourning too.

Kinda like laying in bed and listening to the adult's party downstairs become a lost cause.