Inclusive Communities and Representations of Violence against Women

You really do need to get past 'b' in your dictionary. If 'blah' is the best you can do in a debate, I suggest a less exacting forum post to follow.

Rock

And you still keep missing the point that most of those 'women' who engage in this sick stuff are, in fact, men.

Rock

And that is one of the most intelligent things that you, oops sorry, someone else, has said.

Rock

That isn't what I said, your misquoting me in that way speaks volumes about who you really are. Unless I am mistaken what you did is grounds for a Libel suit. And no, I am not some sue-happy person, I'll be fine with a public apology.

Is this how you treat your *pets*? Twist their words around and then belittle them based on your own perversion of what they said?


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Your the "sick stuff" one mate, we all call it sex.

So you have checked every person in SL using a female avatar and verified if they are male or female?

Otherwise you only know what you have delt with, which is not the whole picture

Someone with a degree should know better than to make assumptions based on limited data...

Hell most high school graduates have that knowledge

In the interest of bringing the latest technology to the forums, here is insta-translation of troll posts:

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

You forgot the drooling and yelling!

True. But if all the available evidence, that men's attitudes concerning violence towards women are more tolerant, more accepting, with in some cases, the corresponding following through, after exposure to violent pornography, both real and generated, by the lyrics in songs, etc, what would you do about it?

Rock

Well... you have been exposed to all of it...

Should we lock you up in a padded room as being a threat to society?

After all if that material will drive folks to commiting the crimes like you say... you should be locked up as a threat since you have been exposed to it!!!!

You teach your kids about the right to say no. Trying to ban bdsm is ridiculous.

If adults tell you their sex life is none of your business you listen and respect that.

Proves once again that you have no idea to what depths the female mind can be sick. Oh, and thanks for calling someone's choice of fantasy sick. As long as your own a squeakin' clean...

Spot on.

I was illustrating the idiocy of the argument. If you can make that argument for the depiction of violence towards women, then ageplayers could make the same argument (but if you disagree that they could make the same argument as you made, just by replacing the words in the asterisks, I would be keen to hear it).

I did not misquote you, I highlighted my change to your post clearly with asterisks, and inserted the words I did as coming from an ageplayer, to show how absurd your argument was, and invited others to replace the same words with words of their own, and see if torture, murder, whatever, still made sense.

I do not have any pets. Said it before, said it again, and again, and again. Try listening.

Rock

Oh, good point. Those features will be added to the next software update release.

So do paedophiles.

Rock

I'd call you a liar and quote Japan's crime statistics, which are probably the lowest in any civilized culture nowadays. And if the japanese approach to sex related to commerce can't be called sick and violent (without showing a single genital), I don't know what can.

Don't forget that exposure to the material also changes women's attitudes toward violence to be more tolerant of it and less likely to assert their rights against being the targets of such violence.

But what can one do besides enacting and enforcing laws?

Talk to the people I by how that material affects me. Listen to them tell me what they think about it. Teach children about love and respect, and about violence, so when they are adults they can properly evaluate what they see and hear. Don't contribute to the problem myself.

Japanese crime statistics are amongst the lowest, mainly because they have legalised what most other right-thinking countries have outlawed. If you legalise everything, then of course you get low crime figures.

In Japan they allow bestiality porn, they also allow soft-porn of children.

But, if you are into those things Novis, I guess you would call Japan 'civilized'.

Rock

Sorry for using the term *Pets*, lets replace it with *Submissive*. Or whichever PC term you would like to use.

And actually if you read what I wrote I didn't make an argument for the depiction of violence against women.

You did misquote me, simply, if you chose to show something different than what I said you should not have used the

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html


someone will have to quote that...

This is simply not true. I am talking about the kind of violence you yourself are talking about - any crime that is related to actual violence being acted out, whether in a robbery or against women. THESE things are decidedly NOT legal in Japan. And THESE things happen way less in Japan than in any western "culture", despite their "fantasy market" being on the wild side - the thing you blame rising violence rates for.



That was so low it makes me laugh. Think of me the next time you use any appliance that has a japanese name on it. Won't take you long.

You still haven't answered my question either. Y'know, the one about you knowing anything about what women fantasize about.

Your bag is insinuating anyone that doesn't agree with you is a pedo or into some kind of sex crime or somehow closer to it than you.

That's a bloody full on thing to throw around.

You just don't seem to realise how grandiose and arrogant you are being.

That's priceless.

And yet they have laws against raping children or beast...

So if the proliferation of the pron would cause that... shouldn't the crime rates be a lot higher than it is?