Inclusive Communities and Representations of Violence against Women

You are the one who refers to pets. Pets are mindless creatures kept for our amusement. Pets are totally dependent upon their masters. And you think it is ok to treat a woman like that?

Rock, play fair now, I answered your question, how about answering mine.

Do you believe it is your duty and right to stop people having the wrong sort of sex, online and in real life?

Also, do you think it is only people that r/p bdsm on the net that might hurt their neighbors kids?

but there is a tiny widdle miniscule portion of the human popualtion that would still be a threat with the content, and that is what they use as reason to ban anything that would allow some to satisfy their urges and not be a threat to the population as a whole...

When Rock has unglued the goalposts from that herd of charging elephants, I wonder if anyone can spot the difference in the following:

A woman in RL and I find ourselves discussing fantasies. Hers is to be "raped" (or other terms for forced sex with a stranger, probably in public). We decide to go for it, safe words, clothing, where and when is arranged. She is free to halt the scene with one word.


A woman I have never met is walking home in a poorly lit area, and I see her. We have never spoken, but for some unfathomable reason I find myself unable to force myself upon her. There is no trust, no safe word, no prior discussion. Just rape. She cannot avoid this.

A woman in SL and I discuss fantasies, and hers is to find herself "used", raped, taken by force. We both talk at length, and a hunt around for a sim and if necessary suitable partners ensues. She is free to tp out, voice her order to stop, log off, etc.


Now, in these three scenarios, who are the victims? Who are the criminals? Who will have to live their lives mentally (and possibly physically) scarred from an abhorrent act performed upon them?


What we seem to be forever repeating here is one persons consenting sex play is anothers nightmare. And some people are so caught up in their private Utopia they refuse to accept someone else may actually consent and enjoy acting out certain behaviours. Due to childhood experience I shudder at the mere thought of spanking, yet I very much doubt the majority of people reading this would consider rl or sl enactments of that in a consnensual environment to be a crime against women or humanity. And so I choose not to engage or when possible observe, but I also do not crusade against those who enjoy it.

/me looks around at the critters he shares his life with.

Mindless - No.
Kept for my amusement - No.

Treated better than some women or even men in rl and sl - Yes.

No, you obviously do not understand what a police caution is.

If any 'comedian' made a joke like that in a public forum in the UK, it would generate a great deal of complaints, and the police would likely speak to him, under caution, that he should refrain fron making jokes that seems to encourage or trivialise sex with children, which is a crime.

Likewise if he made a joke disparaging a certain race.

Many songs emanating out of the States, with lyrics trivialising or encouraging violence towards women ("smack my bitch up", and worse), cannot now get airtime.

Rock

Much as I can't stand that song, or anything else by that artist, I take it you've seen the video..?

That is YOUR definition of a pet. Not mine. In fact, the term was not coined by me in our classified ads, it was chosen by the Queen and Ladies of the Court, because it was the least offensive of the keywords that are commonly searched upon. Hope that clears that one up for you.

Rock

I just wanna know where these poseball sets are so I can go judge for myself if they're that bad. If they really are that raw and extreme, I'll buy... ummm... I mean 'abuse report' every one for being the vile offensive trash that it is!

Oh so they also burning books too that go into graphic description of rape and such?

Be a shame if Tiger, tiger was banned for the torture and rape in it...

And in the states, the police would be told to come back with a warrant and have the door shut in their faces. Then the police would hear from the ACLU and the comedian's lawyer about their attempt to stifle free speech rights.

Unless I am very much mistaken, you are the proud owner of an appendage that keeps you from knowing what the heck women fantasize about. Ever heard of the slash phenomenon, for instance? If yes and you can even explain why chicks dig it, then we can talk. Until then I hold on to the opinion that you obviously have NO CLUE what female fantasies are all about, other than pointing to romance novels, which puts all women onto the lowest common denominator. Thanks ever so much.

And just for your education, there are indeed a lot of women that carry very violent rape fantasies with them. There are women who fantasize in all detail about being abducted and abused, and when they do, it's not all glory and roses with a happy end at page 258. And yes, some of us get a great big kick out of it.

and your definition of two consenting adults role-playing a scene that harms none is sick and perverted...

I have no problem at all about answering other's questions, but, to be fair now, I do seem to be fielding the questions of around a dozen here, on my own, so I might miss one or two, or believe I have answered it already previously.

My duty? No.
My right, Yes.

I have stated previously that the following 'sex' should be outlawed in SL:

a) Child sex
b) Extreme violent sex towards women, involving rape, torture, mutilation and murder
c) Animal sex

All the above are already banned in RL, and I believe should be banned in SL as well. I have stated previously that I have no problem with all legal sex being engaged in SL, including BDSM 9of the legal variety).

No, I do not believe that people who engage in consentual, and legal, BDSM, pose any danger to my family.

Is that fair enough?

Rock

nope.

Rock

Shame, really.

Checked your sarcasm meter lately...?

The sim and poseball sets were mentioned in an earlier post by another poster.

Rock

Funny how they fought against that 60 years ago. The RAF, Dunkirk, and all that.

I saw the last guy on TV exercising his free speech in a hall during a speech by Obama being hauled off out of the room. Free speech, yeah, right.

Rock

Then I suggest you do so. Maybe with the thing on mute if you have any level of musical taste, but still. Watch to the end. The brief glimpse of the lead character in the mirror.

Not that I'm saying it's particularly clever, or that the song inspires a wholesome message to the feeble minded, but sometimes things simply aren't as you wish them to seem.

It's broken, something sent it off the scale.

Rock

Damn, and here's me thinking it was something to do with the invasion of Poland, and all along it was all to do with being able to buy magazines with rapes scenes in it. See what you can learn from hanging in these forums

Rock

We fought against someone else moving into a power position that threatened our overseas assets and trading stance.

The only type of freedoms we could say that war was fought to defend were owur own brand of free (limited) speech and free (oppressed) thought. Ever since the big arsed old wrinkly lost her favourite German sausage the country was heading into austerity...

Well, guys and gals, I am for for a well-earned barbeque. Back in a couple of hours to see what mischief you have been up to.


Rock

SL, where the men are kids, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.

No it's not, these r/ps your claiming it's your right to stop aren't all against the ToS here.

Like I originally said, it's none of your business what people do between themselves. You seem to think it is.