Inclusive Communities and Representations of Violence against Women

This is getting silly. Maybe you actually move to Saudi and help women in REAL trouble and leave SL alone. And yeah, do the voice test, maybe you are not a guy.

You keep subs as pets, even if you dress it up oh so nicely in the way you do. Don't think for a second that just because you're playing ball with the wannabe morality police now that they won't turn on your activities the moment your support is no longer required. (I could so Godwin this thread right now but what would be the point, it's going to hell fast enough on its own.)

But that would require him to do something other than enjoy his pet RP!

Hell He put shane on mute, so expect the same when he gets flustered dealing with you...

So he didn't see shane post his links to shoot down the two talking to him.

Hell he doesn't realize that if he stops and rereads the ops and her friends agenda that his play is on the chopping block too

Oh, it was 'bait'? And your 'couldn't be bothered' was bait too? And your confusion about the Spanish Inquisition and the Witch Trials, that was 'bait' too?

I await you next post with baited breath.

And for your information, I do have a large vocabulary of Ecclesiatical Latin (I translate medieval church manuscripts), and speak English, and Chinese fluently, with intermediacy in French and Arabic. Two Masters degrees, and several books published. Want to raise?

Rock

I worked in the Middle east for 7 years, including 4 in Saudi Arabia.

You?

Rock

Isn't a prime feature of bodice ripper novels (well, apart from heaving bosoms etc) supposed to be the big, dominant male overpowering the weak female and her finding that omg she LOVES this big, dominant man (but usually only after she's been sexually subdued a few times)?

Let's go for a university definition first:

And now the dreaded Wiki definition:

Surely, the mere fact that bodices are being ripped should indicate out-of-control lust on behalf of the man doing the ripping?

LOL. Awesome. Guess I struck the right chords there.
IM me if you are really interested in my background.

don't forget to tell him to prove it...

I could claim to be superman on the forums...

Since he dismisses all women posting as guys till proven otherwise...

Well you had a go, and got it wrong. In Anubia we welcome ex-subs. Once in Anubia they are no longer subs, we only work with girls who want to break free of being of the sub lifestyle. We take care of their needs, provide support, and try to give as much affection as we can. Quite the reverse of the spit-roasting activities going on in other sims.

All the poseballs I placed in Anubia, and the other sim I built, Hoini (described by others in the forums as one of the most romantic sims in SL), are romantic poseballs, not one sex poseball. So, I don't think I have much to fear from the morality police.

I have one partner in SL, the Queen, and no other (but perhaps that to you is 'kinky').

As I funded completely both Hoini and Anubia, the worst I could be accused of is being a 'sugar daddy', but without the usual benefits. Now, that *is* kinky!

Rock

This is all true. It is exemplified in the Mills and Boon romance novels, particualy with the handsome Arab Sheik whisking the heroine off to his tent in the desert on his black horse. Female rape fantasies are common, but they predominantly are of the type of being overpowered by a strong, handsome male, who they find attractive to begin with. The rape poseball sets are NOT of this female romance variety, and the words that are used to describe them make this very clear.

Rock

translation:

We take women that have been ina busive relationships, and groom them with kindness and care into being emotionally attached to us through gifts and such.

I have two sims full of poseballs designed to guide these women towards feeling romanticly bound to the people suposidly helping them

I have one partner, a pet... and can live vicariously through watching others use my sims to shape and mold these broken women into loving pets.



It's about as consensual as anything else Rock.

It's all about viewpoint.

Bonds of gold are still bonds. Emotional chains are the hardest to break, just ask the women who can't leave the men that beat them.

Sent.

Hitler hitler hitler!

So all rape fantasies are not equal? Some rape fantasies are more acceptable than others? It's OK to fantasise about rape, as long as the rapist is good-looking?

Colour me confused. I thought rape was rape. Isn't that what this whole thread is about? Rape, aka forced sex? Why is one form of rape OK and others not OK?

Because one type is disturbing to them

Hitler hitler hitler.

Please permit me to answer that with some rhetorical questions:

Would you agree that the overwhelming majority of women's rape fantasies are very much different to male fantasies, of rape, torture, mutilation and murder?

Would you agree that the number of women that ever try to live out their rape fantasies in RL is close to zero?

Would you agree that the rape, torture, mutilation and murder of women is a worldwide problem?

Rock

And he avoids answering...

Neither one is okay, but the books have taken it and romanticized the act...we have been conditioned to believe that that type of act isn't as bad and forgivable. Anyone remember General Hospital back in the 80's with Luke & Laura? Same thing, that relationship started out with a rape, yet they have become one of the most beloved couples of soap opera fame...go figure

I wonder where it puts me as a Gorean roleplayer of 1.5 years who has never been raped or abused in Gor and actually isn't into the heavy BDSM scene which is rather different to Gor. Female authenticated by many due to using voice a lot and have been with the same partner for 15 months.

I wonder why Gor is brought up so much in this thread when really it is not just rape and torture, which is actually not that common at all and not possible to stumble upon by accident. Yes, Gor can be a dangerous place in roleplay but so can many types of roleplay. Gor is actually over 200 sims of which most interact with each other producing the 'world of Gor' with it's many cultures and charactors. Interaction includes trading, raiding, wars etc.

I have given tours of various Gor sims to people who were anti Gor and they have been very surprised and some even end up roleplaying there as the immersion is deep with so much interaction. Gor is all about female slavery? in the books they only make up around 3% of the female population, it's often said that in SL Gor too many come wishing to play kajirae to make it realistic. Men are also subject to enslavement and not safe. As someone said before, it's very comparable to ancient Rome roleplay.

I agree rape in real is an awful crime, but my experience is that roleplay in Gorean SL doesn't compare at all. A rapist has little regard for women, roleplayers I have found generally have high regard.

No No and yes (but not due to online r/ping games)

I ask you questions and you answer with questions?

Sorry, I don't play that game.

Thanks for that input Chokolate. I have met many women who say they have had positive experiences in Gor, but likewise I have met many who didn't. Of the girls who had bad experiences, would you say that was down to meeting some bad individuals, or would you say it is confined to particular Gorean sims?

Rock

Rock

OK, they were rhetorical, but I will answer myself:

I believe the answers to those three questions are Yes, Yes, and Yes.

So that should answer your questions to me.


Rock

I would actually say it's down to meeting bad individuals as most sims understand it's all roleplay and real people behind the screen each having their own limits. I will say though that there is a difference between roleplay and lifestyle. I have heard about some lifestyle situations where the men will try to make demands on the slaves in RL. Please don't confuse that with roleplay or the many gorean roleplay sims.

Everywhere will have it's bad apples but usually in communities they are ousted pretty quick.

I will add, I hear so many women who play slaves and want the sex complaining they don't get 'furred' as really it is not the priority in most places.