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Melodie Darwin
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09-12-2009 12:47
Its pretty hard to say what will or won't appeal to someone until they try it for themselves. SC seems to have twice as much activity on it, just from searching new posts. I prefer there for content creating info, and SLU for everything else.

I lurked at SLU for a long time before registering, and am registered at SC but still lurking. I really hadn't spent any time online til finding my way to SL, so being in forums anywhere still has a bit of newness to me compared to many others. They really don't tend to be a one size fits all type thing, but they are what you make of them.
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Pussycat Catnap
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09-12-2009 12:50
When you're all referring to SC do you mean this place: http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/? ?
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09-12-2009 13:05
From: Treasure Ballinger
I like slapt.me too, but can't go into it from work due to the adult thingy at the front page of it. So I have to choose something more generic. Same reason I can't read forum member's blogs from work, that adult warning. I just made my first post on SLU, and have also signed up for SC. So, we'll see.......


You can avoid the front page by directly going here http://www.slapt.me/market/index.php to login as Pussycat says its just the disclaimer on the first page. None of the site is meta tagged as adult. The warning is more so people can't winge we have something that may or will offend them and haven't told them :) In fact being in Holland we do not need this disclaimer but put it there out of fairness for others.

HTH
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Lias Leandros
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Join date: 20 Jul 2005
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09-12-2009 13:10
From: Brenda Connolly
Instead of recommending or disrecommending a site, why not just mention it without the commentaries and let pople try it for themselves?
Because having someone walk into a pile-on or be subjected to personal attacks from complete strangers is not a nice thing to do.

I go along with the person that suggested you read a few of the threads before becoming a member. If you do not mind lolcat fights and nastiness then you can deal with SLU. I have found the new SC a more mature place - and that is saying alot since SC has Prok and the Woodburries in the same forum.

If these two opposing fractions can be civil (to a point), then the SC Forum is a safer place. I believe most of that comes from SC being a new forum and so we do not see the group-think that SLU has developed over the years.

Hopefully that dynamic will change once new folks come in. Cristiano has done alot to make some fun tools available for everyone. Hopefully he can reel in more of his more abusive regulars.
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Ciaran Laval
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09-12-2009 13:17
From: Lias Leandros
I go along with the person that suggested you read a few of the threads before becoming a member. If you do not mind lolcat fights and nastiness then you can deal with SLU. I have found the new SC a more mature place - and that is saying alot since SC has Prok and the Woodburries in the same forum.

If these two opposing fractions can be civil (to a point), then the SC Forum is a safer place. I believe most of that comes from SC being a new forum and so we do not see the group-think that SLU has developed over the years.

Hopefully that dynamic will change once new folks come in. Cristiano has done alot to make some fun tools available for everyone. Hopefully he can reel in more of his more abusive regulars.


Oh do behave Ms Leandros, you know damn well that you've been pushing boundaries over at SLU and contributing massively to that thread. Don't play all innocent on me.

However the advice on reading a few threads is good advice for any forum.
Lias Leandros
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09-12-2009 13:49
From: Ciaran Laval
Oh do behave Ms Leandros, you know damn well that you've been pushing boundaries over at SLU and contributing massively to that thread. Don't play all innocent on me.
Agreed. I suggest folks only post opposing view points there if they are ready for off-topic abuse and some personal attacks.

When a banned person is the subject of a thread I believe that person deserves a voice no matter what.
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Briana Dawson
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09-12-2009 13:50
From: Raymond Figtree
The only people I ever saw banned over there were folks who really deserved it. If the moderator was really as narrow-minded and hair-trigger as you say, the forum would have died long ago.

wrong x2.
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Briana Dawson
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09-12-2009 13:52
I think the full court press will eventually speak for it self.
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-12-2009 13:53
From: Lord Sullivan
You can avoid the front page by directly going here http://www.slapt.me/market/index.php to login as Pussycat says its just the disclaimer on the first page. None of the site is meta tagged as adult. The warning is more so people can't winge we have something that may or will offend them and haven't told them :) In fact being in Holland we do not need this disclaimer but put it there out of fairness for others.

HTH


Oh I'm not questioning the warning; I understand what it's for. Just saying that it alerts the techs at my job; the word Adult is flagged for them, they'll be alerted and I don't need that. Thanks for the url to skip the front page.
Ramonna Villota
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09-12-2009 14:15
Both boards have their fair share of drama both boards have incesttuous fetish on each other of past issues that will not ever let go.

Both have some great people and some s...heads depends on your taste.


http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/index.php
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09-12-2009 14:29
From: Treasure Ballinger
Oh I'm not questioning the warning; I understand what it's for. Just saying that it alerts the techs at my job; the word Adult is flagged for them, they'll be alerted and I don't need that. Thanks for the url to skip the front page.


Ah ok thanks for explaining :) We do have on the market place the catergory 'Adult' as well just so you know as I don't want you getting in trouble :)
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Raymond Figtree
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09-12-2009 14:51
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Ray, you have to bear in mind that you are gazing at this topic through the eyes of one of the popular folks over there. I've seen you bump heads, but your posts are still always sensible and fair. Not to embarrass you, but it's true. So your perspective will be somewhat different that someone not in the same position. :)
It's really hard to gauge popularity. I don't think of myself as one of the in crowd. But thanks for thinking of me in that way.

I just want everyone to find a good home. Don't really care where it is.
Charlemagne Allen
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Join date: 22 May 2008
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09-12-2009 15:07
From: Rhonda Huntress
/me wave.
Hi, Charlie.
We butted heads across the street before but I know exactly what you mean. It is almost Shakespearean.

"Double, double, toil and trouble.
Fire burn and cauldron bubble."

And that's all I have to say about that.


That's a good way of putting it. I'm trying to put these things in the past as well, and have pretty much succeeded in not dwelling on certain past unpleasantries. Not really worth it....
Treasure Ballinger
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09-12-2009 15:11
From: Lord Sullivan
Ah ok thanks for explaining :) We do have on the market place the catergory 'Adult' as well just so you know as I don't want you getting in trouble :)


Yes, and that's different. It's not something I have to click on, to signify that I understand I am entering an adult site. That's where the warning bells go off, in my tech dept. I'm cool with the way this is set up now that I'm registered, verified and 'in' the site, thanks.
Lewis Luminos
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09-12-2009 16:43
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Ray, you have to bear in mind that you are gazing at this topic through the eyes of one of the popular folks over there. I've seen you bump heads, but your posts are still always sensible and fair. Not to embarrass you, but it's true. So your perspective will be somewhat different that someone not in the same position. :)


But thats the way forums work. People who make sensible and fair posts will generally be accepted and welcomed into the community. People who post aggressive and trollish posts will be rejected or ridiculed.

I've been a regular at SLU for almost a year, and I joined SCII when it started up. Personally I still prefer SLU, because it's moderated. At SC, some people post deliberately trollish and antagonistic stuff because they know they can be as offensive as they want and they won't get banned. That makes for a less than relaxing environment. Watching Prok frothing at the mouth is funny though.
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Lias Leandros
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09-12-2009 16:51
I see the absolute opposite Lewis. And making cheap shots at Prok is a favorite pass time of the SLU regulars. Time to evolve.
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Lewis Luminos
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09-12-2009 17:05
From: Lias Leandros
I see the absolute opposite Lewis. And making cheap shots at Prok is a favorite pass time of the SLU regulars. Time to evolve.


There's a lot more people making cheap shots at Prok on the SC board since he signed up there.

And thats what I mean. The behaviour that I see on SC would get people rightly banned from SLU. I guess some people like a free-for-all, no-holds-barred environment. It's not my cup of tea.
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Lias Leandros
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09-12-2009 17:17
I do not see that happening on SC - since Prok can defend himself there if he wishes. Posting things like 'foaming at the mouth' here and in SLU about a person you know cannot respond to your cheap shot is unfair.

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Some Latino guy just got banned from SLU this evening. He had started a thread about some SL Stock Market that may have been good info. But he allowed himself to get side tracked and try to outwit the abusive lolcatz gang and that was his downfall.

Since the top poster over there took a nap it is not as bad as it was - but it could be so much better.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-12-2009 17:24
Oh Goody. Let's keep a running tally of the asshattery on the other forums...just like watching CNN. :rolleyes:
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Ann Otoole
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09-12-2009 17:38
Why is everyone all freaked out? the new forum posting rules apply here already you know.

All that is going to happen is you get a shiny new place with a different look and feel and different posting tools. You will have a forum avatar and a text sig in the new place which you do not currently have here. Xstreet participants lost sig images and active links. But firefox + linkification makes all the sig links work anyway unless they have dashes in the url.

As for alternatives? Well there are not only numerous alternatives but nothing is stopping any of you from grabbing a cheap web site deal and setting up the exceedingly simple to install and configure forum software and starting your own community.

It really isn't all doom and gloom. Unless you are just unable to live without being allowed to conduct personal attacks, defame, libel, and spam on LL hosted systems. All of that is not allowed inside the grid or on these or the new forums already so if that is all you live for you are in trouble I guess lmao. But for those folks one of the alternatives is ideal rofl.
Rhonda Huntress
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09-12-2009 17:53
Ann, you can have sigs with images and links here too. Go to your CP to turn them on and see.

With the new Flog, you do not have the option to turn sigs off. But it is ok since you can not post pics or links like they do here. One of the new features I guess.

And yes, you can make a clickable link here without greasemonkey.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-12-2009 18:04
From: Ann Otoole
All that is going to happen is you get a shiny new place with a different look and feel and different posting tools. You will have a forum avatar and a text sig in the new place which you do not currently have here.
Um, what? We already have forum avatars and text AND image sigs.

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Unless you are just unable to live without being allowed to conduct personal attacks, defame, libel, and spam on LL hosted systems.
How about, being able to see a list of recent followups to posts, being able to see just a page of messages at a time, having effective search tools, ... the list goes on.
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Ann Launay
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09-12-2009 18:23
From: Wildefire Walcott
but offensive and pornographic content are forbidden there. (Seriously.)

Not *quite* true. Linking with a NSFW notation is fine, it's posting such images inline that's an issue.

From: Morgan Genna
SLU is a business, tho.

No, it isn't. Cristiano has advertisers and subscribers to help defray SOME of his costs, but for the most part, he pays for everything out of his own pocket.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ann Otoole
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09-12-2009 18:33
From: Rhonda Huntress
Ann, you can have sigs with images and links here too. Go to your CP to turn them on and see.

With the new Flog, you do not have the option to turn sigs off. But it is ok since you can not post pics or links like they do here. One of the new features I guess.

And yes, you can make a clickable link here without greasemonkey.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2501/3914207190_c0355f445e.jpg

Oh well the text only sigs is actually good because it makes it impossible for people to embed images from which they can harvest IP addresses from image loads.

I can see people will have issues with not being allowed to post non SL related topics. And a minority will be absolutely livid they cannot hurl personal attacks from their well concealed anonymous internet connections on LL systems anymore. I guess Second Life is growing up at last. Especially considering we are only witnessing the initial phase of turning SL from a niche into a mainstream place where most people don't even know what a forum is and would be permanently turned away should they witness the way some people carry on in forums.

Given I am in the group that wishes to see a one million concurrency I support the difficult and unpopular amongst the early adopter changes that are going to happen despite the objections of the existing residents. I won't like all the changes either but I have been pushing for a 3D internet since 1996. It won't happen if it is limited to a niche of personality types.

Before you object to the increase in concurrency then consider what your content creation business will be like with 20 times the customers.

As for the mythical freedom of speech there are plenty of other venues for that.
Brenda Connolly
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09-12-2009 18:38
From: Ann Otoole
Oh well the text only sigs is actually good because it makes it impossible for people to embed images from which they can harvest IP addresses from image loads.

I can see people will have issues with not being allowed to post non SL related topics. And a minority will be absolutely livid they cannot hurl personal attacks from their well concealed anonymous internet connections on LL systems anymore. I guess Second Life is growing up at last. Especially considering we are only witnessing the initial phase of turning SL from a niche into a mainstream place where most people don't even know what a forum is and would be permanently turned away should they witness the way some people carry on in forums.

Given I am in the group that wishes to see a one million concurrency I support the difficult and unpopular amongst the early adopter changes that are going to happen despite the objections of the existing residents. I won't like all the changes either but I have been pushing for a 3D internet since 1996. It won't happen if it is limited to a niche of personality types.

Before you object to the increase in concurrency then consider what your content creation business will be like with 20 times the customers.

As for the mythical freedom of speech there are plenty of other venues for that.


There will be no content creation business when that happens. LL will have sold out to the corps who will decide who makes what.
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