Is Paying for Links in Profile Picks Cheating?

well said Cairan!

Traffic bots improve the traffic numbers, which improve the rankings in the Places tab. Picks improve the IBLs, which improve the rankings in the All search. Alright?

Exactly.....it came as an additional service that Organic Inc and the likes provided for their clients and that was SEO- "Search Engine Optimisation" That's what we did.....we built websites for Daimler Chrysler (our biggest client back then) for literally millions of USD's....on top of that we provided bolt-on services such as SEO. SEO would typically be on a retainer feee basis as it was on going.

I wish MK our CEO is reading this thread.......i think he'd be pissing himself laughing particularly at Chip's niaive view on SE's- rofl

chip, you are discussing matters of honor with those who do not have capacity to share in it (too bad)... just leave them alone to piss over each other.

The problem lies with you I think...tell me what the title of this thread is?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't see Traffic Bots listed there.......there is however a Bots thread running elsewhere.

As far as the "Picks" element of your argument.....i suggest searching out Chris Norse post on this thread, the answer lies there. From my own tests...i kind of agree what was concluded or stated.

So the thread has moved on.....we are strictly discussing about optimisation of ALL search engines. The argument from Yuki is that Phil is withholding information deemed as secrets of how to improve search listings.

Please keep up, the discussion has moved on!! Picks as they stand now, probably has very little effect on ALL search results anymore. What was happening 6 mths ago does not apply now.

Well, if anyone was going to sue them I would argue it should be Google (since they have "copied" the knowledge from the source code via reverse engineering). But the point is, do we want SL to go that way? A virtual world where a payment of US$100,000 is necessary to be noticed - if you didn't have the right job before them?

What we need in SL is a mechanism for removing the need for SEO at all. One suggestion could be this: when a user searches and then teleports to a parcel, they gain L$ equal to the number the parcel was on the search. If it was 1st place, they gain L$1, but if it was 100th place they gain L$100.

Search All was added before the change in CEO. And, just because you don't have a "god given right" to something, doesn't mean you shouldn't have it!

Why? On SLEx, you are automatically..



Why can't having the off-the-shelf Google application be a bad idea?

Tell that to our current CEO then, as Organic Inc generated millions of dollars of revenue for providing clients Search Engine Optimisation services. LMAO

you really don't read all the posts do you.? I suggested that it would not surprise me if current CEO made a recommendation to the ex-CEO about a search appliance prior to his appointment.

The fact that a CEO might be without honor wouldn't exactly be the shock of the century.

LL chose not to have SLEX search engine.......go complain to them!

LL chose this Google style Search Engine........go complain to them!

The people on this forums are only the users.

Well if you deem him not to have honor or your ethics......would you leave the building then.....like permanently?

Actually, the Lindens do read these forums, too. Plus, it wouldn't mean the users can't correct their mistake.

No, but you might have to work at it.......you know, like testing keywords and stuff!

The fact that LL invested so much time and money on this current system, its highly unlikely they would bin it and start again. They have bigger issues to focus on ..like Grid stability for one.

Even if by some miracle they would....it's highly likely that the same people will be back here on another thread in another time....complaining again!

It appears that anything short of random order will not make some people happy. But then we are back to the word cloud of irrelevant keywords, so that on the off chance people will find your place because you stuck the keyword in there...

I'll take the new system, just modify down the importance of picks.

I think that has already been done Cristalle. I think quietly in the background LL have downgraded the importance of picks as an IBL. My own recent tests seems to back that up. Of course LL will never tell you that.....and so they shouldn't.

If indeed Picks is next to irrelavant, then a lot of people who are paying for those picks are pissing money into the wind for the unforseeable future.

You can always remove search altogether and let word of mouth take over .

The two sides of search are always going to run contrary to one another. Someone who uses search has very different priorities from someone who wants the highest possible exposure by whatever means.

As far as removing the need for SEO, it's not going to happen as long as it's based on GSA. I'd personally just take a page out of Google's book and introduce keyword bidding and have those fill the entire first page and half the rest of the page starting with page 2. If you want to game your way to the top it'll end up costing a pretty penny because of all the click-throughs so in practice everyone has a shot at being featured on the first page, if only in rotation.

Except that GSAs are generally protected against keyword padding.

what are you talking about? Who's talking about keyword padding.?
Why are you forever going off in tangents?

Content Optimization is an important part of SEO as it is one of the best ways to get quality traffic to your site through search engines. It is an ethical and organic way of increasing your search engine positions....the same that applies to SL All Search engine

There is optimization and then there is manipulation.

OKAY!!!!!

So traffic bots are avatar-presence spamming/stuffing of the search engine.
Pick buying is IBL spamming/stuffing of the search engine.

It's no different to keyword spamming/stuffing in principle.

But then, despite search engines delisting sites when keyword spamming is detected and the practice being described be e.g. Wikipedia as an unethical search engine optimization (SEO) technique, you say that it is ok to spam search engines.


"Unethical" - there's that word again, and not just used by some tiny/huge vocal/silent minority/majority.

One of the things Google lists in its article about SEO's as an unethical practice is "gets traffic from "fake" search engines, spyware, or scumware." I'd say "scumware" is an apt description for fake traffic generating traffic bots.

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