just ignore and let this one die

that's a whole 'nother subject entirely.

Have fun!



Actually I'm not very good at jokes. Some people find me very funny sometimes but most people wonder what I'm trying to say. No I'm not a Witness. Several people who I like and admire are and they don't celebrate birthdays and holidays. It's an aspect of their faith that I sometimes find mildly horrifying but at other times kind of appealing.

Can't right at the moment dear. Hopefully in a little while.

i just attended a JW funeral last weekend. they really never mentioned the fellow who was being buried, and at the end of it i thought they were going to invite us down to be baptized... because all they did was preach and try to convert.

very odd. and uncomfortable.

never! keep going!

Amar, i just saw your flickr with the oak tree leaves.

ooh la la

let's make a date!

Damien's Garden may turn into the Garden of Paradise ... hmm.. me thinks Mother Eve might make a neat costume...


Re the JW- they are highly moral people over all- so much so it is cloying- I was thusly afflicted in my youth hence the issues and my absolute cure of religion, and some would say, of morals .

JW = high morals or low morals (in comparison to whatever is 'the norm')?

I knew I liked you.

Hia everyone. Everyone have a good weekend?

/me is walking out the door to go xmas shopping.

spent saturday changing my closet out from the summer clothes to the winter clothes, and bagging up stuff i wont wear. *boring*

but the kitties were having fun with it!

Just depends on your definition of "moral". Morality to me is not beating your 4 children every single day even thou 3 were straight A students. This was done because the bible said not to spare the rod. Moral to me is the opposite of a child never learning any social skills because we were not really ever supposed to socialize with other children except to pass out Watchtower and Awakes. JW's are as close as you can get to being in a cult, without being in an actual cult. Our mother gave us a whole childhood of that JW crap and I have not spoken to her in 10 years. There will be no tears shed when she dies. It took me took me 20 years to exorcise the demons introduced by what some call a religion.

Sorry for the interruption, I now return you to my usual high levels of levity.

In RL, I don't swap the closet anymore - I keep a smaller wardrobe (of course, I do have a walking closet, so I did not have to limit it too much).

To make up for my small rant I now bring you this:

http://pythonline.com/

Well Jesse- u def had it worse than i then- I just didnt get the parties- no xmas no halloween etc. I did have to associate with other brain washed sorts thank fully they decided they no longer wanted me and i escaped. No- my parents were not abusive just shoved religion down my throat- so i rebelled and here u see the end result. Close to a cult? No they are a cult- there are many survivor support groups out there- I just never had it so bad - I am truly sorry for the pain that caused you.

My friends barely mention their religion to me.



and they are very good to their children. Thank goodness you finally escaped, with your mind in tact, Jesse. and Amara too.




There wa no need to make up for anything. But everyone can use more Monte Python.

Good Morning to Everyone,

I thought I would amalgamate my responses and thanks to you all in one go as the thread has moved on again (so fast last night) and I have no desire to gnaw this particular bone any longer.

*hugs* Not too late at all as Brenda says further down, thank you very much for this.

Perhaps you are right and I have attributed more sinister motives than exist. I think it is because I tend to come up with scenarios to exaplin things like this and then discard the obviously improbable ones. What I am left with tends to get mentally assigned a probability and that kind of leads my thinking. It is entirely possible I have missed a likely scenario that would innocently explain it all.

This is why I came here for advice, I knew you and the others here would give me valuable points of view I was unable to appreciate before

No need to apologise for asking, my initial desire was to IM them and ask them "WTH They were doing at my place" but I realised that would not solve much and in the end I asked myself if I really wanted to deal with them again so soon and the answer I came up with was a resounding "No".

Kaimi said it even better than I could, thanks again

Thanks 3Ring, I have decided not to mute them unless that channel becomes a problem with them but the ban will have to stay in place for the moment at least until I next get inworld. I'll see how I feel about it then, you raised a good point about alts that I had not considered.

Hey no problems! Actually I really did finally put it behind me.

I wasn't really sure I had put it behind me until I finally had my daughter. I put it off until the final ticks of my biological clock, fearing I would "pass it on". My daughter is now 12 years old, is wonderfully adjusted with many friends, is in the Advanced Math & Science program in school. All of this and she has never, ever had a hand laid on her. If something is wrong we simply talk.

It's often futile to try and ascribe motives that make sense to what people do. But you don't want to forget entirely that they really could be out to get you.

Congratulations Damien

Congrats and I hope you don't get into too much trouble.

I don't find FD incomprehensible at all, are you sure you are trying to understand? Where there is a will there is a way!

Damn, that would make a great siggy for someone ty

Someone with more patience than I have once said that life was too short to stuff a tomato . . .

Pep (The implication of your comment suggests that you *also* find 3Ring incomprehensible! LOL)

Not at all, you have read more into what I wrote than was actually there.

3Ring is perfectly comprehensible to me also.

Hint: There is only space between the lines.

What is this about? FD and 3 are crystal clear - who is having problems understanding them? Maybe we need to get them a Threadtionary! If anyone can understand me tho.. please let me in on it

I understand you only too well, as you know, Amaranthim - but there is no point in trying to help you as you have put me on "ignore".

Pep (Someone could quote me, I suppose . . .)