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Katheryne Helendale
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Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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05-26-2009 14:59
Awwww, that's too cute! _____________________
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Maya Remblai
The one with pink hair.
Join date: 25 Mar 2006
Posts: 434
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05-26-2009 17:45
I was pretty sure I was a woman before now.
 - Real women cannot build - Real women cannot script I have a successful business involving building avatars. I write all my scripts myself, and have started dabbling in C++. - Real women are not furries or neko's Haven't made a neko av yet, but most of mine are furries. I'm not into the "lifestyle" thing though. - Real women cannot be tech savvy I picked out the parts for my current computer. My dad put them together because I was a bit afraid to though, because I had never seen a motherboard installed. - Real women WILL voice or cam verify I'll voice verify if I feel like it, but I'll be annoyed by the request. - Real women do not carry weapons I AM a weapon!  Sometimes I wander around with C I swords and such, not often though.- Real women are not violent Does cartoon violence count? - Real women do not like Anime - Real women do not use Anime emoticons I have the whole first season of Sonic X with subtitles, and most of Digimon Adventure and Digimon Adventure 02 subtitled on my external hard drive! ^_^ |
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Allegria Kanto
Trailing clouds of glory
Join date: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 1,004
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05-26-2009 17:54
I've a serious bone to pick with someone here, and I don't care who knows it. I've become addicted to ferret photos. Argent, would you kindly find and post some that are a lot less cute? Ah thankyew kindly. ^ What she said! I love the ferret photos... _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-26-2009 18:05
What she said! I love the ferret photos...  _____________________
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Virrginia Tombola
Equestrienne
Join date: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 938
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05-26-2009 18:08
I think I'm still following this thread because of the ferret pictures <3
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 04:03
It's funny, I just enabled avatar pics and signatures, and have been reading the confessions thread. I had imagined half the people on here in my mind as the opposite sex that they are anyway.
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Gummi Richthofen
Fetish's Frasier Crane!
Join date: 3 Oct 2006
Posts: 605
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05-27-2009 05:11
but that's the whole point - av pictures here don't have to be of the SL av of the poster (though I can see a very strong argument for that being the case... photobooth at the Forum Cartel Hangout, anyone?).
I do think it's illustrative of a certain negative mindset that rather than seeing SL as a near-ideal way for people who suffer from excessive gender polarity to get an easy look at the other side of the fence, instead we just get schoolyard whingeing about "the other guys". Perhaps a sign of EGP (I'm gonna copyright that term!) is that it's always Everyone Else's Problem... |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 07:15
but that's the whole point - av pictures here don't have to be of the SL av of the poster (though I can see a very strong argument for that being the case... photobooth at the Forum Cartel Hangout, anyone?). I do think it's illustrative of a certain negative mindset that rather than seeing SL as a near-ideal way for people who suffer from excessive gender polarity to get an easy look at the other side of the fence, instead we just get schoolyard whingeing about "the other guys". Perhaps a sign of EGP (I'm gonna copyright that term!) is that it's always Everyone Else's Problem... I don't see the problem with or with out knowing. Well I didn't have one. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-27-2009 07:38
It's funny, I just enabled avatar pics and signatures, and have been reading the confessions thread. I had imagined half the people on here in my mind as the opposite sex that they are anyway. _____________________
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 07:57
I guess some sex is just more opposite than others. To me, it didn't make any difference. I was just surprised. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-27-2009 08:01
To me, it didn't make any difference. I was just surprised. _____________________
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 08:04
What's the point of setting up a straight line like that, I ask you? No hard point, just a comment. _____________________
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 2,542
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05-27-2009 08:05
It's funny, I just enabled avatar pics and signatures, and have been reading the confessions thread. I had imagined half the people on here in my mind as the opposite sex that they are anyway. I don't think I have a pic in signature....that feature is very distracting to me, so I keep it off. But Ian....in all fairness to Pep, in that thread.....his Alt is going after a Female. |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 08:07
I don't think I have a pic in signature....that feature is very distracting to me, so I keep it off. But Ian....in all fairness to Pep, in that thread.....his Alt is going after a Female. I think your talking about the violence thread? I wasn't keeping up with that aspect, I was zoned on other areas. _____________________
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 2,542
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05-27-2009 08:13
I think your talking about the violence thread? I wasn't keeping up with that aspect, I was zoned on other areas. No...but yes, you're on to something there.  |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 08:19
No...but yes, you're on to something there. Lol. Well there are a lot of threads with Pep on about something in them. Anyway, it's just a comment on the way we don't really know what sex someone is on here. _____________________
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Mickey Vandeverre
See you Inworld
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 2,542
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05-27-2009 08:22
Lol. Well there are a lot of threads with Pep on about something in them. Anyway, it's just a comment on the way we don't really know what sex someone is on here. Don't worry about it....just trying to help Pep maintain his reputation. |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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05-27-2009 08:24
Don't worry about it....just trying to help Pep maintain his reputation. Np _____________________
Playin' Perky Pat
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Vania Chaplin
Registered User
Join date: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 125
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05-27-2009 08:29
(...) What do you all think of these sort of stereotypes? (...) Just that: they are stereotypes, little or nothing to do with reality  |
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Feldspar Millgrove
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Join date: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 372
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05-27-2009 10:57
Sentences that start with "all X" are usually wrong However some facts about an avatar tend to increase the possibility of them being guys in disguise. And usually, I am never wrong with my guess. Those facts are, in random order:- uses linux (I am still to meet ONE SINGLE woman who uses linux) - they talk lots and LOTS about PC games when asked (very useful trap *lol*) - intimate knowledge of PC hardware, prices, setup, technical issues, knows their video card model without looking it up etc. There aren't many women interested in that kind of stuff. - scripter (I don't know any female, good scripters out there. However I tend to disagree about building/other graphics design. Many females do that.) I think the suggestion that women don't have computer skills is absurd. At just one major university near me, there are currently 3,792 women enrolled (36%), and every one of them uses Linux (the standard OS there). Many of them are programmers. I have a friend from Second Life who lives near me and I have met in RL. She teaches scripting classes in SL. (She doesn't use Linux though, and is not a programmer IRL.) She knows her video card because she bought it specifically to upgrade her PC for playing SL. (I on the other hand have no idea what video card I've got.) She also plays a first-person shooter video game all the time. Another female friend on SL, who I have spoken with over Voice but doesn't live near me, is a builder but not technical -- she plays other video games a lot. I don't play any video games, Is it that they are not "real women", or that I am not a real man? LOL Some of the other things that have been mentioned like pronoun slipups are accurate though. I believe I can often tell when someone is gender swapping (maybe I'm deluded), but mostly I don't pay much attention to it. |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-27-2009 11:00
Is it that they are not "real women", or that I am not a real man? LOL  _____________________
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Maggy Hazelnut
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Join date: 14 Dec 2008
Posts: 76
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05-27-2009 11:42
What sort of gender stereotypes do you ascribe to if any at all? It seems that there is an attitude among certain male posters in this forum that if one "claims" to be female, and yet believes "A, B, or C", then she is clearly male and a poseur. In 2003-2005 this was common in world with certain preconceived ideas like: - Real women cannot build - Real women cannot script - Real women are not furries or neko's - Real women cannot be tech savvy Recently, I have seen people say things like: - Real women do not like "X" sexual activity(ies) - Real women do not seek out sex - Real women do not watch porn - Real women are not attracted to violent sexual activites/RP (in varying degrees) - Real women WILL voice or cam verify - Real women do not carry weapons - Real women are not violent - Real women do not like Anime - Real women do not use Anime emoticons ============================ What do you all think of these sort of stereotypes? Do any of them hold a sliver of truth to them? Do any of them have truth to them in the year 2009? Do you believe in any of these? Or have you once believed in any of these? If so, which one(s) and why? First of all I'm a "real woman" - - I'm a buyer, not a builder or scripter but I know know many women who do both. - I'm not a furry or neko but know women who are both of these. - I'm not very tech savvy but know women who are very tech savvy. - I love sexual activities both in RL & SL. - I seek out sex. - I watch porn & enjoy it. - I am attracted to some violent sexual activities/RP. - I will voice but don't have a cam & won't get one to satisfy someone else. - I do carry weapons sometimes both in RL & SL. - I can be violent or very tender & loving. - I don't give a shit about Anime. P.S. - I think Pep & Chris Norse are hot! |
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Benski Trenkins
Free speech for the dumb
Join date: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 547
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05-27-2009 12:02
sl- they rarely change clothes. I indeed rarely change my look and outfit, but has more to do with the fact that I find there is not much to find for men. sl- favours women with beachball-sized breasts and pencil-legs. I prefer the natural beauty in both RL as SL, not the skinny legs and silicon attachments. And I actually choose by character rather than looks. sl- thinks about cybersex a lot. Cyberwhat? sl- is willing to cam/voice. Voice makes it easier for me to talk with my girl (saves us a huge phonebill) but I never would ask someone to voice or cam to proof something. sl/rl- lack taste and/or refinement (unless gay). I like to believe I have taste and refinement, and I am straight. sl/rl- have little appreciation for art or culture (unless gay). Depends on the form of art, and I do apreceate culture (and my sexual preference has not changed since my previous statement of being straight) rl- cannot cook (despite nearly every kitchen ive ever worked in being male dominated). Most women don't let me near kitchen appliances, due to explosion hazard if I touch them rl- are domestically helpless, unable/unwilling to clean, do laundry, etc. Admits to not always recognize things needed to be done, but very willing to do my part. There is one thing, that might be considered here that I absolutely would agree to: I have a hard time multitasking. I heard that might be result of evolution, some studies seem to show that, but I simply know that if that is a stereotype, I surely fit that category. _____________________
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Seven Okelli
last days of pompeii
Join date: 4 Dec 2008
Posts: 2,300
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05-27-2009 12:05
P.S. - I think Pep & Chris Norse are hot! Watch out there Maggy, or you will lose your "Hazel" . _____________________
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Lewis Luminos
Ginger
Join date: 13 Aug 2008
Posts: 218
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05-27-2009 12:09
There is one thing, that might be considered here that I absolutely would agree to: I have a hard time multitasking. I heard that might be result of evolution, some studies seem to show that, but I simply know that if that is a stereotype, I surely fit that category. Thought of another one - I'm very good at reading maps, but when I do get lost I always ask for directions. _____________________
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