Gender stereotypes in SL: "Real" women

Shouldn't the glasses be blue and pink instead of blue and red?

Then why do they keep on badgering us men to marry them then?

Pep (Why don't they leave us alone if they really want to think for themselves.)

You must be more handsome than me, Pep, I've never been badgered for marriage, commitment yes but not marriage. Thing is, and I'm not unfaithful or adverse to commitment, but it's the pressure to commit that takes the fun out of it, kind of turning it more to a deal rather than a friendship.

Handsomeness doesn't come into it.

Pep (Money does )

Maybe, but yeh, it's some kind of deal for sure.

But Monotype is a font foundry!

I thought that Monotype was gay sex???

Stereotypes are always very easy to justify...

A typical example works through selective memory.

A-types will see other As as individuals, remembering them individually by characteristics other than the fact that they are an A. A will notice that B-types are not As however, and therefore remember them as a B rather than by other characteristics which may or may not be similar or different.

A thinks all B-type drivers are reckless, having been cut off by three B-types in the last day or so on the freeway. What A selectively forgets is the hundreds of B's that A failed to notice because A had no interactions with them. Likewise, A sees other A-types as individuals -that somebody- rather than as A-types, and so fails to realize that 3 other people that cut A off on that same time period were A-types.

Result, A comes away with a bias against Bs. It gets backed up when A socializes with other A-types who use the same selective memory process and they end up with thousands of anecdotes, all of them ignoring the millions of non-cases they fail to have happen every day with the B-types around them... and all failing to build such a false-pattern when situations occurs with other As.

Add an additional element: A-types are in power in the society, and B-types are a minority in terms of power (if not numbers as well - but being a 'Minority' is about empowerment and not population). As a result, in the society sources of media are generally tailored around A-types. Even when made by B-types, they are backed by and reviewed by people educated under A-type norms. As a result, even B-type produced media reinforces A-type assumptions. This leads to a situation where even B-types judge each other through the framework of being a B-type, and see A-types not as A-types, but as people with characteristics beyond just being an A-type. B-types are often not consciously aware of this, but instead react with some hostility to B-types that fail to act as a B-type... Thereby creating a feedback cycle that attempts to force the stereotype onto people. Even if the the vast majority of B-types don't exhibit the stereotype, they will still start to assume other B-types do, as their filters are being set by A-type normative control of media.

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You can go into just about any society in the world with more than one ethnicity, or more than one gender, or more than one social class, and put the people 'on top' into A and everyone else into B and the above will 'explain what's going down' as well as enable you to see the false stereotypes for what they are.

I used to know an old guy who said there are only two nationalities in the world - British and Foreign!!!!!

I guess you'll find Americans, French, Chinese or Russian people who have the same outlook.

Quite, I've met many Americans willing to admit that they're not British.

This man must be Pserendipity Daniels aka "Pep" then

P(ee)p (British pffffffffffff)

You're not anyone's teacher here, so stuff it, mongo. Don't presume to tell people why they use this forum.

Quit pretending your incessant attacks are outcome oriented. The only reason you do it is because you have compensation issues. As if you're priggishness has any impact on the readability of these forums besides slowing things down by constantly picking fights.

P(ee)p ( )

Had a bad day at the office? Feeling inferior? Desperate to lash out irrationally? Why don't you take our 10 minute amateur psychiatrist course and produce instant analyses of people you barely know, and try to get rich quick selling your semi-ignorance to others who might be impressed by garbled associations of words selected randomly out of our buzzword list.

Pep (Oriented means facing eastwards; you mean orientated; don't worry, most geeks including Bill Gates make the same mistake.)

Hi Pepper

In their defense:

3. To align or position with respect to a point or system of reference: oriented the telescope toward the moon; oriented her interests toward health care.
4. To determine the bearings of.
5. To make familiar with or adjusted to facts, principles, or a situation.
6. To focus (the content of a story or film, for example) toward the concerns and interests of a specific group.
v.intr.
1. To turn toward the east.
2. To become adjusted or aligned.

One of my personal pet peeves is when people say "orientated" unnecessarily. Oriented is often the proper word choice.

About women "pestering" men so hotly to marry them - in which century? All I can say if that is the case is perhaps those women have not yet tried the institution.

I think this is a UK/US English difference: Americans say "oriented" where Brits would say "orientated".

And some people are just occident prone.

Hee.

spinster: A lot of people in the States say "orientated" actually. I cringe the same way I do if a news announcer says "nuke-u-lar." (Although technically it might be okay, it still sounds like a made-up word to me.)

Interesting ... although I have never heard a Brit say "oriented" unless they actually mean "turned towards the east". How do you cope with the noun, "orientation"?

"nuke-u-lar" IS a made up word, surely? How do you get that pronunciation from n-u-c-l-e-a-r? Mind you, people from the States pronounce aluminium as "aLOOminum" too, so ... I dunno

I love language and I think it's fascinating how different spellings and pronunciations (and meanings) evolve.

anyway, back on topic ... stereotypes (these are drawn more from RL than SL) ...

Stereotypes about "real" women (none of these apply to me - they are all false ) ...
real women love shopping
real women talk incessantly
real women can't read maps
real women don't drink pints


Stereotypes about "real" men (these are all 100% true )

real men like things with wheels on
real men like things they can throw or kick
real men like poking things in holes
real men ... um ... actually, that is all you will ever need to know about them

*smiles* Well, it's not a *phobia.* I cope just fine. Lol. Orientation (as a word) is always used as it's supposed to be, though.



Yes it (nuke-u-lar) is. I was being a bit silly. And, hey. We spell it aluminum also. So it makes sense to pronounce it that way. Lol



Me too.



I *like* shopping, although it was always more of a social thing - even if shopping singly it was mostly for gifts. I don't talk much. I can't read a map well. Well obviously I can *read* it but I'm not great at judging distances (insert 'objects larger than they appear' joke here.) I don't drink. It tastes bad.

Administer + ation -> administration.

Administer + ed -> Administered.

NOT Administrated.

I use Linux, and I'm a girl!

Though... I don't use it as my primary OS. That might make a difference, eh?

Woah, can we meet in SL so I can say "I have met a girl that uses linux"!!

Actually I have used it too, but I wouldn't want it as my regular OS.

Supposedly there's going to be a new netbook soon using Linux, according to the news radio I listen to on my commute (I think CBS...? I migrate between them and NPR).

That will likely result in a lot more Linux people - as it will be targeted in the under 300 range, maybe even under 100 (most of the cost of a computer these days is paying off M$ for a Windows license). Netbooks are very handy if you just want to facebook / twitter / shop / watch videos / do homework. So you might find Linux picking up in the teen and college crowds.

Linux and Mac are basically the same OS... with different GUIs (Macintosh is, I think BSD Unix, and Linux is a Unix clone). So if the new netbook has a friendly GUI like Mac does, the perception of Linux as something requiring dangly-bits to use might change.