Mythology and religion is more or less the same thing -_-
Religion is built upon mythology, but they aren't the same thing. One are concepts and raw ideas, the other is methodology and practice.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 20:10
Mythology and religion is more or less the same thing -_- Religion is built upon mythology, but they aren't the same thing. One are concepts and raw ideas, the other is methodology and practice. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 20:18
Yes Nazi symbols and unifrorms are offensive to the entire population of the Earth. The only exceptions are the Nazis themselves who took great pride in their display of genetic damaged persons (themselves). But who am I to critisize a group who were proud of their barely functioning brains? Mmmm. Sweet, sweet black and white. Where everything is simple. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Susie Boffin
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10-31-2007 20:22
Simple is good. Thinking kills. If you don't agree with me then intellectualize
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Kyrah Abattoir
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10-31-2007 20:23
Mmmm. Sweet, sweet black and white. Where everything is simple. I love when peoples sort things in two buckets, normal/abnormal while making a total abstraction of their own dysfunctionalities. _____________________
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10-31-2007 20:27
Religion is built upon mythology, but they aren't the same thing. One are concepts and raw ideas, the other is methodology and practice. True. There is another aspect to religion - the level of doctrine and dogma. You might think of it as religious ideology - and in fact some of the major ideological movements we saw in the 20th Century can be and have been understood as secular religions, in the worst sense of the word. It is zealots putting doctrine and dogma into action that have given religion a bad name in some quarters, and killed so many people in the name of some Ultimate Truth revealed in their dogmatic texts, be they "religious" revelation or "secular" thoughts of some Maximum Leader. |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:12
Sigh.
I get so sick and tired of having to come back to the same central point. It is irrelevant whether any individual person thinks any of LL's policies are "dumb" if they are based on compliance with laws anywhere in the world. It also doesn't matter if you disagree with the practice that some countries have of banning the symbolism. Why people can't understand that RL consequences exist in reality baffles me. Also, on a side note, that imagery has already been distorted from it's origins by it's usage - it continues to this day to inspire racist thug morons and if for no other reason than that I personally don't care that it is banned from use. As to censorship ... why not consider that your everyday life is censored for you right now by governments around the world who do not tell the truth to their population. Imagine the anarchy that would ensue if people were told the stark truth every day ... and that's assuming that each person could HANDLE the truth. Alicia, I am sorry to hear of your family history and sorry that a thread like this has developed and given you cause to feel such anger. I am only apologising in the abstract, in sympathy. |
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10-31-2007 21:16
Umm, say what? o
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:18
Yes Nazi symbols and unifrorms are offensive to the entire population of the Earth. The only exceptions are the Nazis themselves who took great pride in their display of genetic damaged persons (themselves). But who am I to critisize a group who were proud of their barely functioning brains? OK I have to bite. I didn't want to but I have to ![]() Such a bunch of freakshows would: a) Have had no chance at all if they were not in a country utterly devastated by war repatriations and then devastated again when America's Depression started, meaning that those good time loans were suddenly called in, fast. Hyperinflation, and massive misery and poverty, created a desperation which meant that any solution which stopped people from dying in the street was grasped at. b) Also would not have happened had not so very many good and able men been killed in WW 1. On which note I am going back to bed! |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:20
Umm, say what? o ![]() Not very clear ... sorry ... I am re-reading. When I say distorted by it's usage I mean as Nazi symbolism ... the origins of the Swastika, for instance, being originally a Hindu fertility symbol if I remember correctly. And the SS symbol comes from the Runes. |
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Susie Boffin
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10-31-2007 21:23
OK I have to bite. I didn't want to but I have to ![]() Such a bunch of freakshows would: a) Have had no chance at all if they were not in a country utterly devastated by war repatriations and then devastated again when America's Depression started, meaning that those good time loans were suddenly called in, fast. Hyperinflation, and massive misery and poverty, created a desperation which meant that any solution which stopped people from dying in the street was grasped at. b) Also would not have happened had not so very many good and able men been killed in WW 1. On which note I am going back to bed! Who cares? They slaughtered 6 million people because of their beliefs. _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:27
Who cares? They slaughtered 6 million people because of their beliefs. Thinking keeps the brain active, providing vital blood flow, thinking ensures that new synapses are formed. In short, helps to prevent the onset of age related brain degeneration. Night people xxx |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 21:28
Sigh. I get so sick and tired of having to come back to the same central point. It is irrelevant whether any individual person thinks any of LL's policies are "dumb" if they are based on compliance with laws anywhere in the world. It also doesn't matter if you disagree with the practice that some countries have of banning the symbolism. Actually, this isn't true. If it was, a shiatton more things in SL would be illegal than they are. Something is not verboten in SL just because it's illegal in some country somewhere. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Chris Norse
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10-31-2007 21:29
OK I have to bite. I didn't want to but I have to ![]() Such a bunch of freakshows would: a) Have had no chance at all if they were not in a country utterly devastated by war repatriations and then devastated again when America's Depression started, meaning that those good time loans were suddenly called in, fast. Hyperinflation, and massive misery and poverty, created a desperation which meant that any solution which stopped people from dying in the street was grasped at. b) Also would not have happened had not so very many good and able men been killed in WW 1. On which note I am going back to bed! QFT _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:29
Actually, this isn't true. If it was, a shiatton more things in SL would be illegal than they are. Something is not verboten in SL just because it's illegal in some country somewhere. Till it is found, complained about and the FBI crack down about it. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 21:31
Who cares? They slaughtered 6 million people because of their beliefs. Far more than that, actually, considering their beliefs plunged all of Europe as well as most of Asia, parts of Africa, America, etc into war along with them. Doesn't mean you can boil anything down to something so simple as "Them bad. Us good." _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Chris Norse
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10-31-2007 21:31
Till it is found, complained about and the FBI crack down about it. Actually in the States, most of these Nutzi groups have a high percentage of Feds and Fed informers in them already. _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 21:33
Till it is found, complained about and the FBI crack down about it. The FBI isn't going to crack down on things in SL because they are illegal in Iran or Saudi Arabia or Germany or England or wherever. The authorities in those countries could try to prevent LL from doing business there, but that's another story. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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i agree and im sick of this
10-31-2007 21:35
ok you psuedo intellectuals enough is enough wanna debate semantics then go ahead but to condone what the post was about in the first place only shows what humans are mostly are idiots nothing more so go ahead and debate what morality structure your society comes from and condone allowing that person to make profit in sl from nazi related clothing that anyone can buy and wear, and feel smug in the knowledge that you have let another person do exactly what our forefathers said we shouldn't do and that was never forget and allow these ppl fall under the radar, if it was for purely non profit and museum.educational purpose yes then go ahead as long as its condonded by lindens but if not then BAN HIS ASS as he is creating fuel for fire that is wrong and is seen in my country any way as tools of race hate crime what that person is doing. so go ahead rip my arguement apart with your intelectual musings and banal arguements,ppl asked for this post to be stopped and it hasn't i. this is the first time i have posted on the forums but after seeing what passes for brains here i think it will be my last,neo nazism and race hate crimes are on the increase in europe so go ahead mock laugh,but it will come and bite you on the ass when a minority group sees or hears of this crap being posted here and uses at LL as a baseball bat to gain attention in america.and with this place getting bigger and bigger its getting more and more noticed they will do that,so if we don't act against this type of crap for our own good then we have no one else to blame but ourselves cuz we didnt speak against it and when we get our asses handed to us on a plate cuz of idiots who can't think in the wider terms that free speech has responsibilties as well not as a tool to do what you want even the american courts know that ffs! so lets be grown ups and read the tos and act against that type of crap and get on with cybering and ban his ass before the world notices us and shuts us down cuz of idiots like that.
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:36
Actually in the States, most of these Nutzi groups have a high percentage of Feds and Fed informers in them already. LOL Damn it I should go back to bed! Actually I also should say about the word "Compliance" there Reitsuki ... I am very tired and not firing right at all. The word compliance is meant in the applied sense as in that if LL have been made aware that they HAVE to comply, it makes no difference what people think of it, they have to do it. And by people I mean LL themselves, probably, about some things. Agree actually - a shit ton of other things would indeed be illegal. Let's hope people can just keep their sticky beaks to themselves about anything minor ... I for one would find a PG Second Life no life at all. |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:38
ok you psuedo intellectuals enough is enough wanna debate semantics then go ahead but to condone what the post was about in the first place only shows what humans are mostly are idiots nothing more so go ahead and debate what morality structure your society comes from and condone allowing that person to make profit in sl from nazi related clothing that anyone can buy and wear, and feel smug in the knowledge that you have let another person do exactly what our forefathers said we shouldn't do and that was never forget and allow these ppl fall under the radar, if it was for purely non profit and museum.educational purpose yes then go ahead as long as its condonded by lindens but if not then BAN HIS ASS as he is creating fuel for fire that is wrong and is seen in my country any way as tools of race hate crime what that person is doing. so go ahead rip my arguement apart with your intelectual musings and banal arguements,ppl asked for this post to be stopped and it hasn't i. this is the first time i have posted on the forums but after seeing what passes for brains here i think it will be my last,neo nazism and race hate crimes are on the increase in europe so go ahead mock laugh,but it will come and bite you on the ass when a minority group sees or hears of this crap being posted here and uses at LL as a baseball bat to gain attention in america.and with this place getting bigger and bigger its getting more and more noticed they will do that,so if we don't act against this type of crap for our own good then we have no one else to blame but ourselves cuz we didnt speak against it and when we get our asses handed to us on a plate cuz of idiots who can't think in the wider terms that free speech has responsibilties as well not as a tool to do what you want even the american courts know that ffs! so lets be grown ups and read the tos and act against that type of crap and get on with cybering and ban his ass before the world notices us and shuts us down cuz of idiots like that. Nice first post. Passionate. See post 2 in this thread, by me, hoping this thread would not develop in the first place. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 21:38
ok you psuedo intellectuals enough is enough wanna debate semantics then go ahead but to condone what the post was about in the first place only shows what humans are mostly are idiots The original post in this thread was about a video game. What thread are you reading? _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Chris Norse
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10-31-2007 21:41
Typing...........words............words...... It is called a shift key, it makes some letters bigger than the others. Also there are things called paragraphs. Really they are useful if you want people to read what you write. _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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10-31-2007 21:41
LOL Damn it I should go back to bed! Actually I also should say about the word "Compliance" there Reitsuki ... I am very tired and not firing right at all. The word compliance is meant in the applied sense as in that if LL have been made aware that they HAVE to comply, it makes no difference what people think of it, they have to do it. And by people I mean LL themselves, probably, about some things. Agree actually - a shit ton of other things would indeed be illegal. Let's hope people can just keep their sticky beaks to themselves about anything minor ... I for one would find a PG Second Life no life at all. No, they don't have to comply with anything any country deems illegal. The country can (try to) deny them permission to do business there, but they don't HAVE to do anything other than obey US laws. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:42
The FBI isn't going to crack down on things in SL because they are illegal in Iran or Saudi Arabia or Germany or England or wherever. The authorities in those countries could try to prevent LL from doing business there, but that's another story. LL isn't going to crack down on things because they are illegal in Germany huh? Yeah ok. Remember that when you have to provide age verification data, when it comes in. Cherry's New Year Resolutions, to date: 1) Learn and really understand the gameplay of Craps, since no one in our offices understands it, no one plays it anyway so we get no queries, but I should make the effort so that the one day we get an enquiry about it I will be able to answer the customer. 2) Stop biting when people say things which are actually not based on reality. 3) Go to bed again when I think I should. |
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Cherry Czervik
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10-31-2007 21:45
It is called a shift key, it makes some letters bigger than the others. Also there are things called paragraphs. Really they are useful if you want people to read what you write. Yeah but ... maybe he just felt so strongly that he had to get it out. I agree with the spirit of his post though. NIGHT!! |