Blue Mars beta

Any comments on this new Virtual World? Only registered developers can be content creators.


http://www.bluemarsonline.com/about/index.html

As Rock recently mentioned. The SL Forums are not the proper venue to carry on a discussion on competitors. Don't know if any Linden mods are around any more but related threads used to be deleted and or locked.

We used to be able to have the sort of discussions about virtual worlds that one would expect virtual world enthusiasts to have.

Not with direct competitors, Opensim conversations are allowed but Open Life were removed.

Vaporware anyway.

I for one am not attracted away- for all the same reasons we have hashed and rehashed - over and over, ad nauseum.

A lot is still nda, but the building tools are far superior

We used to talk about Active Worlds, There, etc. a good bit, both of which are direct competitors, and for more recent virtual worlds, Hipihi, and Novoking have been discussed.


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Driving virtual world enthusiast to other sites to discuss their common interest is not necessarily good marketing, and making it clear that you don't think your product will fair well when compared and contrasted with other similar markets doesn't seem like good marketing to me at all.

+1.

Don't care.

I think talking about, and visiting, other virtual worlds should be a happy thing. I don't see a conflict.

During the reign of Katt the Terrible, all posts regarding Open Life were promptly deleted and she stated in the forums that this was against LL policy. In fact posts about Opensim were also being deleted until it was pointed out that Lindens are involved in it's development.

Not saying it is logical or agreeing with the policy btw.

There have been, in the past, some incendiary posts that were, it seemed, mainly advertising - I don't have a problem, really, with those being removed. But not discussions.

LOL and some of us got banned from the forums for a week.

I saw a taster video on the world that is the subject of the original post some time ago. The graphics did look amazing - if the whole thing comes into being it might be a serious threat to SL. But I've seen other swish publicity videos for 3D worlds which have come to nothing. My guess is that for most of us Blue Mars would give short snippets of brilliant graphics interrupted by lag, freezes, crashes and malfunctions.

I think we should be allowed to discuss other virtual worlds occasionally, as long as people aren't blatantly advertising, poaching residents or deliberately trying to get at LL.

Not only that, but she suspended me because she thought i posted a thread advertising for OLG, and then when I asked her to point to the advertisement, she realized she made a mistake and removed my suspension.

Katt was....interesting. Nice as a person. Lame as Linden.

I say go for it. I don't read any other forums, and would be interested hearing about Blue Mars.

Frankly, I see Avatar Reality (the company behind Blue Mars) more as direct competitors for Forterra or one of the gaming platform companies. But, I am not in the trial and really don't know much about it.
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From website in the OP:

How is Blue Mars different from Second Life?

Blue Mars offers an experience unlike any other virtual world. Our high end graphics, massive concurrent user support, system wide participation based rewards program, support for industry standard content creation tools, next generation NPC intelligence, simple LUA scripting support, and breathtakingly realistic Avatars are just a few of the compelling features that set us apart from the competition.
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That place sounds boring.

Like i said before..It will be a big doll house for Renderosity, TurboSquid, and Daz3d people.

One big expensive controlled content doll house.

Blue Mars is like a content buffet in Aspen as opposed to a buffet in Vegas/SL.

A very nice way of putting it

I think any forum moderator is destined to be lame. People don't like being controlled.

The creators of Blue Mars seem to think that there's hundreds of professional content creators with nothing better to do but create cities for them. On top of that, they expect content creators to pay them a fee for hosting the content.

Back in the real world - if you want somebody to create something nice for you then you don't charge them a fee for doing it. Quite the opposite, you have to pay them lots and lots of money as an incentive.

So it probably won't run on my system.

What does that mean?

Ummm... isn't that exactly what Linden Lab did to get the Second Life platform built?

touché

It probably means a system that will be gamed by the masses.

Not really, Linden Lab created an environment to socialize and create in. Content creation was as much about socializing as typing text messages is.

Blue Mars is going to be totally different from the old Second Life. Content creation is going to be raw work. It's basically going to be similar to developing for a 3D engine. There's hundreds of 3D engines available here:

http://www.devmaster.net/engines/

There is a place for all these kinds of systems. Not everyone cares to create, and some people put a premium on the graphics rendering. It could very well supplant places like There and IMVU, especially IMVU with its ugly Bratz whore-doll graphical style. It remains to be seen how it handles commerce and if commerce will flourish, but if people are willing to pay for stuff to look better, chances are it should survive for a while.

A good question to ask is, how did Kaneva do and how is this different from Kaneva?