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Does Identity Verification mean ban for all home sexual interacts??

Hiroaki Rhino
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09-18-2007 21:37
According to this new policy, we cannot have sex or sex balls on your land without marking the parcel as Restricted, and if you mark it. If marked, your buddy cannot come in to play in the first place.
But we cannot have sex without restricting, do we see the impossible here??

So my question is, IS PERSONAL PEACEFUL GENTLE INDOOR SEX AT HOME LABELED AS RESTRICTED!???

This really gives my mind a loud "STOP!".

Below is the blog post of Linden Lab for the reference.
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2007 at 3:58 PM PDT by: everettlinden

On August 29, we announced the beta test of identity verification (IDV). As Robin Linden explained, the goal of IDV is to increase trust, by enabling Residents to voluntarily verify parts of their identity, and giving content creators and landowners the ability to restrict access to content that is inappropriate to minors. In this post, I’ll expand on restricted content and how to flag your parcels.

What is defined as Restricted Content?

As a general rule, Restricted Content is any content that is explicitly sexual or excessively violent in nature. For guidance, consider AO-Rated (Adults Only) video games or R-rated movies.

What is the meaning of “flagged as having restricted content”?

Estate and parcel owners will be asked to flag the presence of restricted content on their land. This flag restricts access to verified Residents only, and provides notice to adults that content within may be objectionable to them. It also provides an added layer of protection for you, your friends, or your customers from being involved in inappropriate contact with minors who have gained unauthorized access to Second Life.

Note that if you are in a PG region, the parcel flagging system does not allow you to have restricted content. Restricted content is only allowable in Mature regions.

How to flag your parcel as having restricted content

The land must be on a region that is marked Mature (PG regions cannot be marked with Restricted content)

From the menu, go to World > About Land > Options. Under ‘Land Options’, check ‘Restricted Content’. The tooltip should read ‘Your parcel information or content is considered inappropriate for a minor’. Unchecking ‘Restricted Content’ will remove the ‘Restricted’ flag from the parcel.

What happens if I don’t flag my restricted content?

We strongly encourage estate owners and parcel owners to flag any restricted content and restrict their parcels to avoid minors inadvertently accessing it. If you are an estate owner, make sure that your parcel owners are flagging restricted content properly.

If Residents and businesses choose not to do this, land containing adult content that is not clearly marked will be easily identifiable by the community. Resident can raise concerns directly with the landowner or with Linden Lab via the Abuse channel.

As has always been the case, Residents are morally, socially and legally responsible for their actions and content in Second Life. Clearly, any illegal activity or content will be investigated and appropriate action will be taken.

So, flag your parcels and do your part to increase trust and safety among your fellow Residents in Second Life.

Consult the Knowledge Base under parcel flagging for more details and updates.
Dnate Mars
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09-18-2007 21:42
You can keep them hidden until you need them, then just throw up some ban lines and you should be good. If they are out all the time, then yes, you need to flag the land.
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Avacea Fasching
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09-18-2007 21:47
Or be discreet,
Keep it in IM
Who will know……?

Technically speaking, to the letter of the policy, you have your answer already.
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Alicia Sautereau
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09-18-2007 22:02
they can bite my ass with this estate restriction, if ppl want to have sex in their own house then i`d be the last 1 making a comment on this stupid flagging crap as i`ll never put the damn island verified only as they want it to be with ppl having sex once in awhile and as i`ll never will get verified with that company that has more holes then windows and are proudly sell all the collected data to god knows who...
Mickey James
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09-18-2007 22:15
The policy is maddeningly vague, but I take to apply to publicly visible things. A sex club, escort service, public dungeon, etc. I think if it's inside a house and no one can see without camming inside ... if you're not deliberately putting it on view ... it should not need to be flagged.

I have no idea if that's how LL means it, but until they explicitly say otherwise, that's how I'm going to read it.
Colette Meiji
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09-18-2007 23:09
The defining explicit by using the "R rated movie" example is a big departure from the implied level of restrictions they HAD been discussing.

Before "R" rated stuff was definitely Normal unflagged Mature Land material.

While the flagegd would have been a fair amount stronger.


Before everyone gets too comfortable claiming the difference is minor - Remember the "R movie" example is ging to basically feed into the "Turn in your neighbor" policy.

So if your neighbor thinks its in the "R rated" catagory and LL agrees, down goes your content,

ALA the way of the casino.

Hopefully the "R rated" AR wasnt you cuaght in the act with some poor unverified.
Bradley Bracken
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09-18-2007 23:30
So you have to tick a checkbox, so what? It's not like you are being required to post 600m high lead walls around your property.

Much ado about nothing again.
errUh Oh
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09-18-2007 23:35
"IS PERSONAL PEACEFUL GENTLE INDOOR SEX AT HOME LABELED AS RESTRICTED!???"

how boring
Alicia Sautereau
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09-18-2007 23:58
From: Bradley Bracken
So you have to tick a checkbox, so what? It's not like you are being required to post 600m high lead walls around your property.

Much ado about nothing again.

it does exactly that and of estate owners flagging their island as verified, only verified ppl can tp in
it`s a mass barrier
Bradley Bracken
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09-19-2007 00:10
From: Alicia Sautereau
it does exactly that and of estate owners flagging their island as verified, only verified ppl can tp in it`s a mass barrier


That's true. I guess the problem I have is I think age verification is much ado about nothing as well. If it's an issue for someone, then obviously that's a different story.
Oryx Tempel
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09-19-2007 00:12
From: Bradley Bracken
So you have to tick a checkbox, so what? It's not like you are being required to post 600m high lead walls around your property.

Much ado about nothing again.

QFT, thank you.
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09-19-2007 01:02
yup it does griefer disable camra constrants then AR you you get banned lose eveything
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Morwen Bunin
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09-19-2007 02:07
Apart from the fact if I will verify or not (I have an issue with the information I should provide.... my passport number I may not give. Driver license or alike will not work for me).... I cannot find where to verify at all (as far as I can see it is not at my account page)! Wanted to look at it before even deciding what to so.

Morwen.
Cole Riel
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09-19-2007 02:34
This whole idea of verification is stupid and it won't do a thing to stop minors from getting into sl. You have to be an idiot to think a teenager or even one in grade school won't be able to get into sl.

Just like the thing with the casinos which caused so many people to lose money, this is another ridiculous and moronic idea mandated to residents of sl by who else?
Elaina Bainbridge
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09-19-2007 02:42
I've always understood a "verified" account is one that has "payment info" status'. Unless there's some new verification thingy I haven't heard of yet....
Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 02:56
the bigger implications of this is that this is a call for those who can, to flag their parcels 'restricted content' now, that's before 95% of residents are able to register for verification even if they want to! and when will they be able to, how many weeks will areas of SL be closed to a majority of its residents.

sounds to me this is a way to covertly close down a lot of the sex industry. I guess the 'girls' will have to stop dancing and start making house calls, but if they can only make house calls in areas unflagged, does that area then have to be 'flagged'?

my SIM is classed as 'mature' however, we insist that everything on it is 'PG rated' as it's suppose to be an island environment for everyone to explore, even call girls.
Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 03:00
From: Elaina Bainbridge
I've always understood a "verified" account is one that has "payment info" status'. Unless there's some new verification thingy I haven't heard of yet....


Well yes you probably haven't heard of it yet, that in itself is worrying, imagine in the near future 500,000 people trying to post to the blog, I can't get into my own house, why? Or new players not even being available to complete orientation island because some Linden thought that squashing rats with cars was extremely violent (well it is, if your a rat)

And the number of posts a forum will get with related issues, some at first will take time to decipher that they have problems because of 'restrictive content' flagging.
Elaina Bainbridge
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09-19-2007 03:02
so how are they going about verifying accounts now/
Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 03:04
Well its the last thread on SL's blog page right now, all the links look like they are there to explain the process:


Identity Verification and Flagging Parcels for Restricted Content
Tuesday, September 18th, 2007 at 3:58 PM PDT by: everettlinden

On August 29, we announced the beta test of identity verification (IDV). As Robin Linden explained, the goal of IDV is to increase trust, by enabling Residents to voluntarily verify parts of their identity, and giving content creators and landowners the ability to restrict access to content that is inappropriate to minors. In this post, I’ll expand on restricted content and how to flag your parcels.

etc etc etc
Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 03:07
"by enabling Residents to voluntarily verify parts of their identity"

why do I have the urge to take a picture of my manhood and send it to SL with an e-mail saying "yes, this part of my identity makeup and I can verify this is me d*ckh**d" :)
Elaina Bainbridge
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09-19-2007 03:10
that's just too vague. what the eck are they looking to verify? anyone could practically bluff verifying most "solid"i nfo. =/
bilbo99 Emu
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09-19-2007 03:16
From: Elaina Bainbridge
that's just too vague. what the eck are they looking to verify? anyone could practically bluff verifying most "solid"i nfo. =/

and *that* is precisely why every mention of age or identity verification raises a storm. A lot of minors can get hold of their Dad or Mom's Driving License. The whole issue is a shambles.
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Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 03:26
From: Elaina Bainbridge
that's just too vague. what the eck are they looking to verify? anyone could practically bluff verifying most "solid"i nfo. =/



ahhh that's not the point, I nearly think LL would love this argument to be the main one, the point is covert censorship, it doesn't matter to LL how easy it is for a minor to falsify verification, this covers their butt if that happens, the blame is some how on the residents alone, I guess sexgen stuff is expensive and costs a lot, if you report problems and your not flagged, they can say 'illegal practice' shut you down, issued resolved.

I assume this, but I think a lot of the sex industry will fail to sell products for a long time, many may opt out, therefore hmmm more land on the market too.

I hope I'm wrong.
Victorria Paine
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09-19-2007 03:33
This is more or less the direction I thought this would take when the verification scheme was announced a few weeks ago. It's somewhat surprising that a film "R" rating is the threshold (that's pretty low, for folks outside the US who do not know US movie ratings), but the writing was on the wall when the programme was announced for anyone who had the eyes to see it.

The end result is that if you want to have sex on your land, it had better be restricted. I don't think the "behind closed doors" idea works, because SL's cameras can see through closed doors, and the whole point of the scheme is to prevent "exposure" of minors to any adult content, inclulding any sex even as depicted in an R-rated film (which, again for the non-Americans here, is *not* graphic sex, it's below that ... X-rating is for graphic sex). So as I see it, if you are having sex (or even sexy snuggles with exposed skin) on your property and you do not have the restricted sign up, you are taking a risk that someone could complain about what is happening .. and let's remember, there are plenty of prudish busybodies in SL as in RL who would do just that.

It's an unfortunate day, really, but so it is. I am not against limiting access to adult content for minors, obviously, but this scheme is quite extraordinarily broad in how it defines that, and quite draconian as well in terms of the information people are being requested (in fact required if they don't want a Cartoon Network version of SL) to fork over, something which is uncommon and officially discouraged in numerous countries, as various posters have pointed out.

We will see how this plays itself out. It certainly appears that it will have a chilling effect on any adult activity in SL because of the number of people who are opting out of the verification scheme for various reasons. I mean, you can mark your land, but if the vast majority of people are not age verified, there's no-one to play with after a while, and SL becomes yet again a safer place for Coke's marketeers.
Dekka Raymaker
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09-19-2007 03:38
another thing it's very hard to campaign against this, if everyone went naked to protest about this, LL would just say it was justification to have 'restricted content', however for a few days everyone could agree to report each other, I meet say 20 avatars a day, lest say that's average, so 40,000 x 20 = 800,000 AR reports in one day for nakeness!

I like the idea of everyone being naked in SL if only for one day.
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