BAN .:BLOODLINES: The Thirst:.

I vote for banning Bloodlines, since I frequently have to ban vampires who await newbies at the entrance, entering our newbie friendly club, sending a bite request to each and every one newbie that enters. I have requested the owner to create a tool so bloodline HUDs can be disabled in the club, since they are malused repeatedly (several a week), but he refuses to help. He offers the garlic necklace but is very aware that it is impossible to give every incoming newbie a garlic necklace and explain to them how to attach it. Most of our visitors are very new newbies.
Yet, despite all our problems with Bloodlines the creators refuses to give help while he is the only one who can stop this harrasment. He just wants to make money, no matter how many problems it causes for a club or how many complaints we have to deal with from annoyed visitors.

Help from Linden Labs would be appreciated, since Bloodlines is a frequent source of harrasment, which is impossible to stop.

Mars Bracken does not ban violators, even repeated violators. This is an empty promise. I have reported several repeat violators, but they were not banned from using Bloodlines at all.

Too bad that doesn't actually happen, from all accounts.

Actually, I've been concerned ever since I learned that Bloodlines players can buy, sell, and trade the "souls" they collect by biting people to other Bloodlines players - sometimes for up to $L500 or more. If that's true, I think I should demand some kind of compensation for getting bitten if they're going to continue to claim it's my "soul".

I AGREE!!

If you realize there is a bite request of course you decline. i was shopping and bought about 15 items. i didnt accept them right after buying, i started accepting them when i was done. I didnt know there was a bite request sneaked in and accepted it for mistake.
I realized it when i got the message about my lost soul.

I got removed totally from their database now finally. works without any potions or paying money. if you need help to get out feel free to IM me in game.

If you need an immediate solution to this problem, you could just disable scripts on your parcel. The Bloodlines HUD won't work in no-script areas.

Oh? That's news to me!

(and, no, I do not have any "souls" to cash in, nor would I even want to. I just hadn't heard that soul-trading was even possible, let alone common.)

You sure?

We have considered it, but since scripted items are part of what our visitors do in the club, it would kill off the purpose. Mars Bracken is the one responsible for the harrasment in our club, he is the one who should fix it. No more Bloodlines HUDS in our club, not any.

Vampires lately seem to know he does not keep his promise to ban them, before they would at least be scared at the idea of losing their bloodline acount, now they just shrug and bite till I ban them from the club. He is a plain liar when it comes to his own Bloodlines rules.

Indeed; there was an individual who complained on this very forum (the thread was quickly pulled) that LL banned him for making too many free alt accounts (on the order of several hundred, IIRC). He explained that all these accounts were part of a legitimate business he'd created in world - "soul harvesting", where he would use his Bloodlines HUD to bite them, thus collecting their souls, which he would then sell to other BL users for profit. Evidently he also used them to spam newbie rez areas and the like with bite requests as part of his "harvesting operation". I'm not sure of the details beyond that; I think there was a thread across the street about it, or someone else here might remember more.

It seems Bloodlines sells an accessory that allows players to "trade souls". When used, the receiving player is given a list of names of souls the giving player owns; the receiver can actually choose specific names. Since souls are a power stat in the game, some individuals sell them to other players, for several hundred dollars a pop, apparently. Such selling is not illegal per Bloodlines rules, so it's pretty easy to see how an army of alts can be used to game the game, as it were. The above-mentioned individual allegedly made several THOUSAND RL dollars doing exactly that.

Oy vey!

I had heard Bloodline was making an item for landowners to get that stopped the HUD from working. Wonder how much he will charge for that ?

What on earth has selling souls for linden got to do with vampire roleplay?
It is a little worrying that people are turning this into some sort of business.



Could not agree more this should be something enforced by LL for all of these type systems.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/21769-too-many-alts-permaban-second.html

It's hardly surprising that there's not much RP associated with bite requests: they're just soul-farming, an even more annoying way of begging for L$s.

Are ppl so hard up for something to do to make alts just so they can climb up some ladder for no reason other than to be at the top ?

Sounds like it

The guy was making serious amounts of US$ selling the "souls" of those alts.

The virtual world of second life sure is a crazy one

Unfortunately Neptune the only current way to do such is to create a whole new LSL2 command function - otherwise this sort of requirement would hamper ALL animation requests.

Doubtful. He could make some Lindens, but not a whole lot of USD. Here's the reason. In order to collect a soul, the victim has to buy the game HUD which is 599L. So if I create an alt, turn him/her to a vampire by buying the HUD so I can collect the soul, I've already put in 599L on this. If I sell the alt's soul for 1000L, I only make 401L. I am in BL, and I've seen people try to sell souls, and it's rare that someone would pay that much. Why would I pay 1000L when I could get a soul from someone I've bitten by paying for their HUD myself for 599L?



Your soul has not been collected unless you've bought the HUD, so no compensation for YOU!

I do want to say one thing. I am in Bloodlines and have been for a few months. I've enjoyed it immensely, as it's helped me expand my social network in SL and I was getting bored with the same old same old. I understand everyone's frustrations with these "spampires." Most of us, however, do not send out unsolicited bites. I've been in two clans and in both clans we have a notecard we give out to new vamps and the one main rule we stress is to never ever send out unsolicited bites. We also tell our minions the same thing. Most of us do take this seriously, and if you want an example of it, go hang out at Bloodlines and watch what happens when some nitwit sends an unsolicited bite request to an experienced vampire who knows the rules. We get every bit as upset about this as you do.

This is the first role play that I've done, and I know that not everyone in BL does in fact RP. The Bloodlines game is more of a skeleton or structure, and it allows us to role play as we see fit. Some do and some don't. After seeing Gabriele's examples in these forums on another thread, I realize that I have much to learn. *grins* But please don't lump us all together with the bad guys. In any game, or in any THING, there will be good peeps and bad peeps.

Most of us do not do the things that are complained about here.

state request
{
state_entry() { llListen(...); llDialog(...); }
listen(...) { if(msg == "No" // BAD VAMPIRE! NO COOKIE! }
}

A scammer lies. Whodathunkit.

It should be relatively simple to code the HUD to simply look for an ack of sorts from the player's intended target, shouldn't it? Either there's a response (they wear the HUD), or there isn't. If they aren't wearing the HUD, or whatever, they don't get a bite request.

I'm not an LSL guru, but it seems like this should be doable.

Wait: what? So all the poor sap newbies who are getting bitten... their souls don't even *count* unless they buy a HUD for L$599? If that's the case, how did it work in Dakota's example above, where the victim's soul immediately scored for the biter? Or is "collecting" a soul some different operation from... whatever they call the "bite-for-score" process?
Again: What? Vampires can themselves receive bite requests? *Why*?