BAN .:BLOODLINES: The Thirst:.

What, again, is the website address for Bloodlines?

Whatever happened to simply RPing in IM when outside the related sims? I mean, RP is more than -just- poses, animations and bite marks, isn't it?

RPing in IM whilst out shopping is not going to cause problems. Heck, most people won't notice and thus won't care. But is kind of rude to be having your "scene" while out shopping, around others that aren't at all involved in your RP system.

Think about it, you're shopping for that perfect hair and along comes this couple who are having pretty much what amounts to an erotic conversation in the local. They may even have the "appropriate" RP animation going. Sure, you can mute and ignore, but not everyone is going to do that. Some are going to file an AR. Me, I tend to rate the quality of the scene and usually, it's in the low numbers. I've even pulled a -1 score card on one "scene."

But whatever you do, you've witnessed something that makes you want to chug the brain bleach and that dirty feeling won't leave. In disgust, you do. The innocent business owner has now lost yours and who knows how many others business due to the inconsiderate mentality of some RPers. This also paints the rest in a very bad light.

I take issue with the spampires because they have zilch consideration for others. Same applies to -any- RPer who shows no respect for others around them.

I take issue with Bloodlines because the only way to "opt-out" is to "opt-in" to one of their databases. I also take issue with them because they know the system is being horribly abused, but they have done -nothing- to actually limit it's damage. I do not know if they are directly responsible for their players' behaviors, but they could put a stop to most of it.

There is more to role play than erotic or sexual situations. A proper role player can have a seemingly normal conversation and still be in character.

That is true, but it is very unsatisfying for role playing to just be acting like everyone else while just thinking in your head that you are your character. After all you can be anything in RL if you think that way

I dunno, when I did World of Darkness RP, it was always more fun to OOCly guess what race a person was by seeing which topics they'd avoid in regular conversations. Like, say a Bastet (werecat for those who aren't into WoD) would often avoid discussing anything related to their tribe of kitty. Or a vampire might avoid discussing blood transfusions. Made having a regular conversation a lot of fun.

*shrugs* I'm just more used to a MU* environ, where you had an OOC room and if you RP'd there, you'd likely be berated by everyone around for being a noob. I tend to consider the grid as one giant OOC room...

That is true, but it is very unsatisfying for role playing to just be acting like everyone else while just thinking in your head that you are your character.

*shrugs* I'm just more used to a MU* environ, where you had an OOC room and if you RP'd there, you'd likely be berated by everyone around for being a noob. I tend to consider the grid as one giant OOC room...

Nah, the whole grid is an IC area, but most people just play themselves. Their loss.

You can be acting in character without acting up, or (to connect to what the person you were replying to was actually referring to) being involved in sexual situations.

Mmm, but any action that's not completely normal could offend SOMEONE.

/me chews on his claws. Christ.

1. ANYTHING YOU SAY can offend someone, or be taken wrong, if you're going to try and avoid offending anyone any time you'll never say anything, and you'll get ejected because people think you're a bot.

2. We're not talking about "any action" in any case, the message you were responding to was specifically referring to sexual role-play.

Sure, but going back to the OP, I'm not convinced that the Bloodlines spampires know in advance that their bites will offend people either.

1. Nobody has an absolute right not to be offended. Anyone capable of playing SL has the ability to learn. If just the few spampires who didn't hear about how annoying Bloodlines was ever did it, then tried one bite and got bitch-slapped and quit, we wouldn't have a Bloodlines problem in SL.

2. What they're doing isn't role-play. Mythical and literary vampires don't walk around in the day and bite people in public places without so much as chatting them up.

If that were the rule, then if it so happened that the first person whose ankle you nipped was offended, you would have to never nip anyone else ever again.

Vampires in several popular tabletop RPGs do, though.

I didn't say "offended", I said "bitchslapped". Ejected, banned, treated the way people treat spampires.

There's no rule that says somebody who is offended has to react proportionately. I wish there was..

Nah, the whole grid is an IC area, but most people just play themselves. Their loss.

What you are talking about is not "role playing". Calling it "role playing" is offensive and annoying. I'm also sick and tired of you apparently deliberately misunderstanding the point that when I'm talking about "role playing", I'm talking about "playing a role", not "playing a game based on the idea of role playing".

Sure, but in order to be having an actual role-playing experience you must be doing something that you wouldn't be doing if you weren't in the role.

Certainly, a premise of at least some vampire fiction and settings is that there _are_ evil (or more-evil?) vampires out there who _will_ just mug random people and drain them. They may not be the focus of the story, true, but they often do exist in the setting.

There's a huge difference between what I do and grabbing people in the middle of a crowded store, biting them on the neck, and feeding off their blood and life force... destroying them and their soul alike, AND EXPECTING PEOPLE TO IGNORE YOU AND GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, WITHOUT OBJECTION?

Sure, but if they're BLATANTLY STUPID evil vampires they get staked in the first chapter, and who the hell wants to role-play an "extra" like that? These people aren't "role playing", they're just playing a game.

Ah, so there's a margin about what kind of RP is OK to do unsolicited, and what isn't? So, what is the margin? Don't feret bites carry rabies?

No, usually in those settings mortals have no hope of beating an evil vampire.

LL should force Bloodlines to make their system opt-in only: that is, you shouldn't receive bite requests unless you wear a HUD or click an object that says you're willing to be bitten. That would completely solve this problem.