BAN .:BLOODLINES: The Thirst:.

It's a public database not private..

Hasn't had impact on my SL like I said I'm NOT on it.

My main concern like I said is when people do it in someones place of business and run off their customers.

Whatever happened to simply RPing in IM when outside the related sims? I mean, RP is more than -just- poses, animations and bite marks, isn't it?

RPing in IM whilst out shopping is not going to cause problems. Heck, most people won't notice and thus won't care. But is kind of rude to be having your "scene" while out shopping, around others that aren't at all involved in your RP system.

Think about it, you're shopping for that perfect hair and along comes this couple who are having pretty much what amounts to an erotic conversation in the local. They may even have the "appropriate" RP animation going. Sure, you can mute and ignore, but not everyone is going to do that. Some are going to file an AR. Me, I tend to rate the quality of the scene and usually, it's in the low numbers. I've even pulled a -1 score card on one "scene."

But whatever you do, you've witnessed something that makes you want to chug the brain bleach and that dirty feeling won't leave. In disgust, you do. The innocent business owner has now lost yours and who knows how many others business due to the inconsiderate mentality of some RPers. This also paints the rest in a very bad light.

I take issue with the spampires because they have zilch consideration for others. Same applies to -any- RPer who shows no respect for others around them.

I take issue with Bloodlines because the only way to "opt-out" is to "opt-in" to one of their databases. I also take issue with them because they know the system is being horribly abused, but they have done -nothing- to actually limit it's damage. I do not know if they are directly responsible for their players' behaviors, but they could put a stop to most of it.

Exactly.... Spot on Raudf.. Thanks

The people on the 3 parcels next to me are vampires, I have never actually met them. The other day, one of them, walks across my property, up the front stairs, opens the doors, walks into my house, says something in Spanish and offers me a bite invite thing. I declined, she turned around and walked out.

The fact that people play this game has never bothered me, but I thought that was incredibly rude!

At that point, either i bust out my toys and make their life hell for invading my personal space, or AR them (if there is something there that can be AR'ed). If you remember her name, send it to me in an IM and i'll see what clan she is part of. Something like that is above and beyound rude.

That, I will agree with. You won't get any argument from me that the Bloodlines system is severely flawed, and why I allowed myself to become "destroyed" rather than become a pest myself.

I am just saying, try to be a little more understanding of the people who may not know any better; those who, because of lack of training and mentoring, believe that running around biting people IS how the game is played. I'm not saying one should allow them to do whatever they wish; but rather than screaming at them, banning them, and kicking them to the curb leaving them wondering what the heck went wrong, take the time to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong.

Absolutely Kat. I never had any training. The clan i was in actually showed me places where I could bite newbies. To me, since that is what happened to me, was wrong. Any bloodlines players who need to learn a better way to play the game needs to be educated. After being educated, if they continue to do the same things, then you can yell, mute and ban at will.

Thank you. I was about to say something along these lines myself. Whether people realize it or not, Second Life IS a role-playing game. Whether its people choose to avail themselves of its unique role-play opportunities or simply choose to extend their real lives into the virtual world doesn't change that.

Unfortunately - and this has been seen in many virtual worlds similar to this, such as the now-defunct Sims Online - when roleplayers and non-roleplayers collide, the result is usually an insane amount of drama arising.

Kat,
I used to play TSO also back in the day yet RP'ing there was nothing like it is in SL. Between skilling, eating, crapping and skilling more... who had time? lol

What I can't understand is how the Bloodlines operators could be missing the huge business opportunity they've created by making their spampires so hated.

They need to start selling "Slayer" HUDs. Anyone wearing such a HUD can "accept" a bite request, but instead of activating the typical "vampire bites you" animation, the user of the "Slayer" HUD would rez a stake and stake the Bloodlines vampire. This would activate a "writhing in agony" animation in the Bloodlines vampire, and take away a % of their blood points (or whatever they call them). The more vampires you stake, the better you get and the more damage you do.

Such a system would both make the vampires think twice before sending unannounced bite requests, and provide another revenue stream for the game makers. It's win/win.

Wow. Brilliant idea. Seriously, you might want to save that idea and find someone who can write the script for that... might make you some cash out of it lol

lol! That would be awesome.

Personally, I believe vampires sending out unsolicited bite requests in a shopping center runs off far fewer customers than the drama that tends to follow an unsolicited bite request does.

I mean, if I were out shopping and got a bite request, I'd just decline it and carry on. If the person persisted, I'd just mute him and carry on. If I happened on a couple of people yelling and screaming and having it out over a bite request, I would leave - quickly!

Carl I agree with that.. But that would still leave the Noob area's open and fair game to them. So still weighs heavy for the Bloodline vamps... Perhaps add a polnts sytem to it where an avie must pass a certain age before they can be bitten. This would give them time to get educated.

Still the bite requests shouldn't be given to people trying to shop in a store that isn't on any type of role playing sim and is a private island.. It hurts business.
I know someone will say every sim is a role playing sim.. That's true, However it's not a Vamp sim.

Exactly the point.. It drives off business either way.. the request or the drama afterward. there is no positive effect.

Touché.

OMG Vampire Llamas!

What, again, is the website address for Bloodlines?

Well--areas popular with new residents would become prime hunting grounds for slayers, then, wouldn't they?

http://www.slbloodlines.com/index.php

I would so buy that!!!

Just tell em they can bite you during sex...

...that gets rid of em....

I've given it a bit of thought. It's actually better for a shop owner to IM a warning to the offender and if the offender persists, argues, or takes it to the local, simply ban them. Don't get into a screaming match, don't confront them in a public way. Put the onus of bad behavior completely on the spampire.

As a shopper, it's better to quietly tell the owner, AR the offender and then ignore them from there on out. No point in getting into confrontations with idiots.

Hunting is so labor-intensive.

It's a public database. 3347 pages of "soul" names, in fact, in an easily-scraped format. And avatar names are readily converted to UUIDs using any of several public databases.

And apparently it's not a ToS violation to make a game in which players use a script to pop a permissions dialog on the screen of random strangers.

Now, how could we find the keys for a lot of random strangers?

I'm thinking that the game should require slayers to recover each soul individually. So the first-ranked Bloodlines player, currently with 510 souls, would have to agree to the dialog 510 times, and then each slayer who got one of the "agrees" would get 510 points.

Oh! Oh, I know exactly where to get the opt-out necklace, too.