BAN .:BLOODLINES: The Thirst:.

Solar: The problem I have with games like Bloodlines is they mislead people about role-play, by presenting a game with rules that don't reward or even actively discourage role play as a "role playing game". I'm sure that people do role-play in the game's context, but they do it in spite of the game... not because of it.

Bloodlines is annoying due to the people using the system assuming all SL residents wish to play vampire or victim.

It is the vampire role players causing nuisance not the Bloodlines system itself.

The developer obviously put a lot of work into developing the system, which no doubt gives enjoyment to people roleplaying with it.
The developer should be able to make a profit from his or her work charging whatever they feel fit.

The bloodlines and any other role play systems in my opinion, should under no circumstance be banned.


I think it is a shame however Bloodlines users cannot stick to their roleplay areas and leave other residents alone.

I have been bothered by bloodlines users in sandboxes, shops and even on my own land.

I really feel it is the unwanted pushyness of some bloodlines users that causes problems.

I have allowed a bloodlines user to bite me in the past, but have no intention of paying to regain my virtual soul, or playing bloodlines myself.

No user should feel pressured into roleplaying with the bloodlines system or any other.

If they were role-playing, they would not be making a nuisance of themselves. Walking up to someone and sending a bite request is not "role-playing". Bloodlines encourages this kind of gaming, and it gives role-playing a bad name.

Teach me the flying and the teleporting please... saves me many traffic jams!

Well there are planes in SL and have you tried TPing lately?

Therein lies the issue I personally have with some of the people that have argued within this topic Neptune: The assumption that there really are designated RP areas for EVERYTHING and EVERY TYPE of character.

My chosen RP character for SL?

A Soul Guide: The messenger of Death whose job it is to guide the deceased to their place in the afterlife ... if they want to go or not. Often this is accomplished by first getting to know the person whilst they are alive .... and heck, even a Soul Guide needs a vacation once in a while!

Such a character is not wholly welcome nor does such a character truly belong in many of the current RP Sims and systems in SL: Indeed, the group I created (with the original purpose of being for any more Soul Guides and any Eternal Beings) has no one Sim to call home.

The second issue I have with your post is the assumption that ALL vampire RPers are to blame: IM me in world sometime and perhaps you will be surprised .....

(Yes, I have many characters -grins-)

But does that make it ok to intrude on people in SL who have no idea what it is you are doing, what your character is trying to accomplish or why you are involving them? It's not their fault you don't have a sim and doesn't make others fair game does it, those who are trying to enjoy 'their' SL which is completely different from yours?

Treasure: I think, again, we need to distinguish between the kind of thing Bloodlines promotes (getting points for blood, regardless of whether you do ANY role-play at all) and role-playing.

A role-played vampire wouldn't walk up and click "bite Treasure" (or whatever they do on their HUD), they'd spend hours or days getting to know you and attempting to convince you to accept the dark gift, or at least to go make vampire nookie with them. But they'd lose out in the blood point ratings if they spent a realistic amount of time on a victim, so they wouldn't be playing Bloodlines for long. It would be just frustrating.

I know, but, Solar is talking about some other kind of character, right, not a Bloodlines vampire, but something he made up? A Soul Guide? So if a 'soul guide' pops up at my house and says come on I am taking you to the afterlife (he did say 'if they want to go or not, lol) what am I supposed to think of this? Just get wrapped up in 'his' game, or LMAO and say poof begone? People that intrude 'their' game on you, and I didn't think this 'soul guide' thing was part of Bloodlines, I didn't read it like that anyway, could be wrong.

Herein lie the problems.

One: Numpty doesn't bother to ask or talk to you before sending request.
Two: Numpty does this to everyone in the sim despite threats of banning.
Three: There seems to be no clear way of reporting Numpty to bloodlines
to have them banned from the system as it says will happen.
Four: I've sent notecards to the creators concerning many Numpties and nothing was done.

My vote? Blacklist the Bloodlines scripts by creator on the database and lets all move
on to the next scam witch hunt.

You're assuming that he's going to do that. As opposed to getting to know you while he's on supernatural vacation, and casually as it comes up let you know what his job is, not actually tell you that you're going to die or anything...

I only ban the ones that try and bite me while I'm at my cafe building. I'm a child avie too. How ridiculous!

A child vampire was a key part of at least one of the "Interview with a Vampire" novels. I don't recall enough of the story line at this late date to recall which vampire was responsible for "recruiting" her, or what the circumstances were, but almost all the characters including most of the vampires found it disturbing.

Wasn't that Claudia (aka Kirsten Dunst in the film)?

Lestat was trying to get vampire vegetarian Louis away from his moral objection to human blood and away from rat-a-touille suppers. They stumbled across a little girl and her mother dying from the plague I think it was - and Lestat convinced Louis it would be 'saving' the girl.

That's how I recall it anyway - or maybe that was just a nightmare I had. Not sure. :/

Well, you can also just mute them, ignore them, and tell them to go away.
Are they on your land, but give 'em the boot. The large boot.

We don't have to ban people just because of their hobbies.

Bloodlines also has regulations. It's the idiots who don't follow them.

Bloodline has regulations but i have never heard of them removing anyone after all would that not be getting rid of customers ?
When i had issues all i got in the end was me put on some other list telling them not to bite me. So ina sense im still in their system

I don't watch many movies, and I thought that was the name, but it was many years ago that I read the books...

So there you go, if you find a dying child avatar, it's OK to go and offer her the dark gift.

Ahem .... considering the way he is played .... you'd never know if I am in or out of character .... unless you paid attention to my group tag.

Even then, what are you going to think if you walk into a club and someone simply says "Hi, how're you today?"

Ok.....can you expound? And so, if I say 'I'm fine, thanks'. Then what? We just have a conversation? What do you DO exactly when you are 'in character'? Are you saying that if one merely responds to your 'hello' in chat you will 'guide' their 'soul' to 'wherever'? lol Just trying to understand, here......(yes people, I know, avatars don't have souls. Trying to gain an understanding here of someone else's SL)

-smiles- Normal conversation is an integral part of any interaction, be it in character (RPing) or not.

Unfortunately, as a side effect of having done so for years (RPing) as you can see, I have a tendency to let people know if a specific expression or such falls on my face or not. -softly chuckles-

In any event, for the character, his job only comes into play on rare occasions. The last time actually was around a classic "Nosferatu" type vampire (meaning, Undead).

That did not end well for the vampire.

Treasure, suppose a skeleton in a black robe carrying a scythe walked up and said "hi".

They may be "wearing a costume", they may be role-playing "death". Depending on the conversation that follows, you would be able to tell one from the other... even if he doesn't sever your soul from your body.

actually anyone found to be abusing the regulations can and will be permanently banned from it by Mars Bracken one of the Creators of it. he does not back those who do not Rp properly anymore than the rest of you

Oh....*Feeling REALLY dense here*.....well he didn't say he'd be a skeleton in a black robe with a scythe. I didn't know what a soul guide looked like. (Getting in too deep here, just not smart enough to RP, don't think. Think I'd be a serious mood killer to someone trying to seriously RP, like asking, hi, what's for lunch? or something equally inane) Carry on.....

I didn't mean to suggest he would, I was giving you an analogous situation, substituting a symbol you might recognize, to give you an idea. The mythological avatar "Death" ushers souls into the next world, right? But if Death was on vacation, how would he act?

I find this may just be empty words on Mars behalf as i have complained about a fair few who were " breaking Regulations" and they are still about bloodlining.