Age verification enters Grid-wide beta

Any idea how much information there already exists about you out there?

I wonder if this bill passed by the House yesterday, had anything to do with why it was rolled out at this time?

# SHORT TITLE(S) AS INTRODUCED:
SAFE Act of 2007
Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act of 2007

# OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
To modernize and expand the reporting requirements relating to child pornography, to expand cooperation in combating child pornography, and for other purposes.

SUMMARY AS OF:
10/10/2007--Introduced.

Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act of 2007 or the SAFE Act of 2007 - Amends the federal criminal code to expand the reporting requirements of electronic communication and remote computing service providers (service providers) with respect to violations of child sexual exploitation and pornography laws. Requires such service providers, in reporting violations of such laws to the CyberTipline of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (Center) to provide: (1) information on the Internet identity of a suspected sex offender, including the electronic mail address, website address, uniform resource locator, or other identifying information; (2) the time child pornography was uploaded or discovered; (3) geographic location information for the offender; and (4) images of such child pornography. Requires the Center to forward each report which it receives from a service provider to a designated law enforcement agency.

Requires service providers to preserve images of child pornography for evidentiary purposes.

Authorizes the Center to provide images of child pornography reported to its CyberTipline to service providers to enable such providers to stop further transmissions of of pornographic images.

Grants service providers and the Center immunity from civil claims or criminal charges for complying the requirements of this Act, except for certain intentional or reckless misconduct.

Quite true - so why would I want to add fuel to the fire as Bill Shakespeare would say?

i`m with you!




even as not mented for me, i can actually give an answer on that in my case

i can`t find ANYTHING about myself on the web, not even old email adresses of wich i forgot the login info lol





no matter what laws are passed in the US, Linden Lab is still wanting us to do something that is illigal in the EU unlike many people think

Fair enough point but then I hope you never use a mobile phone on contract, sat nav, don't have a bank account, credit/debit cards, store or loyalty cards, never buy anything online, never post in Forums, never have any politcal views etc etc.

We all do these things. It's the way the world is.

Then don't break the law. You can still come to SL, you just can't access all of it's areas. Instead of bitching about SL, do something to change your laws.

Just for SnG, I tried to verify with my driving license and social security number, with my current and previous addresses.

Nothing was accepted.

All I have left to try is my passport number.

Anyone in the UK successfully verified yet?

Broccoli

It was listed, it simply didnt work.

You know, I am going to really put cat among the pigeons here BUT I have never been "for" child depictions in any shape or form in sl - and, if case of above information about child pornography can be applied to SL then I am all for it. Just as an aside, I honestly dont approve of the imitation of children as avitars. I was never "for it" when I was part of a help group and greeted newbies (and was told people had right of free expression even if it is as a five year old) and I am still against it. Tolerance has nothing to do with it. Certain issues and behaviours that require age verification are just too hazardous for us to accept as paying members of sl. How will age verification PREVENT child abuse in SL? Perverts will find a way around it and simply bring the rest of us into disrepute.
I still won't age verify BUT let's get the child pornographers/abusers outta here.

I used my driving number to successfully verify, though that was several months ago when age verification was first opened.

Well of course not. That's not how data capture works is it? If it was public domain it would be worthless information.

Or we could carry on bitching about the fact that software that is being used is not up to scratch.... SO many, whilst dont like the idea of verification have tried to verify, but cant because the system being used is about as good as a chocolate teapot.... The system will NOT accept some genuine European details but will accept a 12 year olds SSN?!

So yup at the moment a few of us have a right to bitch!

I don't have a problem with having my age verified, but the verification failed on both SS and drivers license.

I have verified my age on IMVU and it worked fine there.

THis is my experience of Aristotle; the first time they encounter a person, the verification simply fails until they update their database with newly verified info for that person. That is probably a big reason for this extended beta ... so that Aristotle can verify and add all the gathered info to their learning database.

I failed an Aristotle check once because they'd never encountered me before (a check verification at a store). That was no big deal, but as it happened my credit card company was just beginning to do some sort of background Aristotle checks on accounts and the store failure messed up my credit card access for weeks. Aristotle showed no interest in helping to clear up the misunderstanding.

So I am quite sure that Aristotle has at least some information on me in their databases. I certainly have no interest in adding to it, knowing how casually Aristotle uses and protects their information. But I am extremely leery of the link between my avatar and myself becoming publicly known. I have NO confidence that the combination of LL and Aristotle will find themselves able to preserve that anonymity.

i`m not bitching as i don`t care if i can or can`t access all of SL but the law is pritty clear and in this case good with protecting privacy, but others who will loose money cause of that won`t be happy (shops/service providers) wich will be inaccessible for alot of people

They will be unable to compete because of the laws of the nation in which they live. It isn't LL's fault.

true lol

but i never gave any RL info unless absolutly needed and used fake names and adresses every where else so i`m no where on file

Well, then maybe you can all visit an office and provide a thumbprint and retina scan to prove who you are. I have never had a problem with verification on any site I have wanted to join. But then I am not "protected" by all the laws the EU has. Thank God.

Oh, I never had a problem with European identity verification either. Worst come to worst they could use the PostIdent in Germany - but it would take several weeks. And likely cost.

I agree that the laws are crappy, but well, laws are crappy everywhere. US has the reverse problem with far higher levels of identity theft. Which is a worse nightmare, for those I know who have experienced it.

It's what you're willing to stomach, I guess.

Yes, it is, you can have freedom or security, not both. I choose freedom.

I am sure that LL has been following this closely, and that it is indeed related to the timing.

The RC viewer's borked the appearance of my AO HUD, too...a modified ZHAO II type. The top button (menu access) is all whited out.

I don't have a problem with verifying... but the site has a problem accepting my details... its not a sweeping thing so a bus trip organized for us all to go down and give that said thumb print wont be needed..but thanks for that productive idea.

You see they are accepting some people's details outside the US but not others...!

I have tried EVERY genuine combination I can think of and it wont go through, but then I read how they have accepted a 12 year olds ssn in the states?! Which tells me this site does not know its arse from its elbow, so yes I will bitch because this would be fine if it WORKED and thats hardly my fault, my nations fault or the Queen's fault..!

I have already read a remark on the blog commenting on the fact that those that wont verify should go play in the park with the kiddies... People are trying to!! But already the backlash is starting!

I dont have a problem going through the manual verification, which I will do, but it stinks that I have to go all through that when a 12 year old as such has verified... its a joke, but hey I am good for a laugh and will play along! I hardly blame our respective governments for that!!

Umm I have no desire to change laws that are legitimate and protect us.

We have something over here called the data protection act. That explicitly has been created to protect the information that is held on computer databases in the UK. The government is in itself under investigation for breaching this act in a very well known case involving 2 cds from the inland revenue.

Quick everyone roll a new child avatar so you fit in with the unverified crowd!