Age verification enters Grid-wide beta

I have posted a pointer in the blog comments, now nearing 100, to this thread. Let's all be nice to any forum newbies who show up as a result!

I have tried verifying using a British drivers license and a Portuguese passort, none work.

afraid this will damage the economy

As an aside, during the 'debates' on age verification there was some guessing at what LL would do about existing parcel access facilities.

From the Blog:
"Removed the ability to *ban* access to Residents who have provided payment info or who have used payment info. We continue to support the ability to *allow* access to only those who have provided payment info."

It brilliant!!!
No Payment Infos will not be "banned" from a parcel. They just won't be included in the "allowed" category.
I suppose that if LL are encouraging freebie signups, it would look a bit bad if they were explicitly giving parcel owners the option to ban them.

Compare and contrast with the terminology of "restricting" access to verified only.


Freebie = Good
- so keep them off your land by "allowing access" only to non-freebies

Unverified = Bad
- so keep them out by "restricting access".


Don't ya just love semantic acrobatics?



SO: We have a complete and final solution to the Ban Lines issue.
We rename them as "Not Allowed Lines".
Why did noone think of this before?????

I have this problem, Born and bred British and just happen to live in Germany right now, but I cant get any combination to work....

I had no problems at all verifying my main and alt. Didn't mind using my DL, because you have to flash it to get meds with certain kinds of decongestants, alcohol and writing checks.

I'm in Germany, too, and it doesn't work, regardless of what I try - same as Alyx.

I am not a citizen of the country I live in, which is common among IT workers. I have a passport and an ID card from my home country, but they do not seem to work when coupled either with my current address or my old address in my home country.

Not that I wasn't expecting this.

So I will probably be unable to verify for the foreseeable future, as I do not intend to provide LL with a scanned copy of my documents.

SL has made a blunder in asking Canadians for their Social Insurance Number, It is not illegal for SL to ask for it, but under Canadian law, we are have every right to refuse to supply a SIN.

Canadians can make a formal complaint to the The Office of the Privacy Commissioner

See below, taken directly from their Website:

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So, what can I do when asked for my SIN?

Ask if you are required by law to provide it (see list below);

Ask why the person needs it, how it will be used and to whom it will be given;

Your SIN is not a piece of identification. If it is not required by law (and you are not satisfied with the explanation), tell the person you prefer not to use the SIN and offer other identification;

If the organization refuses to give you the product or service unless you give your SIN, complain to the Privacy Commissioner of Canada;

If you would like better legal protection for your SIN, call or write your federal Member of Parliament.

Source:



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If you believe you have a complaint under the Privacy Act or PIPEDA, submit it to us in writing at the following address:

112 Kent Street
Place de Ville
Tower B, 3rd Floor
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 1H3

Please include your full contact details in your letter, including your name, address and the telephone number where you can be reached, and provide as much detail as possible about your complaint.

Note: The Office of the Privacy Commissioner does not process complaints via e-mail. Please submit your complaint by mail.

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And frankly, asking for a passport number of a driver's licence number is just as bad an idea. THere's not a single piece of ID on that list that I feel I can trust SL with.

And what is really annoying is having just read some comments on the blog from people coming out with "well we should verify...if you cant verify go play with the kiddies...." kind of thing...
When in reality a lot of people CAN'T verify because the system is messed up and wont accept the details!! Regardless of anyone's view about verification being wrong all right, its sad to see already the remarks against those not verified have started!! Unbelievable!

Verified in seconds with driver's license. Main and alt (that's me).

I am officially an adult now

The most apparent problem with this is:

Minors who are on SL can get the proper driver's license info from the same purse or wallet that they got the credit card info from.

Sighs.

i was verified after putting in an address i lived at 4 moves ago. that means there's an existing database already - they're not mining you for information, at least - but if you can't remember your entire address from the time you were databased, you're out of luck!

Asking for a SIN, which technically not illegal, is a BIG blunder. That's the key which pulls together ALL your information compiled by the federal government. I suspect there are going to be a stream of formal complaints made to the Privacy Commissioner about this.

There is not ONE piece of information on that drop-down list that I feel comfortable giving to Second Life. I'd rather skip the adult parts than give up this much of my privacy.

Also, according to Canada's Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act. businesses must supply you with a product or a service even if you refuse consent for the collection, use or disclosure of your personal information unless that information is essential to the transaction.

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I am German living in Germany and can't verify...

I do admit my driving licence is already 16 years old, but it's still valid and no one is forced to get a plastic card one, but both my passport and ID card, which are current, won't work either.

It's only the last 4 numbers, actually. I just verified with no problem, but obviously some people are having a problem with it. Good luck, everyone!

Im Canadian, have been of legal age for a period longer than my entire childhood, don't have a driver's licence or passport, the blasted verifier wouldn't accept my SIN ( I tried this before reading this thread...). The LL folks need two things: 1) familiarity with, and the ability to accomodate, international ID regs, and 2) a special hotline for cheesed-off perfectly legitimate adults to be able to find other ways of verifying age......Crikey, I thought my Visa card was verification in and of itself....they don't give them to underagers here in Canada......*howls in purest frustration* Thank the Gods this is a beta.....

I'm almost tempted to call LL and ask them what they plan to do to reimburse their userbase once Aristotle/Integrity 'accidentally' sells their personal info to advertisers.

So disgusting.


Whats most important? Covering Sl's asses and making the database of "integrity"bigger------or actually avoiding the verfication of kids, so as someone said, to prevent "verified 12 year old escorts," running around?

It would take a pretty dumb 12 year old that couldn't figure out how to get around this. Computer savvy Kids learn how to get around all this early these days.

And if push came to shove would it really cover anyone's asses?

Not morally anyway and probably not legally either, if it can be demonstrated to be easy for a kid to outsmart it.

No, when you look under "Canada"" ID accepted, unlike in the US, it seems that they are asking Canadians to give out the whole SN number, which any sane Canadian would never do. Living in a big city, I have no need for a DV (Metro, Taxi, and walking are better) and my passport has expired. Whatever, there is no way I am giving out my personal info.

I hope people get a nice "Ultra Verified" stamp on their profile for submitting all that .

I look at age verification this way...and it, of course, is just my opinion....but I'm not overly concerned about identity theft, or anything of that kind. To be honest, I worry more about that every time I use my debit mastercard in a store, especially since they don't even ask for a signature half the time, and if they do, they certainly never compare it to the one on the card. By then, the card is back in my wallet. I'm more at risk in RL of my personal details being revealed then I am here on SL. And, I have a 12 year old, and believe me, she doesn't have the slightest clue where my social security card and driver's license are located. Heck, she doesn't even know where her own SS card is, nor what her number is. It would take a pretty slick little 12 year old to be able to access that information of their parent's, and a very naive parent to allow that information to be accessible to their children. I would hope that most parents would be like me, and know that is information of which their children do not need to be aware.

Heheh either I was a 'slick' 12-year-old or my parents were a bit too relaxed but I certainly knew where my mum kept all the important documents and records and information. She was (and still is) so gosh-darn well organized that it's easy to find anything you need. Actually LOL I can remember exactly which drawer of her desk all that stuff was in... but I can't remember any more which room the desk itself was in, back then.

Anyhow, I don't know what kids and parents are like today, but 20-years or so ago, that info was pretty easily acquired, without any parental knowledge or involvement. Pitty it wasn't useful back then

-Atashi

Part of the trick of being a sneaky kid is pretending you don't know where parents keep their documents. Kids will be getting around this right about now I'd say.

I just instantly verified, with DL number.

What a joke. Any kid could do it. We are all huge suckers. Now watch certain kinds of spam in the Inbox increase.

Every day that passes I want to pull the SL plug more. "Integrity"---anything that would call itself "Integrity,"---has got to be a scam.

My current address failed verification...

I tried a previous address I lived at from 2003, and it PASSED!

Looks like our info is being checked against a database from several years ago. Anybody that cannot verify and has moved in the last few years, try an old address.