The Lord of the Flies - Child AVs and the Nursery Syndrome

OK, obviously I am being tongue in cheek. Mind you, the unhealthiest venues for communicable illnesses are schools, malls and supermarkets. Ask your doctor.

What is wrong in being "deliberately provocative"? If we arent deliberately so, then the alternative is to become deliberately not raising any issue or debate topic.

I really dont need your pity. I am comfortable in my reality, and I am successful. I admit people appear to resent that. I am not especially immodest since I think that is a false sentiment. I like be liked BUT I cannot help it if I am controversial even when I really dont think I am. My immediate circle of real friends do not applaud the "morality of meekness". It's not going to get you very far if you dont question and comment upon your world and promote yourself (or make sure other promote you - even for their own ends). There is nothing wrong in that as long as I never lose sight of my beginnings and my "end".

Please don't feel sorry for me. I certainly don't feel sorry for you.

How is that possible? Seriously! They are adults interacting with each other and acting - they are NOT kids. I cant suspend my disbelief in this case since I havent met a child av yet who is really childlike.

Sea, listen, they are NOT children. Are you seriously gonna tell me that if your next door neighbour dressed up in kiddie shorts and bopeep dresses and sucked a lolly you'd accept them as a child?

Be a child SURE, but dont expect MOST of us to buy into it.

Yeah I wanna dialogue, not a diatribe about my personal opinions. I change my mind all over the place. I'm not sure I'm so keen on Snow Patrol at the moment but last month I bought their latest cd. I liked egg and chips this summer but really dont fancy them now. "I might be good tomorrow but useless yesterday."
Do you something? One of my ancestors was hanged as a witch on July 22nd 1612. I guess she was a bit too outspoken and annoying also.

This thread has gotten really long, so I'll admit that I skipped most of the middle part. Hopefully I won't be redundant. I don't have all that much to say.

Grown people talking baby talk is obnoxious, and most of the female "children" end up looking like JonBenét Ramsey in a pageant, which was super creepy even before she was murdered.

I just don't like being around them. It makes me uncomfortable and slightly queasy. I don't object to their right to exist in SL, but personally I think there is something wrong with it. They should never show up at clubs and venues that wouldn't allow children in RL. When I had a club I would eject anyone who looked like a kid and it annoyed me that they didn't have the discretion to stay away in the first place.

When I got tired of sexual tension in SL I became a tiny possum. If anything, that usually makes people laugh. It might creep a few people out but I doubt if it's many. If you don't want to deal with sexuality, make yourself a robot or a mouse or really super ugly. You don't have to make other people uncomfortable in order to make yourself feel comfortable. And trust me, you can be silly as hell with any avatar.

Agreed.

you mean there are healthy venues for communicable diseases?

probably not so much afterward...

It's all work and structured play for those unlucky enough to be children today.

Whatever. You have fun, child. I'm out.

Careful! Someone might mistake you for Pep.

Oooh, don't be too sure about that.

Looking carefully at this thread and making some huge assumptions, it appears to me that, in general, those who want to play or play with child avatars are probably childless themselves, and those that don't want anything to do with child avatars in sl have their attitude because they have had enough of their own rl kids!

Pep (Except Jig, who doesn't want anything to do with kids in either SL or RL )

Golf courses, mountain trails, Kew Gardens . . .

Pep (Anywhere in the open air where you don't have to get too close to other people)

PS Hey, look - I am supporting Jig, despite the clumsy way she expressed herself.

Then the problem is at least half yours.

Could be...





That's for sure.

Thanks Pep - in real I come on after really intense days recently just to "escape" and let off steam. I'm working with words and getting here and finger flighting on the keys.

There's obviously truth in what is immediately above. I really do avoid them. In my life, a throat infection or a cold can have disasterous consequences. I literally am muffled and should own stocks in hand cleaners and antibacteria handwash stuff. Handshaking is a real dilemma. "It's just a cold" to one person can mean a reorganization of resources that makes Napoleon's march on Moscow look like a trip to the paddling pool. That said ...

I think my generation in real have turned babies into fashionista statements. Bellies and baby "bumps" are "in" and denote fertile sexuality. The skinny model/rocker with the bumpbelly is now "Ishtar in the Temple" fulfiling one more teen fantasy or some mature women's confirmation that children validate us.

In real we rightly honour and guard our resource of children. But the expectation that we all want children or that there is something wrong with us for not wanting a child is still deeply ingrained in our societies. My real friend "Lynx" says of herself that she would make a rotten mother and has no desire for a baby, yet her parents long for grandchildren. She would be a rotten mother - I agree. In my case I have seen what having a child too young can do - I am the offspring of a very young mother. It has been a real challenge for her despite our relative wealth and comfort zone.

So perhaps here a generation of women (and men) can "coo" over the imitators of children or become one themselves. I am reminded - very intensely - of P. D. James' novel "The Children of Men".

There is nothing wrong in this, I suppose. Nothing at all. We must remind ourselves that the cycle of life exists even if we are not the progenitors of the sowing and the seed.

"In the forums, the mighty forums, ... umbaway..."

I kinda liked that metaphor but its not squeezable into what I do and might make peopel think I've flipped if I use it - "seeds of men" and all that. Maybe I should get into sermon writing as a sideline. The "Friday Thread" can be the "Bishop's Sunday Sermon"!

Okay, time for me to put my slap on and enter the hurlyburly of life. Turn off Radio4 (internet version). Take a cup of coffee and greet the day.

It seems to me that there is no shortage of "sowers" and "seed, in either RL or SL. It's the "Harvesters" who may be in shorter supply.

I don't have kids, and don't want kids, even though I like kids. But I have nieces and a nephew to take care of my occasional spurts of the maternal urge. I want to be neither an SL mummy, nor an SL kid, but have no general criticisms of, or objections to those who do.

I am willing to bet that Pep is wrong about this ( ): I suspect that the reasons for wanting a child avatar, or to be an SL parent, go far deeper and are much more personal than is suggested by reference to mere parental status in RL.

If you are willing to bet then start a poll.

Pep (I'm confident that those who play kids are childless)