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The Lord of the Flies - Child AVs and the Nursery Syndrome

Argent Stonecutter
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09-17-2009 13:35
From: Pussycat Catnap
I cannot conceive of any valid reason for a child avatar to be hanging out in a sex club, or under the sign of a rotating penis, or next to that breast-pump while strapped down and 'having things done to her' animation I ran into the other day on a Japanese build...
How about in the middle of a sim like Zindra, where there's nothing but grass? Or in a skybox owned by a friend who happens to live in an Adult-rated sim?
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Pussycat Catnap
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09-17-2009 13:38
From: Argent Stonecutter
How about in the middle of a sim like Zindra, where there's nothing but grass? Or in a skybox owned by a friend who happens to live in an Adult-rated sim?


If I can be naked on a sexbed in a skybox owned by a friend who happens to live in a PG-rated sim... sure. Or if I can be naked on a sexbed in the middle of an empty PG-sim, where there's nothing but grass... sure.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-17-2009 13:39
From: Pussycat Catnap
If I can be naked on a sexbed in a skybox owned by a friend who happens to live in a PG-rated sim... sure. Or if I can be naked on a sexbed in the middle of an empty PG-sim, where there's nothing but grass... sure.
That makes absolutely no sense.
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Pussycat Catnap
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09-17-2009 13:49
From: Argent Stonecutter
That makes absolutely no sense.


Its your argument, not mine. I'm only guessing it made sense to you when you posted it.
Holocluck Henly
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09-17-2009 13:52
From: Argent Stonecutter
That makes absolutely no sense.


Me neither. LOL

Maybe she means if there's a field of grass in Zindra and an SLKid is standing there

Other than the initial rollout when the adult content rules were not in effect, and despite the infohubs being no-sex, no-profanity, and no-nudity safe zones, I don't know of any SLKids child avatars who have ventured into Zindra since it's become actively inhabited.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-17-2009 13:52
From: Pussycat Catnap
Its your argument, not mine. I'm only guessing it made sense to you when you posted it.
No, it's not, you know it's not, but it's clear you're not interested in taking this seriously so, ciao.
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Rasecel Masatada
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09-17-2009 17:00
Wonders what Charles Lutwidge Dodgson would have to say about all this.
Milla Janick
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09-17-2009 17:14
From: Pussycat Catnap
If I can be naked on a sexbed in a skybox owned by a friend who happens to live in a PG-rated sim... sure. Or if I can be naked on a sexbed in the middle of an empty PG-sim, where there's nothing but grass... sure.

So it's okay with you for others to act within the limits of the TOS as long as you're permitted to violate the TOS?
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Jig Chippewa
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09-17-2009 17:18
From: Rasecel Masatada
Wonders what Charles Lutwidge Dodgson would have to say about all this.


I don't think he would know what we were talking about. He was really asexual, don't you think?
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-17-2009 17:22
From: Rasecel Masatada
Wonders what Charles Lutwidge Dodgson would have to say about all this.
"Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else — if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing."

"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
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Jig Chippewa
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09-17-2009 17:23
From: Argent Stonecutter
"Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else — if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing."

"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"


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Rasecel Masatada
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09-17-2009 17:49
From: Jig Chippewa
I don't think he would know what we were talking about. He was really asexual, don't you think?


Oh I don't know about that. Some schools of thought suspected that he had a thing for the young girl that Alice was based on. Other schools of thought suspected that he was having an affair with her mother.
Rasecel Masatada
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09-17-2009 17:50
From: Argent Stonecutter
"Well, in our country," said Alice, still panting a little, "you'd generally get to somewhere else — if you run very fast for a long time, as we've been doing."

"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"


To which Jig replied:
Lag

LOLOL!!!
Melita Magic
On my own terms.
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09-17-2009 23:54
If someone is properly roleplaying a child or teen avatar in Second Life, then there is NOTHING sexual whatsoever about it.

Except perhaps in the head of a few obsessive individuals; in which case, THEY really need to examine their OWN thoughts and heart - seriously. Perhaps some things that need to be worked out in the privacy of a therapist's office.

(It is just about as silly as claiming that all animal avatars secretly wish to play roadkill. To most it would be anathema.)
Pserendipity Daniels
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09-18-2009 01:19
From: Melita Magic
If someone is properly roleplaying a teen avatar in Second Life, then there is NOTHING non-sexual whatsoever about it.
Fixed it for ya!

Sorry, Mel, have you not been around rl teenagers recently?

Pep (I have, and it's tiring.)
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Marianne McCann
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09-18-2009 01:20
From: Melita Magic
If someone is properly roleplaying a child or teen avatar in Second Life, then there is NOTHING sexual whatsoever about it.

Except perhaps in the head of a few obsessive individuals; in which case, THEY really need to examine their OWN thoughts and heart - seriously.



THIS
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Pserendipity Daniels
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09-18-2009 01:31
From: http://www.livestrong.com/article/12504-teen-pregnancy-rates-usa/
The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the industrialized world. The Center for Disease control says that one-third of girls get pregnant before the age of 20. Teenpregnancy.org, a site managed by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, states that there are "750,000 teen pregnancies annually. Eight in ten of these pregnancies are unintended and 81 percent are to unmarried teens."

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*THIS*

Pep ("NOTHING sexual whatsoever"? :rolleyes: )
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Melita Magic
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09-18-2009 02:04
Pep, that's real life. Not SL. I do know the difference!
Abigail Merlin
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09-18-2009 02:19
Pep, you got me a bit confused with your link to teen pregnancies.
Are you saying SL Teens have to stay limited because they can not be played to mimic their RL counterparts fully as it has been the past 2 and half years or that it should be alowed for SL Teens to mimic their RL counterparts and have sex with their peers like it was early 2007?
Pserendipity Daniels
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09-18-2009 02:37
I am saying that suggesting that accurate role play of teens (in sl or anywhere else) would require acknowledgement of the massive part that sexuality plays during those fraught years.

Pep (Otherwise it's like all those movies where no-one ever goes to the bathroom except to get beaten up or have a "conference".)
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Abigail Merlin
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09-18-2009 02:58
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I am saying that suggesting that accurate role play of teens (in sl or anywhere else) would require acknowledgement of the massive part that sexuality plays during those fraught years.

Pep (Otherwise it's like all those movies where no-one ever goes to the bathroom except to get beaten up or have a "conference".)

In other words either don't play SL teens accurate because even mentioning that your character has underage sex can get you ARed or go back to the way it was before early 2007 but you are not saying what your preferance is or you do not have a preferance in it.
Darion Rasmuson
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09-18-2009 04:15
From: Pserendipity Daniels


Pep (Otherwise it's like all those movies where no-one ever goes to the bathroom except to get beaten up or have a "conference".)

Hmm, should I build an out house in my garden? Considering I haven't ...relieved myself since I rezzed in.. I mean, I didn't know that kind of realism was called for, ya know? :(
Melita Magic
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09-18-2009 04:28
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I am saying that suggesting that accurate role play of teens (in sl or anywhere else) would require acknowledgement of the massive part that sexuality plays during those fraught years.

Pep (Otherwise it's like all those movies where no-one ever goes to the bathroom except to get beaten up or have a "conference".)


But no one DOES go to the bathroom in Second Life.

Unless they specifically choose to go there. No pun intended.

You're also stretching the juxtaposition of an unrelated RL article to the breaking point if you are saying that because some RL teens have sex with each other, then all SL avatar teens must be having sex in SL? Or are you putting a different interpretation on 'proper roleplay' of adolescence than I am? Teen does not equal 'sexual' in my book.

I do not equate adolescence with sexually active - again that's in the minds of some, but NOT all and it should not be assumed of child/minor avs in SL.

Your argument is a bit muddled, Pep. To be honest I'm unsure how any of your points connect.
Imnotgoing Sideways
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09-18-2009 05:22
From: Melita Magic
But no one DOES go to the bathroom in Second Life.

Unless they specifically choose to go there. No pun intended.

You're also stretching the juxtaposition of an unrelated RL article to the breaking point if you are saying that because some RL teens have sex with each other, then all SL avatar teens must be having sex in SL? Or are you putting a different interpretation on 'proper roleplay' of adolescence than I am? Teen does not equal 'sexual' in my book.

I do not equate adolescence with sexually active - again that's in the minds of some, but NOT all and it should not be assumed of child/minor avs in SL.

Your argument is a bit muddled, Pep. To be honest I'm unsure how any of your points connect.
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I ~do~ get where Pep is coming from, though. The way kid and teen avatars are restricted in SL there would NEVER be a way to re-live and duplicate ALL the things I've done while growing up. (>_<;)

I won't go into details, but, knowing where dad's pr0n-cabinet key was and his week-on/week-off work schedule made for some interesting nights with friends over since about 7 or 9 years old for me. (^_^)

/me runs off to play "doctor". (^_^)y
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Darion Rasmuson
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09-18-2009 05:45
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
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I ~do~ get where Pep is coming from, though. The way kid and teen avatars are restricted in SL there would NEVER be a way to re-live and duplicate ALL the things I've done while growing up. (>_<;)

I won't go into details, but, knowing where dad's pr0n-cabinet key was and his week-on/week-off work schedule made for some interesting nights with friends over since about 7 or 9 years old for me. (^_^)

/me runs off to play "doctor". (^_^)y

I had older brothers who had their collections. But then.. They were all about girls. Fascinating in a way but.. meh. :D
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