Or Sydney, or elsewhere in the civilized world.
An interesting proposition.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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06-17-2009 14:04
Or Sydney, or elsewhere in the civilized world. An interesting proposition. Pep ("Tolerance of dickheads dressed up as dickheads defines civilisation": discuss.) _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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06-17-2009 14:04
i would think if a land owner says child avatars are allowed around sexual content on their land.. that land owner would also be putting their land and themselves at risk..did anything happen to the land owner in that situation since they were obviously going against the rules LL put down??
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3Ring Binder
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06-17-2009 14:08
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37228082@N05/3632640185/ (Possibly NSFW) Mari, this is the picture i took. you were BEHIND me and a little to my left when this shot was taken. all accounts by Mari and Nimue are accurate and EXACTLY how the night progressed. any other embellishments by people (whom i've not met) are purely exaggerated and meant to inflame an innocent gathering. there was nothing to this gathering beyond some drilling of Blondin for answers about this n that, and some dancing and giant avatar exhibiting to break the awkward silence. too bad Blondin won't come in here and clear this up. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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06-17-2009 14:09
The issue I brought up is a legitimate concern because I've been a victim of it unwittingly. While on a nude beach (where sex does occur), minding my own business and cammed away from my own AV, a naked child AV and an adult av settled into the chair next to me and cuddled. Without even knowing why, I was chastized in IM by a responding Linden, and had to almost literally "fight for my life" because the screenshot for the AR that happened apparently was at an angle that had my naked AV in the background. Those involved were banned, even one of the banana-wearing noobs who was standing too close and obviously didn't know any better. The same thing would've happened if I had been having sex there with an adult and a child AV merely sat down by us. The responsibility for everyone ELSE (who wasn't actively participating with said child AV) getting in trouble lies squarely on that child AV's presence. They shouldn't have been there, but they were ALLOWED to be so that was incentive to push the limit and put others at risk as well. Deny it or not, call it panic if you like, but the concern about unintentional depictions as viewed from a 3rd parties eyes is a very real one. But that's not something to worry about, particularly, because it could almost as easily happen with no child avatar, no sex, and no bedroom. Just at random. Trying to avoid G-Team incompetence is like trying to avoid cosmic rays. |
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Ceka Cianci
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06-17-2009 14:14
Mari, this is the picture i took. you were BEHIND me and a little to my left when this shot was taken. all accounts by Mari and Nimue are accurate and EXACTLY how the night progressed. any other embellishments by people (whom i've not met) are purely exaggerated and meant to inflame an innocent gathering. there was nothing to this gathering beyond some drilling of Blondin for answers about this n that, and some dancing and giant avatar exhibiting to break the awkward silence. too bad Blondin won't come in here and clear this up. that is the worst penis in the world lol are you sure it's not a rocket ship? lol ![]() _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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06-17-2009 14:16
that is the worst penis in the world lol are you sure it's not a rocket ship? lol ![]() ![]() |
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
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06-17-2009 14:16
I doubt it would actually play out that way, but let's assume for the nonce that it would. What we know for a dead certainty is that G-Team will continue bumbling along, banning and blessing indiscriminately, on Adult and Mature and PG land, just as they always have. So *if* one could get banned on Zindra for doing the naughty when a child avatar happens by, one could get banned for the same "offense" in one's own Mature bedroom. But that's not something to worry about, particularly, because it could almost as easily happen with no child avatar, no sex, and no bedroom. Just at random. Trying to avoid G-Team incompetence is like trying to avoid cosmic rays. Not even a year ago when the previus G-team leader was still in charge nudety involving a child av and adult av was in itself no problem, it depended on context, now with the new G-team this has changed to all nudety witha child-av and adult av is not alowed forcing many naturist areas to change their rules or close |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-17-2009 14:18
I get that a lot too. Well, not the "rocket ship" thing so much. ![]() Awwww.......poor Qie. _____________________
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Lexxi Gynoid
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06-17-2009 14:25
why not? well, for one thing, you can't rez the poseballs on LL land... Yes you can. They have LL land with rez turned on. Even on Zindra. |
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Dana Hickman
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06-17-2009 14:27
did anything happen to the land owner in that situation since they were obviously going against the rules LL put down?? that land owner put you all at risk.. No, they were unaware of it till after the fact, and have since changed their rules to no kid AV's at all.. and yes they DID put the rest of us at risk because they were being a little cool about it and giving the kid residents the benefit of the doubt. There's much more than nude/sex areas there, and they were TRYING to be human and not deny them access to the rest of it. Well, that turned out well.. So *if* one could get banned on Zindra for doing the naughty when a child avatar happens by, one could get banned for the same "offense" in one's own Mature bedroom. Technically, yes concidering the wide berth they give the G-team for discretion. Though in private it matters if that kid AV was allowed or invited I'd think.. in public it would be the land owner, and anyone they thought was near enough to have made or contributed to the bad depiction. I've seen it. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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06-17-2009 14:34
Technically, yes concidering the wide berth they give the G-team for discretion. Though in private it matters if that kid AV was allowed or invited I'd think.. in public it would be the land owner, and anyone they thought was near enough to have made or contributed to the bad depiction. I've seen it. ![]() |
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3Ring Binder
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06-17-2009 14:37
Yes you can. They have LL land with rez turned on. Even on Zindra. really? this is actually great news. i've never found a rezzable piece of LL land, but i'll try harder from now on! _____________________
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Dana Hickman
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06-17-2009 14:39
That does it then. I'm going to wear a Zyngo machine from now on. It seems to be a guarantee of immunity from G-Team. ![]() Ok, that's hilarious ![]() _____________________
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
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06-17-2009 15:12
Yes you can. They have LL land with rez turned on. Even on Zindra. I have not seen any during my exploration of zindra, even the rez zones for cars where still turned off |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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06-17-2009 15:16
I have not seen any during my exploration of zindra, even the rez zones for cars where still turned off _____________________
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Molly Montale
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06-17-2009 17:08
For what it is worth... both the elephant and the penis were terrible dancers.
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Phil Deakins
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06-17-2009 17:22
The responsibility for everyone ELSE (who wasn't actively participating with said child AV) getting in trouble lies squarely on that child AV's presence. _____________________
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Marcush Nemeth
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06-17-2009 17:23
Child av + sex continent = Last time I went to school, I was still not allowed to add up 5 apples and 3 oranges to make 8 appanges. |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-17-2009 17:24
Last time I went to school, I was still not allowed to add up 5 apples and 3 oranges to make 8 appanges. That was before "No Child Left Behind" though _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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06-17-2009 17:39
In a recent thread, I posted on the side of child avs in SL naturism, but I have to say that your story shows the whole child av in a different light for me. I'm sure the resort Dana was at didn't allow kid AVs at all, and her extremely stupid cuddling neighbors were either out to knowingly violate the rules/TOS/CS or were not yet informed of LL's rules on the matter. (>_< ![]() I'd assume the latter, considering how fine-print-ish the (sexual)ageplay rules are. (=_=)y _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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06-17-2009 17:47
That was before "No Child Left Behind" though i know a few of those.. One works for the water department now..He shut off our water one time thinking it was the house next door.. He couldn't grasp that the valve on the left turned off the house infront and the valve on the right turned off the house on the left..Why they had put them that way i have no idea..But there were only two valves Oo After hearing us explain it over and over to try to make him understand..He just scratched his head the whole time then finally became frustrated and turned the water back on..Then said he had to go to the office to figure this one out..Told us he would be back later and never came back.. lol _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-17-2009 17:50
Did you see the poor SOB who had his house bulldozed last week?
They were supposed to wreck the house next door or something._____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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06-17-2009 18:01
Did you see the poor SOB who had his house bulldozed last week? They were supposed to wreck the house next door or something.not much surprises me anymore in things like that. I used to think you really had to know what you were doing to work for a city or get behind those big machines.. I was so wrong..It's just knowing someone to get them in for easy pensions.. _____________________
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Jesse Barnett
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06-17-2009 19:13
Wonder if we could get Illusion Games of Japan to buy LL and then we could use Hong Fire forums also. This thread would be pointless then
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Dana Hickman
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06-17-2009 19:22
In a recent thread, I posted on the side of child avs in SL naturism, but I have to say that your story shows the whole child av in a different light for me. I also posted in favor of that, and I still would as long as there's nothing sex related going on in the area. My stance changes when a location has animations with a pink and blue ball, and are NOT dances. To be fair. Dana's example was in reference to a naturist resort that allowed and probably provided for sex. The resort/beach I'm involved in doesn't allow sex and banning from the group is swift for anyone who gets caught. Yes, they do allow and provide for sex. I'm sure the resort Dana was at didn't allow kid AVs at all, and her extremely stupid cuddling neighbors were either out to knowingly violate the rules/TOS/CS or were not yet informed of LL's rules on the matter. Actually no, they DID previously allow them full access and relied on the individuals to use a bit of common friggin sense. That common sense didn't happen so NOW they are completely banned from the place. IMO When sex is in the air, and the location allows or provides for sex, kid AV's become *dangerous* to have around. Not for what/who they are, but for how it may look in passing to some prissy, AR-happy crusader. It only takes one bad assumption to make it to AR text and it's over. EDIT: I also appologise for my harsh stance. I really do like the kiddies, but I have to draw the line at access to public adult/sex areas. This is the only case I feel this way about, but it really IS one of those "you have to be *this* tall to ride the ride" things... just like the RL fair rides. Safety for all involved. _____________________
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