Do things ever change?

This sounds very hypocritical... You don't like her opinion of what is best for the community yet you seem to think your opinion of what is best for the community is better and he can't have one?

I have noticed even in the new products less and less people seem to putting new product announcements in there.
Is it because they are creating less, or just tired of the crap shoot with the forums (the inability to attach photos without clearing the old ones out first) among other issues that happen off and on

could that be the same reason the other forums get used less too?

OK, then I really do misunderstand your original post, and your follow up posts. My sincere apologies.



You're a better person than I, then. Of course, mine would be a benevolent dictatorship. Really!



All I can tell you is what I think you said. I am honestly saying that I'm not trying to twist your words - I really did read them the way I said I did.

Could it be that if LL doesn't care about the forums, why should the residents?

She.

Changed to she.

I will admit some of your threads take me back a little, and I am left wondering if I should try to reply, but that is not a bad thing, as it gets me to thinking about things.
I have never seen you hurt anyone, let alone intentionally.

I too am not here to try to hurt folks, and if I have ever said anything that has hurt someone, I am sorry. I am the same here as I am in RL, which is a complex human being with many different views on life and many many opinions on things. Sometimes I voice those thoughts and opinions, and just like in RL, sometimes my words just don't come out right, and I end up being misunderstood, I chalk that up to being human, and anyone that can not accept humanity, is someone I do not wish to know.



so true

one day we will all be gone from here and I have to wonder, will things be the same as they are now..

Mine is more of an "it is what it is" opinion. It has settled to be what the community at large wants it to be. However, I do retract my claims about what Rha believes contrary to what she's stated.

see the thing is though, even after I explained that what you thought I meant by my words, was not what I meant

yet you still tried to tell me, what I meant by my words

I can not control how others see my words and thus interpret them, all I can do is correct them if their assumptions are incorrect.

And if they do not accept that, then so be it, they will see it how they want, not how I meant it

because WE are the ones who use it!!

should the carpenter who builds your house care how you use it, or should you care how you use it?

would the guy who makes you a toaster care if you burn your toast, or toast it to a nice golden brown... or should you be the one to set the knobs and care about your toaster and toast?

I personally think WE are the ones who should care, and who should be the ones to make the forums a place people will enjoy coming to.

And I still can't reconcile what you wrote with what you say it means.

But then, I don't need to. /me shrugs

Well, in the case of house builders - the ones who actually care about the houses they build tend to build better houses.

thank you


because personally I feel it is wrong to tell someone what they believe...

It would be like me claiming that all your posts here are just you trying to start a fight with me, because that is how I see them...

I am pretty sure though, that is not what your intent is

but what if I kept telling you, that your intent was to start a fight.. no matter what you said...

That is how your posts came across to me, as though you were telling me what I meant... not so much as how you saw it, but because you saw it a certain way, that it must be the way that I meant it

that is because you do not want to... you WANT to see it a specific way, no matter what I say, even though they are MY words.

*shrug*

anywho, happy sunday all, sorry could not wait till friday for this thread

I am gonna go see what is on TV

see you all later (maybe)

I think the reason we use the forums to discuss the general state of affairs is because to do so in world is unweildy. You could not easily have posted such a chunk of text in world in chat or IM, for instance. It could be done, but would fill up the screen and make people go "GAHH!" or some such.

I find the RA forum a fantastic supplement to the in world experience. I grow weary of all the griping too, but still learn some great new stuff. Just today, right here in RA, I was informed of a gadget called Sculpt Studio I was unaware of - and it sounds really cool.

There are other public forums that could serve the same purpose, but I found them (it, rather) too coarse for my tastes. Nothing wrong with being coarse, I'm just over it.

I also really enjoy trying to find deeper meaning in the SL experiment. Jig's questions, like them or not, are usually along these lines and never fail to at least get me thinking.

Rhaorth,

Plus it doesn't help anyone's nerves that we are living in a historical moment. We have no idea what this downturn in the economy is going to be called yet but it will have some name. People are just now getting a glimpse as to how bad it is and are beginning to understand it is going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better. Because of the many hats I wear I will be one of the last people to be let go at my company. But it isn't a question of if, but when. It may not be for another 6 months but it will happen.

Our company does the structural steel for new buildings and we are in the Washington, DC are, which by it's nature has always been resistant to recessions. But now the most important indicator we have is how busy the architects are. Unfortunately they are doing nothing, zero, zilch, no design work. No one is buying buildings, no one is buying cars, no on is buying homes. I will be very surprised if we do not hit 10% unemployment rate in the country by the end of the year.

We will all eventually weather this financial storm but it might help if we keep reminding ourselves of the tremendous pressure others here may be under. I know I myself come up short with people at times, including having words with you in some silly thread or another at one point. But as things get worse, this forum may end up being one of the few sources of strength we have and SL may be one of the few escapes. It costs me nothing to be here outside of the cost of internet.

just a thought

Now who's telling who what they believe? Or is that "whom"? I never get it right.

QFT

Pep (I'll put *that* in my sig . . . )

LOL, as long as I'm in your sig.

personally I love the carm....um camerar...damn

personally I love the warm fuzzy feeling I get when I see people chatting together and having a good time I love silly things like kitty threads and once a question has been answered, it is a great deal of fun to watch the hijacking commence.

I have never seen anyone post a question in RA and not have it answered (unless of course the question is ambiguous, trollish, or a survey). On rare occasions I see little conflicts (and they usually involve the same few people) which is good for a laugh and a drama-feed, but it isn't a big deal. As long as resident questions get answered, is it so wrong that people have a bit of fun as well?

Edit: 39 new threads in "new products - clothing and accessories" just yesterday and today.

There was a huge change when they got rid of the general discussion area and a whole lot of people left because of that. I think the general state of the board today is from the lack of any good moderation on the part of LL. I mean the constant churning up of old threads and the useless arguments that derail threads ought to be taken care of quickly. Small changes I think would really help make the board a little nicer.

when i used to come here to get an answer it always surprised me how fast the response time was in getting an answer..
most times the questions are answered in the first few posts..

myself i think what you have is a bunch of people that like to help and have a lot in common and they found a place they could come together and help and socialize as well..

most of the threads are already finished before the play begins..but i think without that little bit of fun or the discussions or whatever in an already finished thread..people would be bored and not hang in the forums and questions would sit there a lot longer before being answered.

i think people do a great job in the goal of the section..
sure some threads kick the dog to death..i don't see it hurting anything if they are not blocking new questions or problems from being answered..i think they do more troll blocking in my opinion..
trolls get outnumbered pretty fast from what i've seen hehehehee

I always have found this forum interesting and check it several times a day. However, my very first post here was almost my last due to being verbally assaulted almost immediately....there does seem to be a high level of folks willing to be insulting, resort to name calling and generally act in a nasty way toward each other. I think that keeps alot of the folks who simply want to ask a question running for cover once they read the kind of responses they are likely to get.

I think the types of topics and variety are fine...i do NOT believe that the venom and nastiness is acceptable ever. In some ways it is the thing that weeds out those who dont have the stomach for it...so the pot is full of those who are ok with sniping and the ones who have true questions and a kinder gentler manner prob are just lurking.

Personally I never understood why in the heck LL didn't go ahead and offer Strife a job.

"It's only a Forum. No one dies."