Not crude or lude, just nude!

We need to develope a better system of regulating them then. It's all well and good releasing chemicals to supress pain when one suffers an injury - but the human brain's extravagence in pumping them out whilly-nilly all the live-long day is just apalling.

I think he has me confused now. I thought he said you get the high before the feeling, and then said you get the feeling before the high. In my mind, you have to have the feeling before you get the high. Like a runner's high. You don't get it just thinking about running, you have to actually do it before you get the side affect.

Normally I'll tell people when I'm trolling, after a decent period of lol. Again, though, I feel you have skimmed over my posts and chosen not to read them. Go back to page 6 and try again.

The problem is that right or not in a Scientific sense, following Conan's proposed view takes all the flavor out of life without giving any worthwhile reward.

I like to call it "burning calories."

To clarify; you get the external stimulus (Freddy Prinz Jr asking you to the prom), then you get the chemical release, which in turn causes the feeling (the high). That's what I said and that's what I stick by.

Or "watching chick flicks and eating chocolate"

It doesnt though honey. They usually only popup when you need them most. I know, my endorphines, packed their bags a long time ago and left town. If I am in pain I have to do some sort of physical activity to bring a smidge of them back and help with my pain.

Oddly enough, that was my arguement in favour of the supression of emotion too.

Right, so emotional attachment is not just a chemical high then. The feeling brings that on.

No, that is the complete opposite of what I said. The "feeling" is the high. A feeling is just a sensation brought on by the presence of chemical stimulants.

I totally disagree. If you don't have feelings, you might as well be dead.

That's a mighty big leap of logic there. So your purpose in life is to be high on drugs? Without being high on drugs, you have no reason to live? What about being of use to society? Doesn't that figure anywhere?

Good grief! THX 1138 - 1984-Clockwork Orange!!!!


Eek...me runs screaming in an overly emotional state

Yeah I know. I just wanted to point out that every thing that we are is physical; that our every personality trait/thoughts/emotions are just basically a bunch of chemicals moving around in our brains. (Truth! Did you know that cholesterol makes up a lot of the brain! That's why some of the drugs that dissolve cholesterol are bad news. They literally melt your brain.)

That doesn't make life very fun, of course. If I had no thoughts or emotions, I wouldn't be me. You wouldn't be you. We'd all be about as interesting as the average slug, personality-wise.

For what it's worth, I do believe in "love" but I recognize it for what it really is, and that it's not necessary for health or well-being.

If emotions are no longer useful, then the enjoyment you get from sex isn't useful either.

Since sex is designed to transmit genetic material and create a new strand of combined DNA (and that's obviously not your goal), then the feelings of euphoria that climax produce are what? Something to be put aside as no longer useful.

DNA can be extracted mechanically and introduced into organic systems - thus releiving our 'evolved' selves from the visceral and animalistic throes of copulation.

If you are after the 'feelings' that are encoded down at the core of our DNA, you really cant discount things like the emotion they evoke like you have in your earlier posts.

why give up the flavor of life?

Seems pointless.

As pointless as you rallying against the belief in God, If you are right - It won't matter if people spent their time believing.

Same with emotions, what do you gain suppressing them?

The mere fact that these chemicals are a response to external stimuli doesn't change my argument.

That is what you said. Looks to me like you said the emotional feelings bring on the chemical high.

Anything's better than "10,000 BC."

Besides, "Bring It On" had some of the best. Lines. Evar.

I agree. I have been in a relationship for 7 years and so no longer seek out casual sex.

To be frank, I don't care if many of you consider that what I am about to say means I must have something wrong with me, I'm going to say it anyway. I have never had an emotional response to sex. Never. Not even with my partner of 7 years. Not once.

10,000 BC wasn't that bad. Could have done with more fight scenes though.

great point .. but even this isn't far enough.

On a cosmic scale humanity if nothing. A rounding error in the smallest decimal point. We may as well not exist at all.

It literally doesn't matter what neurochemical processes go on in the human brain, since our whole existence is moot.

No, you are wrong. I said external stimuli. How do you confuse that with feelings? An "external stimuli" means "something that happens in the world around you".

No honey, I didnt say that. I said a life without feelings isnt really worth living. Being a use to society usually gives people a feeling of accomplishment. That to me is a feeling. You don't have a pet? A relative you love? Something in your life that you actually enjoy doing? Really, why bother then?

Because I am alive, and therefore may as well do something while I'm here.