Not crude or lude, just nude!

Must be very boring for you. A blow up doll or sleeve would do the same trick, then there would be no emotional attachment that you would have to participate in. Personally I find sometimes that men are more needy in that aspect than women.

Are you having a bad day honey?

Well.....actually.....

Do we really know for sure? /me giggles

Well mine are prettier and probably not nearly as hairy.

Nope. I'm just a pragmatist. Emotions are just chemical reactions that no longer serve a purpose, and therefore have no place any more. If it were up to me, that movie Equilibrium would be what we'd be aiming for.

I suspect that, if you have found men to be more needy, then you've been dating the wrong guys and need to try a real man

Pics or it didn't happen.

I must disagree that men have no need for emotional attachment. I think that is part of the species makeup. Grant you, some of us -men and women - are more or less emotional - but emotions do exist. We haven't gotten that Vulcan thing down pat If one is actually unemotional, I would hazard a guess there is some deeper lying issue that would need looking into.

I think you misunderstand me. No one, of either gender, has any need for emotional attachment - it's a want; a luxury. They can be eliminated with sufficient mental will. It doesn't come naturally, it's true, but it is entirely achievable.

Mum?

/me has to giggle and laugh at him. Throws him a dead tree stump

The same can be said of God.

If what you want is casual sex your attitude works fine... And, I believe there are just as many women as men out there sharing this attitude. Please don't equate your shallow quest for pussy (as you so elegantly term it) with dignity. One who dismisses approximately half our human family as worthless receptacles hasn't a clue about true dignity.

Both men and women are constantly subjected to demeaning and demoralizing messages by popular culture and the media. We can either whine about it, or rise above it, and decide to live more meaningful lives.

/me shrugs

Don't know why I open myself up for your flaming, but it's really demoralizing to read posts by someone I think is fairly young, and see the same 1950's attitudes our mothers, and in some cases grandmothers had to face.

But why would that be a goal to strive for?
Yes there is pain at times- but there is so much joy as well- I am so very glad for the emotions I have felt here- I am so very happily in love - I cannot imagine being with out them. I wouldn't give that feeling up just because we might part one day.

I think you have problems reading. My attitude places men and women on an entirely equal footing. We both have things we want; we both have things the other person wants; if the other person is amenable to coming to an arrangement then it's all good - if not then why waste time and effort on a fruitless task? Move on to the next round of negotiations instead.

Because they are not real. They're chemical highs, just like the high a crack addict gets. There is nothing to distinguish them.

I have no time for childen's fairytales either.

Allegria - don't confuse old school with what (I believe, I could be wrong) Conan proposes. The men in the fifties and before, they did not see women as nothing but receptacles. They treated (mostly, not always, I am sure) women with respect. My mother was damn happy to take care of her man- nothing wrong with that.

But isn't it the feeling that brings that on not the other way around.

I'm sorry Conan.

Yes emotion is a chemical induced euphoria - so what? I am an animal and happy to be one- grant you I stand upright and consider myself semi-rational at the right time. I am not willing to cast of the things that make me human.

And, no- I don't need fairy tales either.

No, it's just a chemical stimulant in your brain. That's all emotions are; drugs. Literally. Endorphines and the like. The mere fact that these chemicals are a response to external stimuli doesn't change my argument. There is nothing to be gained by them. They won't pay my bills, they won't buy me a bigger house and they won't fix the leak in the U-bend of my toilet that I really have been meaning to fix but just keep forgetting until I go in there and see it, but usually it's too late by then because I've got to leave for work, and the bus driver always tries to sneak past without stopping. What were we talking about again?

Technically, he's right, girls. All thought and emotion is composed of the exchange of neurotransmitters between synapses in the brain. Once our brains send the same charges along the same pathways between groups of synapses, it becomes habitual, and therefore is a recognized "emotion" like love or whatever. That's why riding a bicycle is never forgotten; it's "burned" into your brain. All emotions are just burned pathways. Sad but true.

We just like to think of it more romantically.

But endorphines will stop your pain. Anyone that is without them will wish that they had them.

Yes, i think some women were very happy with their roles, and I'm not demeaning that. But I think it's true that women were slotted into roles, and didn't have nearly the choices the next generation did. So Conan sees women a sexual objects with no purpose but the satisfaction of his desire, and the 1950's women were homemakers and helpmeets. I'm generalizing shamelessly here, of course, there are plenty of men and women throughout history who interacted outside the boundaries of culturally defined roles.

LOL, I need to work now... I really think Conan is trolling, hahaha, he loves to get ppl all stirred up.