Not crude or lude, just nude!

The problem isn't necessarily using sex animations. The problem is the sex-seekers following people around and IMing them, or requesting publicly, sex. Put the word "nude" in the area description, and the area will be a magnet for that.

If you have a butt ugly, badly out of proportion AV, PUT SOME CLOTHES ON NOW!!!

If you are animal or machine based (for example: the furries, animals, or my tiny robot AV), no one questions you on wearing clothing or not.

It all depends on the look of the AV

I consider that the nature of an object is defined by it's purpose. Thus, vagina's are sexual in nature. I have no desire to graduate. Nor, for that matter, to talk to a girl if sex is not on the cards. What would be the point in that?

Not so much a prelude as an opening sweetener in the negotiations. Otherwise, we'd be happy to let you pay.

Yeah notice that too as a child av chapechanger, I can be without clothes in any furry or feral form but when I'm human or neko I can't even take a shower in my own home without the risk of getting ARed by someone panning his cam around.

Hmm, I have seen a number of mature areas in SL where people can be nude without hassle that are not are not overtly sexual (I believe there is a beautiful area in Patria where nude yoga has been known to take place).

And there is a company called Thrust that sells a fig leaf attachment for men.

I go to Solana Beach sometimes. It's clothing optional and has lovely gardens as well as beach and dancefloor. I wouldn't say that people don't have sex there but it's not the main thing and not why I go there. I just go there to chill and dance or swim, as well as chat.

Wow, and that's the precise attitude that most girls I know say gets the sex taken off the card in the first place.

Well actually when I first went Furry, while hanging out in a lot of mainly human areas, I did get a few people question my nudity in IM, so it was easier and more stylish to wear clothes so as not to be confused with the more common nekkid Kangaroos roaming the grid

It's also the attitude that makes hunting for sex more efficient. Since I don't usually waste time talking to girls who aren't going to put out, I can maximise my efficiency and make best use of my time. Plus, attitude and demeanour are not the same thing - attitudes exist inside your own head, where even girls can't see. It's easy enough just to smile and nod and pretend to be listening. The irony of women thinking they have power over men because they can withhold sex always makes me chuckle (like that t-shirt that says "I have the pussy, I make the rules" that ugly girls often wear) - the world is full of girls who will put out for the price of a sandwich, which automatically robs the ones who don't of any power they think they have.

'Witholding' sex implies that someone is postponing it as a punishment or bargaining ploy, with the eventual intention of saying 'yes'.

I'm experienced at refusing sex, politely, and when I do that it's not some kind of flirty hard-to-get situation, its more a case of 'thanks, but no thanks....end of story'.

If a refused guy then goes and has sex with another woman that doesn't rob me of any power! I didn't want it, she did, that's cool with me.

Why should being naked imply we want sex any more than it implies we're desperate to go to the toilet? It's a silly theory!

Conan expresses it in a blunt and cynical manner, but basically he has to be taken seriously: Men want sex. It may or may not be sufficient for a relationship, but it is always necessary to him. See, that is what they must have in a mate, short-term or long-term; often a woman will settle for security. If there is no sex in the cards with woman A, a sensible man is not going to waste his time on her, no matter how wonderful her other qualities; he is going to move on to women B, C, D through ZZ and beyond. It only makes sense. If he thinks you are, or may become, sexually accessible to him, the beauty of your mind may or may not get his attention, depending on how classy a guy he is. But if you are not going to be accessible, as far as he is concerned, you are a - oh, dear, I'm going to get even more blunt and crass than Conan here, brace yourself - a, ah, dry hole. In more ways than one.

Bottom line, if you don't want sex, date gay men and join NOW. If you do, try to get away from the strategy of trying to lay guilt trips on men for wanting sex. That is so pre-1960s; it is very unlikely to work on any guy today.

Now Conifer is right on here, too.

Of course, I do have an axe to grind: I am in favor of anything that promotes an increase in the number of attractive, naked women.

I am a heterosexual male, and I approve this thread.

Good grief Har, you made me *blush* and that is hard to do.

By attitude I meant focus/motivation of a guys interaction with a girl, and no matter HOW much nodding and listening you do, a girl will still know... or at least be undecided about it until you tip your hand.. and you always do... you HAVE to to get where you want lol.

I have that shirt. The point of it is if you want THIS piece, you play by her rules or not at all. Simple... and as Conifer said, it's no sweat off the girls back if the guy doesn't measure up. At that point she could care less and would probably PREFER he go bother the ho's lmao.

Oh, please don't peg all us males for the same of attitude, yes that works for some men, and your point about not seeming accessable for sex is probably why any girl who does dress like a Nun has little interest of partners whether thay are good or not, except some males of course just completely wreck the ground for others with different attitudes. Finding a lady you are keen on and seems to be just playing hard to get, then she allows herself to get dragged off some neanderthal at a party then tells you next time you meet how much & why she hates men for example, when you are just about to ask her out
I've watched one with more charm & looks than me just sweep another lady away from me as his GF watches in tears, and the GF tells me it's alright, she still loves him and goes home with him after he finally emotionally drops the lady I was talking to like a brick so she leaves the party in tears, her bed she can lie in it. Perhaps some women see a male getting verbally or physically agressive defending their intention with them as a sign of security or something.
I agree whole hearty a lot of men are pigs driven entirely by sex, sex is of course a major drive for us particularly when young, but fortunately my drive is rather low unless I have emotional attachment, so if I avoid that life is a cruise, and partners if anything find I can hold out longer than them if they try and lever me with withholding, till they wish to communicate emotionally with me, and I just can't be bothered competing anymore for the throwaways who are silly enough to invest their emotions so easily.
And one of my rules is you say "no" I take it as you meaning "no" and will stop courting you, if you meant maybe or not yet, you'd indicate that................

But then again, I'm a bit of a frootloop...............

I see no benefit in emotional attachment. It is both impractical and inefficient with nothing to be gained from it.

Then everybody goes away happy. It's a win:win situation. The thing with the t-shirt is, I'm sorry to tell you, that your "piece" is no better than anyone elses and thus not worth putting effort into "earning". Why would anyone work hard to get something that is being given away for free a little further down the street so to speak?

Everything's about what women want these days. No one ever talks about what men want. Women constantly whine about being put under pressure by magazines and the media - well so are we. We're constantly being bombarded with subliminal, and not so subliminal, messages about what we are supposed to be providing for women. Well I for one will not jump through hoops just for pussy. I have something that most men have allowed women to rob them of; dignity. It's a straight swap - you can have what you want when I get what I want. If you're not happy with the arrangement, we can both walk away and move on.

Don't get me wrong; I don't hate women. I just view them in the same way that I view cats - they have their place in society I suppose, they have their uses, and they every right to go about their business unmolested; but they have none of the necessary qualities that I require in a platonic friend.

Since this thread has morphed way beyond where to go hang out (pardon the pun) nude with out sexual over tones… I want to address Conan’s last post. Not all women are reading the magazines. Not all women think men are pigs and not all women are out to emasculate men.

There are plenty of women who are very nicely in awe of the strong man type, still want doors opened etc and I might add, want sex just as much as men.

It’s very sad when women let themselves be talked into suppressing their sexuality in favor of “equality”. Respect is respect, yes – but we are not the same and I for one applaud the differences.

Men are under no illusions that women don't want sex. Infact, I admire women's cunning in the matter; most women want both the sex and the emotional attachment, while most men want the sex and consider the emotional attachment to be a fair price to pay for it. Women, thus, get both the things they want without having to give anything away, while men gain half as much and have to exchange something for it. Clever.

ahemmm, so you get the same enjoyment if I lay their dead as a corpse or actually participate. I hate to contradict, but I do believe some are better than others, this also goes for men. There is more than one way to rock your world, but if it's all the same to you, why bother?

Exactly.

Any hole's a goal.

That's why we're better than you.

lol
Most men perhaps. But I don't fall for it. Plus, I'm probably taller than you too, so I win.

On a serious note though; none of what I said belittles women at all. If some of you thought it did; well you're just stupid then and can't read (<------this bit belittles you. See the difference?). It's just that I see no reason why I should endeavour to cause my life to intersect with that of another person who cannot benefit me in any way.

My boobs are bigger than yours.