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04-30-2009 15:07
From: Amaranthim Talon
Five, you really need to get out more... Maybe your friends don't sit around and share their boudoir secrets with you, but I assure you - the 'weirdos' far out number the 'straights'. If you want to get right down to it- in some places the only 'acceptable' sexual activity Missionary. There are states where oral or anal are actually ILLEGAL. Doesn't men it doesn't happen though.
Yeah Amar, and do you know what: some people like to do it with the light on! :eek:

Pep (Kinda depends on your definition of weirdo/straight doesn't it?)
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04-30-2009 15:07
From: Harmony Levee
youd be surprised how common it is actually. Surprised me when I first got involved in it in RL.


Well I don't believe it is common. But I can see why BDSM fans wished it were common. Nobody wants to be seen as a pervert/deviant.
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04-30-2009 15:08
From: 3Ring Binder
freebies are damaging the economy in SL in general. BSDM will be no different in this aspect.


This.
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04-30-2009 15:09
From: Amaranthim Talon
Did you perhaps mean, 'barely existed for me'? 'Cause people have used the term for a very long time before SL even came inot existence.

NSFW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sm2.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM#Origins

Thing with SL is that it is a microcosm of life in general - so it takes all kinds is quite literal. There are pervs and prudes anywhere u look.

Also you have to factor in that SL allows you to do things you can't or won't do in RL. So for everyone who engages in a particular kinky game that does practice it in RL, there are probable 3 times as many who would like to, but can't, for a number of reasons.

BDSM is probably the best example.
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04-30-2009 15:10
From: Five Denver
Well I don't believe it is common. But I can see why BDSM fans wished it were common. Nobody wants to be seen as a pervert/deviant.


As opposed to being seen as closed minded and judgemental?
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04-30-2009 15:10
From: Amaranthim Talon
Five, you really need to get out more...


You wish...
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04-30-2009 15:13
From: Five Denver
Well I don't believe it is common. But I can see why BDSM fans wished it were common. Nobody wants to be seen as a pervert/deviant.


The truth of it is though. Most of society only sees the kinks and such of the lifestyle, not the true meaning behind it, which most knowledgeable lifestylers will agree with me, goes way deeper than yopur everyday average boyfriend/girlfriend stuff or your basic everyday vanilla relationship...which I'm not badmouthing at all but for me, eh boring.
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04-30-2009 15:14
From: Brenda Connolly
As opposed to being seen as closed minded and judgemental?


People can do whatever they like. I'm not against BDSM.
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04-30-2009 15:14
From: Five Denver
You wish...

Lol :)
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04-30-2009 15:15
From: Five Denver
Well I don't believe it is common. But I can see why BDSM fans wished it were common. Nobody wants to be seen as a pervert/deviant.

Someone get Five a link to the Deviant Thread :D Five - around here it's a badge worn with pride. But not by me of course. I am not at all deviant - nope, not me, uh-uh, not at all.
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04-30-2009 15:15
You don't need to worry to much about "Open Collar" all that much, or collars in general. With the new memory pool for avatars that will be implemented, I can see a drastic change in how collars, or any multi-animation furnature is going to be very much effective. Those items are pretty memory intensive, with the way they are implemented now.

So, think of this as a chance to get ahead of the curve and create things that take little script memory (if you are capable) or hire a scripter to create one for you, and be the first to come out with the low memory usage collar, or multi-pose furnature, or whatever you create!
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04-30-2009 15:17
From: Amaranthim Talon
Someone get Five a link to the Deviant Thread :D Five - around here it's a badge worn with pride. But not by me of course. I am not at all deviant - nope, not me, uh-uh, not at all.

/me looks through my photo album...
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04-30-2009 15:18
If there is any ironic justice in the world, "The place that will soon not be called Ursula" will thrive and be a HUGE success, and will be SL's biggest feature, while PG Whitelandia dies a slow and agonizing death, and LL chokes on the empty sims.
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04-30-2009 15:20
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/me looks through my photo album...

Mmmm.. coffee table edition? :o
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04-30-2009 15:20
From: Brenda Connolly
... I bet most aren't doing it through a bedsheet with a couple of holes cut in it, in total darkness.


That sounds aberrant to me.
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04-30-2009 15:20
From: Amaranthim Talon
Someone get Five a link to the Deviant Thread :D Five - around here it's a badge worn with pride. But not by me of course. I am not at all deviant - nope, not me, uh-uh, not at all.


Oh yes, it's common around SL. and that's my point.

I would like to see it be represented fairly. I don't want SL to become BDSM world. Or frog sex world. Or any <insert kink> world.

I sympathize with Linden Lab wanting Second Life to be "normal".
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04-30-2009 15:21
From: Five Denver
Oh yes, it's common around SL. and that's my point.

I would like to see it be represented fairly. I don't want SL to become BDSM world. Or frog sex world. Or any <insert kink> world.

I sympathize with Linden Lab wanting Second Life to be "normal".

What is this "normal" thing?
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04-30-2009 15:25
From: Five Denver
Oh yes, it's common around SL. and that's my point.

I would like to see it be represented fairly. I don't want SL to become BDSM world. Or frog sex world. Or any <insert kink> world.

I sympathize with Linden Lab wanting Second Life to be "normal".

I meant here in the Forums - particularly RA- it is a hotbed of deviant behavior. But that's OK Five, you go on with your life and we'll all go on with our own. Live and let live. Amazing isn't? Seems to me, the more deviant the person the more willing to not try and force their values on others.
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04-30-2009 15:26
From: 3Ring Binder
freebies are damaging the economy in SL in general. BSDM will be no different in this aspect.


When I came to SL, I used to type it as BSDM too :) Of course I knew it existed widely in RL. I just wasn't used to saying or typing it.



As for free stuff, particularly scripted stuff in which the scripts are Open Source, this is the way of the Net.
How many here use software called Mozilla <something>?

There's another way of looking at Open Collar in particular.
The free availability of the scripts opens up opportunities for people who are good at primwork to drop the scripts into their creations. The scripts have remain Open, but they control the permissions on the prims.
Some business lose out but other business are created.

The other plus for something like Open Collar is that it presents examples of non-trivial scripting to people learning LSL.

Open Source is here to stay.
Businesses in SL and RL have to live with that.

Businesses that produce 'ordinary' will be most affected.
Business that produce 'exceptional' will be less affected, although they will end up catering for a more appreciative, albeit smaller section of their market.
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04-30-2009 15:27
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What is this "normal" thing?


Go to the mall.

I know, it's not exactly wonderful at the mall. But you wont see a BDSM rack in every other window. Oh, and a man screwing another man in a poodle costume.
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04-30-2009 15:27
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Oh yes, it's common around SL. and that's my point.

I would like to see it be represented fairly. I don't want SL to become BDSM world. Or frog sex world. Or any <insert kink> world.

I sympathize with Linden Lab wanting Second Life to be "normal".


SL is all those things. And none of them. There is no real accurate way to define SL, in a singular sense. It is different things to different people. LL should not be worrying what a bunch of scandal mogering idiots masquerading as journalists have to say about something that most of them haven't even bothered to try beyond 5 minutes if at all.

SL IS normal It is used by human beings. And they each have their own idea of what 'normal" is.
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04-30-2009 15:28
From: Five Denver
Oh yes, it's common around SL. and that's my point.

I would like to see it be represented fairly. I don't want SL to become BDSM world. Or frog sex world. Or any <insert kink> world.

I sympathize with Linden Lab wanting Second Life to be "normal".


"Your world. Your Imagination." The point of SL when it was created was to explore the different and unusual. Regardless of what the their goals are now. I'm sure LL, in their naivety, didn't really think about what would be most prominent, of course. Or maybe they did.

Meh, it is what it is. LL can cleanse it if the choose to, but they will be fighting a battle to get there.
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04-30-2009 15:29
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I meant here in the Forums - particularly RA- it is a hotbed of deviant behavior. But that's OK Five, you go on with your life and we'll all go on with our own. Live and let live. Amazing isn't? Seems to me, the more deviant the person the more willing to not try and force their values on others.


I'm not trying to force my values on anybody. I'm very happy for you and your sexuality.

This is how happy I am -----> :)
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04-30-2009 15:30
From: Sling Trebuchet
When I came to SL, I used to type it as BSDM too :) Of course I knew it existed widely in RL. I just wasn't used to saying or typing it.

well, it's all just BM to me, so i don't really care what it's called or how you spell it. it ain't my shit, and that's all i need to know about it. :rolleyes:
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04-30-2009 15:30
From: Five Denver
Go to the mall.

I know, it's not exactly wonderful at the mall. But you wont see a BDSM rack in every other window. Oh, and a man screwing another man in a poodle costume.

My favorite mall has this in it: http://www.spencersonline.com/StoreLocation.aspx

I've gotten some cool toys there :D
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