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BDSM creators doomed eventually?

Lindal Kidd
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04-30-2009 14:45
From: Briana Dawson
This is how i view it.

LL will be able to claim, unlike the other grids, that they have an Adult Content Grid, where the adult content is controlled and one does not have to worry about running into obscene scenes when showing SL around to their Boss, or Professor or Parents or Children.

This is not the end to anything. This is just the beginning of a new way XXX and extreme violence content is treated on the grid.


Briana, I would agree, IF LL were doing this in any way that made sense. What they ARE doing makes sense only if their ultimate goal is to eliminate adult content from Second Life...and I believe that IS their goal.
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04-30-2009 14:46
From: Harmony Levee
I understand what you mean but in my honest opinion, the sextrade and what have you is what made SL as popular as it is. my opinion ofcourse but I've been here for almost 3 years now and if there's one thing I have seen grow to a enormous rate. It's the sextrade, or better yet the adult oriented things.

I do agree there are much better collars and such out there. I tend to have a brand I rather enjoy alot myself when I do use my collars for my pets. And yes it is a dog eat dog world in SL business. Same as RL basically.

And the Adult content deal, bah. I gave up already on that war, hate to say it. It's a done deal. Sort on interesting though, type in "Ursula" in wikipedia and see some of the things it brings up. Sort of gives you a little wonder.


I reckon Liinden Lab wants SL to reflect RL when it comes to users and demographics. This even includes art being as popular as it in RL. So it's not only BDSM that's gonna take a beating.
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04-30-2009 14:48
From: Five Denver
Before I discovered SL the term BDSM barely existed and yet in SL it's as common as RL golf. I don't think that's a good thing for Second Life.

SL shouldn't have to be a hangout for sexually related cliches.

Linden Lab is going to put a gimp mask on BDSM and lock it in a box. They'll then push the box into a nice SL 2.0 shadow.


Be careful, your special interest may be next to be put into a box.

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04-30-2009 14:48
From: Amaranthim Talon

Thing with SL is that it is a microcosm of life in general - so it takes all kinds is quite literal. There are pervs and prudes anywhere u look.


It is disproportionate with RL though. There's no consequence and one can experiment anonymously.

/me idly wonders if one will be AR'able on the non-adult-continents for using a collar and leash in public. Nothing else, just and obvious D/s relationship in public. I mean, I'm sure people will send the ARs, but will LL act on them?
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04-30-2009 14:50
From: Lindal Kidd
Briana, I would agree, IF LL were doing this in any way that made sense. What they ARE doing makes sense only if their ultimate goal is to eliminate adult content from Second Life...and I believe that IS their goal.


You have said this many times, but never really elaborated with specifics on why you feel this way.

This is not meant as a snark, believe me. I'm genuinely interested in your viewpoint.
Allegria Kanto
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04-30-2009 14:51
OT, but I still chuckle at myself, when as an newcomer, i thought it would be fun to have a cat or dog in my new little apartment. Did my eyes get wide when I searched for "pet"!! :p

Course, now I know all you pervs, so I don't even blink, heehee...
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Brenda Connolly
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04-30-2009 14:51
From: Five Denver
I reckon Liinden Lab wants SL to reflect RL when it comes to users and demographics. This even includes art being as popular as it in RL. So it's not only BDSM that's gonna take a beating.


The irony is, it already does. Most real people I know have sex, and while I haven't surveyed them, I bet most aren't doing it through a bedsheet with a couple of holes cut in it, in total darkness.
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Damien1 Thorne
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04-30-2009 14:52
From: Brenda Connolly
The irony is, it already does. Most real people I know have sex, and while I haven't surveyed them, I bet most aren't doing it through a bedsheet with a couple of holes cut in it, in total darkness.

Wait a minute... there's sex in sl? :confused: :eek:
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04-30-2009 14:52
From: Viciously Llewellyn
You have said this many times, but never really elaborated with specifics on why you feel this way.

This is not meant as a snark, believe me. I'm genuinely interested in your viewpoint.


Maybe because Sex is fun. LL is trying to Corporatize SL, and we all know Corporates hate fun. ;)
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04-30-2009 14:53
From: Love Hastings
It is disproportionate with RL though. There's no consequence and one can experiment anonymously.

/me idly wonders if one will be AR'able on the non-adult-continents for using a collar and leash in public. Nothing else, just and obvious D/s relationship in public. I mean, I'm sure people will send the ARs, but will LL act on them?
No problem.

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Brenda Connolly
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04-30-2009 14:53
From: Damien1 Thorne
Wait a minute... there's sex in sl? :confused: :eek:


*Tosses you a bedsheet. Here, cut some holes in this.
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04-30-2009 14:54
From: Love Hastings
It is disproportionate with RL though. There's no consequence and one can experiment anonymously.


Perhaps ... but I think offline, a lot of people play in various forms on the down low. Some of this play may be very mild ... recreational spankies, etc ...

Then again, all play is very mild on Second Life, as we are only avatars. ;-)
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04-30-2009 14:54
From: Love Hastings
It is disproportionate with RL though. There's no consequence and one can experiment anonymously.

/me idly wonders if one will be AR'able on the non-adult-continents for using a collar and leash in public. Nothing else, just and obvious D/s relationship in public. I mean, I'm sure people will send the ARs, but will LL act on them?


No, but LL will make you get your pet a license. Nice revenue generator.
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04-30-2009 14:54
From: Amaranthim Talon
Did you perhaps mean, 'barely existed for me'? 'Cause people have used the term for a very long time before SL even came inot existence.

NSFW: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sm2.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM#Origins

Thing with SL is that it is a microcosm of life in general - so it takes all kinds is quite literal. There are pervs and prudes anywhere u look.


I mean it barely existed for me and everybody I knew. Of course we were aware of it, but it was like beastiality. It was practiced by weirdos. I think the problem with SL is that it makes it seem more common than it really is.
Amaranthim Talon
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04-30-2009 14:55
From: Love Hastings
It is disproportionate with RL though. There's no consequence and one can experiment anonymously.

/me idly wonders if one will be AR'able on the non-adult-continents for using a collar and leash in public. Nothing else, just and obvious D/s relationship in public. I mean, I'm sure people will send the ARs, but will LL act on them?

I don't think it's illegal in RL - but I am sure it gets a few looks :D
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04-30-2009 14:55
From: Love Hastings
/me idly wonders if one will be AR'able on the non-adult-continents for using a collar and leash in public. Nothing else, just and obvious D/s relationship in public. I mean, I'm sure people will send the ARs, but will LL act on them?

You should run a test... I volunteer Brenda to be your test subject.
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04-30-2009 14:56
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Of course we were aware of it, but it was like beastiality. It was practiced by weirdos.


You see. SL is full of non sexual cliches as well.
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04-30-2009 14:57
From: Allegria Kanto
OT, but I still chuckle at myself, when as an newcomer, i thought it would be fun to have a cat or dog in my new little apartment. Did my eyes get wide when I searched for "pet"!! :p

Course, now I know all you pervs, so I don't even blink, heehee...

Could I interest you in a lovely Golden Cage?
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04-30-2009 14:57
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Originally Posted by Five Denver
Before I discovered SL the term BDSM barely existed and yet in SL it's as common as RL golf. I don't think that's a good thing for Second Life.

SL shouldn't have to be a hangout for sexually related cliches.

Linden Lab is going to put a gimp mask on BDSM and lock it in a box. They'll then push the box into a nice SL 2.0 shadow.


It did, it existed before the net even began as did the furries, It's popularized a lot with the net, but that's not from SL.
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04-30-2009 14:57
freebies are damaging the economy in SL in general. BSDM will be no different in this aspect.
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04-30-2009 14:58
From: Five Denver
I mean it barely existed for me and everybody I knew. Of course we were aware of it, but it was like beastiality. It was practiced by weirdos. I think the problem with SL is that it makes it seem more common than it really is.


youd be surprised how common it is actually. Surprised me when I first got involved in it in RL.
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04-30-2009 15:00
From: Damien1 Thorne
You should run a test... I volunteer Brenda to be your test subject.


Haven't you got politician to make a deal with or someting? On second thought, probably not.
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04-30-2009 15:03
From: Amaranthim Talon
I don't think it's illegal in RL - but I am sure it gets a few looks :D

Yah, sorta like this..

http://www.andymillar.co.uk/gallery/blog-2008/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg?1201049797
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04-30-2009 15:04
From: Five Denver
I mean it barely existed for me and everybody I knew. Of course we were aware of it, but it was like beastiality. It was practiced by weirdos. I think the problem with SL is that it makes it seem more common than it really is.

Five, you really need to get out more... Maybe your friends don't sit around and share their boudoir secrets with you, but I assure you - the 'weirdos' far out number the 'straights'. If you want to get right down to it- in some places the only 'acceptable' sexual activity Missionary. There are states where oral or anal are actually ILLEGAL. Doesn't men it doesn't happen though.
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04-30-2009 15:05
From: Ian Nider
It did, it existed before the net even began as did the furries, It's popularized a lot with the net, but that's not from SL.
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I didn't say it never existed. I'll whip you, bish!
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