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SL5B - No Kid Avatars, please!

Jax Jevon
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05-30-2008 13:57
"Boogerheads" lol
a word I only associate with li'll McCann.
I feel that this is a buisness related stunt by LL and no matter how many of us snub the official party they won't feel it.
The forum is a small fraction of people.
Ann Launay
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05-30-2008 13:57
From: Meade Paravane
Anybody ask her if other groups were not being allowed to contribute?

Goreans and BDSM peeps, sounds like.
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Brenda Connolly
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05-30-2008 13:58
I'm a bit confused. So kids can't contribute a build with a child theme? Is that right?
What if Marianne made, oh let's say helicopters. Would she be forbidden to display hers, while an Adult avatar would be able to show theirs. in other words a kid cannot contribute anything at all?
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Jax Jevon
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05-30-2008 14:00
From: Ann Launay
Goreans and BDSM peeps, sounds like.



Gorean and BDSM have no reason this post.
Meghan Dench
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05-30-2008 14:04
From: Brenda Connolly
I'm a bit confused. So kids can't contribute a build with a child theme? Is that right?
What if Marianne made, oh let's say helicopters. Would she be forbidden to display hers, while an Adult avatar would be able to show theirs. in other words a kid cannot contribute anything at all?


No, I think it just means that Exhibits by Child Avatar Groups showing Child Avs 'Culture' within Second Life. I am against this move myself, and believe it's discrimination.
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05-30-2008 14:04
From: Jax Jevon
Gorean and BDSM have no reason this post.

Meade asked. :p

I will admit those groups don't seem to have a lot in common with child avs though.
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Marianne McCann
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05-30-2008 14:06
From: Meghan Dench
No, I think it just means that Exhibits by Child Avatar Groups showing Child Avs 'Culture' within Second Life. I am against this move myself, and believe it's discrimination.


This is as I understand it as well.

Mari
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Ordinal Malaprop
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05-30-2008 14:07
From: Ann Launay
Meade asked. :p

I will admit those groups don't seem to have a lot in common with child avs though.

If the SL5B thingummy is PG, and they make a PG build, I see no reason to exclude them either (and long-time readers will be aware that I am _hardly_ a supporter of Goreanismishness).
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Brenda Connolly
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05-30-2008 14:10
From: Marianne McCann
This is as I understand it as well.

Mari

Got it thanks. If that were the case, it would hve earned LL the Super Size F.U. It still rubs me the wrong way.
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Ann Launay
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05-30-2008 14:11
From: Ordinal Malaprop
If the SL5B thingummy is PG, and they make a PG build, I see no reason to exclude them either (and long-time readers will be aware that I am _hardly_ a supporter of Goreanismishness).

Yeah, I don't know anything for sure, but there was a comment on the Massively article which indicated Gorean and BDSM had been removed as choices from the registration form. They probably can still participate as long as their builds don't promote that aspect of SL.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ordinal Malaprop
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05-30-2008 14:13
By the way, is there a list anywhere of "communities" who _are_ still allowed to produce builds, having submitted requests?
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Brenda Connolly
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05-30-2008 14:16
From: Ordinal Malaprop
If the SL5B thingummy is PG, and they make a PG build, I see no reason to exclude them either (and long-time readers will be aware that I am _hardly_ a supporter of Goreanismishness).

Absouluely. If all other groups are told that their exhibits must conform to a standardf and they do, fine. But to tell one group they can't exhibit ANYTHING tht represents them is wrong. End of story. If they aren't fit for the event, whih is to show all of what SL is, then in theory, they shouldn't be fit for SL period. Just postulating, I am not advocating doing away with the little ones.
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Colette Meiji
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05-30-2008 14:16
From: Ann Launay
Yeah, I don't know anything for sure, but there was a comment on the Massively article which indicated Gorean and BDSM had been removed as choices from the registration form. They probably can still participate as long as their builds don't promote that aspect of SL.


lumping "SL Kid culture" in with Gorean and BDSM groups makes no sense at all since the sexual age-play aspect of kid avies was after all .. officially eradicated.
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05-30-2008 14:16
I don't understand why it can't show "child avatar culture". We can all agree that the main child Avatar culture is non-sexual in nature, right? If that's the case, what could be more PG? I've met Mari and Dakota in-world. I'm not sure they are even PG. They might be G. If that's the child culture, then it should be showcased, not hidden. LL should be happy to have a child avatar build that they can throw in the face of their detractors who claim it's all about pedophilia and bestiality and God knows what else.

My strategy would be simple. Put the child build up, then call every reporter you can find who is willing to come in-world and say, "Look! This is what people playing child avatars in SL are about - any report to the contrary is biased, sensasionalistic garbage."

Stupid LL. I swear, they have the worst PR of any company I have ever seen. Knock, knock, It's Opportunity, let me in!
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Brenda Connolly
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05-30-2008 14:18
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I don't understand why it can't show "child avatar culture". We can all agree that the main child Avatar culture is non-sexual in nature, right? If that's the case, what could be more PG? I've met Mari and Dakota in-world. I'm not sure they are even PG. They might be G. If that's the child culture, then it should be showcased, not hidden. LL should be happy to have a child avatar build that they can throw in the face of their detractors who claim it's all about pedophilia and bestiality and God knows what else.

My strategy would be simple. Put the child build up, then call every reporter you can find who is willing to come in-world and say, "Look! This is what people playing child avatars in SL are about - any report to the contrary is biased, sensasionalistic garbage."

Stupid LL. I swear, they have the worst PR of any company I have ever seen. Knock, knock, It's Opportunity, let me in!

And most reporters, or their editors or producers will say..."No sleaze? No scandal? No thanks". They are just as useless.
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Marianne McCann
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05-30-2008 14:26
From: Brenda Connolly
And most reporters, or their editors or producers will say..."No sleaze? No scandal? No thanks". They are just as useless.


Or, like Sky News, they would report it as "a build made by the sort of deviants we've reported on blah blah... "
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Winston Chandrayaan
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05-30-2008 14:33
From: Bodhisatva Paperclip
I've read through most of the previous pages of this thread *ow!*

It would be cool if some of the groups who have got builds in the party somehow acknowledged the absence of the kids' build. I don't really know what that might entail, but it might be nice to see. (Not that I'll see it. Whenever one of these big events is held I have a hard time moving around if I can even get in.)


Rusty, abandoned playground ftw.
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Tristin Mikazuki
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05-30-2008 14:37
You can always post on the blogs for more info.. that way more people will see the question and the answer
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Jax Jevon
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05-30-2008 14:37
From: Trout Recreant
I don't understand why it can't show "child avatar culture". We can all agree that the main child Avatar culture is non-sexual in nature, right? If that's the case, what could be more PG? I've met Mari and Dakota in-world. I'm not sure they are even PG. They might be G. If that's the child culture, then it should be showcased, not hidden. LL should be happy to have a child avatar build that they can throw in the face of their detractors who claim it's all about pedophilia and bestiality and God knows what else.

My strategy would be simple. Put the child build up, then call every reporter you can find who is willing to come in-world and say, "Look! This is what people playing child avatars in SL are about - any report to the contrary is biased, sensasionalistic garbage."

Stupid LL. I swear, they have the worst PR of any company I have ever seen. Knock, knock, It's Opportunity, let me in!


Agreed and quoted for truth.
Darien Caldwell
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05-30-2008 14:38
From: Ann Launay
Meade asked. :p

I will admit those groups don't seem to have a lot in common with child avs though.



Other than the fact we are sidelined, our contributions downplayed, and we're left standing on the outside looking in? Yes, no resemblance at all. :p
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Darien Caldwell
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05-30-2008 14:39
From: Colette Meiji
lumping "SL Kid culture" in with Gorean and BDSM groups makes no sense at all since the sexual age-play aspect of kid avies was after all .. officially eradicated.


Well considering one of the 'children' in this thread publicly posted her support of child sex in this very forum two days ago, I'd hardly call it eradicated.

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05-30-2008 14:40
From: Winston Chandrayaan
Rusty, abandoned playground ftw.

Now that's an awesome idea. You could even put some headstones under the swings for added emphasis. And a statue of a crying girl with a popped balloon. Try to make it so sad that the person that made this terrible decision can't get the image out of their head.
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Jax Jevon
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05-30-2008 14:46
Off ya go " Imnotgoing"
You don't belong here.
Ann Launay
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05-30-2008 14:50
From: Darien Caldwell
Other than the fact we are sidelined, our contributions downplayed, and we're left standing on the outside looking in? Yes, no resemblance at all. :p

Erm... :o

I know what I was trying to say, and it wasn't meant to trivialize the discrimination other Residents also experience, but I'm not sure I can explain it without digging myself a deeper hole to lounge about in. :(
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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05-30-2008 14:55
From: Jax Jevon
Off ya go " Imnotgoing"
You don't belong here.
Maybe my opinion doesn't... But, I'm enjoying the place. So I'll stick around for a while. (^_^)y
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