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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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02-18-2008 07:46
From: Cristalle Karami This "oh now they put up ban lines, AR them anyway" is a firm step down the slippery slope. I have to agree with Cristalle, not everything you dislike should be the subject for an AR, sometimes we have to put up with a lousy neighbor and just wait them out. It however was very nice to see all of U---- H-- land getting sold in my sim, and even nicer that the new owner leveled them so the were not sticking up out of the road... I am sure more signs will be put there but hopefully not nearly as annoying. the other signs when the lots have been taking off the market, I'll just live with. (and yes there are some 16m lots with banlines but they are very easy to ignore in light of what we have gained.)
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
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02-18-2008 07:59
From: Nina Stepford in the fine libertarian fashion of 'its my land to with as i please'. Whats a matter Nina, not liking being hoisted by your own petard? I was simply applying your own standard to your actions. I would defy anyone to ever find a time I have either AR'd or harassed anyone for what they do on their land. But then, I am not a hypocrite.
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Raymond Figtree
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02-18-2008 09:17
From: Puppet Shepherd Looking at the land listings at the Ninja lots for sale that used to be Hax lots (I can tell from the map, which shows the old prices), it appears that Hax is dumping them in reverse alpha order, and he's into the M's (well, that's where he was before I crashed, anyway). It might be a little while.
Now, if Hax is dumping the lots at bot prices, rather than market prices, which must be the case since the NinjaBots are picking them up, he probably is losing a little bit of money. Out of curiosity, at what price per meter have the Ninjas set the 16s they are getting?
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Sling Trebuchet
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02-18-2008 10:27
From: Raymond Figtree Out of curiosity, at what price per meter have the Ninjas set the 16s they are getting? I did a "Return to Riback" to see how it was coming along. The remains of the old battleground are still recognisable. Up on the 'stage'/ main grid, I see a scattered collection of Ninja 16s - L$4729 for 432 sq.m. There are a few 16m shellholes in the main part of the original 4096, where Hax defiantly holds out for L$2000 His erections remain, so to speak. Hey! That's not grass. It's mould. Pr**mlands have a 16 at their standard(ish) price of $1495 -- good luck with that! There are others trying to sell from 500 and up. One of the plots actually has ad prims ..... way up high .... about 60m above ground level, which in Riback means that it's just in the clouds! ...... so there's a huge screen on the nearby boundary to hide it. Down in the NE corner oh Highcastle, Hax still exhibits in a few of his original roadside triangle - most at L$9541 a pop, but one at L$24591. And...... guys!!!! There's a dirty great multiple megaprim mountain covering the Linden protected road at that NE corner .... It's kind of spectacular inside that phantom mountain (on the Linden road *cough*) For our added delectation, the perps have BAN LINES - inside the outer mountain, but sort of coinciding with the edge of one of the inner megaprim surfaces. Yup. Walk along that valley and the lines suddenly jump at you out of the mountain. It's all a bit surreal. Hax may not have created any true works of art in his own right, but he's spawned a set of installation art. 
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
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02-18-2008 11:03
From: Sling Trebuchet Pr**mlands have a 16 at their standard(ish) price of $1495 -- good luck with that! Yeah, they are going up, though. Amazing, considering the amount of land being dumped. L$2995 and L$4995 and even one next to me which is a tribute to my ability to get under their skin for L$99000 set to sell to me specifically.  I countered with my own love note adjacent to it. 
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Avion Raymaker
Palacio del Emperador!
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
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02-18-2008 11:36
From: Raymond Figtree Out of curiosity, at what price per meter have the Ninjas set the 16s they are getting? 12.4 L per meter, if I understand correctly how mine went down.
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Nina Stepford
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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02-18-2008 13:56
what are you talking about? you have always championed the right to banline and to do whatever one wants on thier own property. does that not include me as well? or am i both obligated to look at banlines and limited in what i can build on my own property? what is good for one is good for all. if somebody wants to erect banlines and annoy the sim then i am more than happy to return the favour. From: Chris Norse Whats a matter Nina, not liking being hoisted by your own petard?
I was simply applying your own standard to your actions.
well isnt that what you are doing right now? From: someone I would defy anyone to ever find a time I have either AR'd or harassed anyone for what they do on their land. But then, I am not a hypocrite.
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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
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02-18-2008 14:15
From: Nina Stepford what are you talking about? you have always championed the right to banline and to do whatever one wants on thier own property. does that not include me as well? or am i both obligated to look at banlines and limited in what i can build on my own property?
what is good for one is good for all. if somebody wants to erect banlines and annoy the sim then i am more than happy to return the favour. well isnt that what you are doing right now? No, I am saying you are a hypocrite for your signs which are just as much of an eyesore as anything you accuse others of doing. You have every damn right to do what you want on your property. You just don't have the integrity to walk the walk after talking the talk.
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Broccoli Curry
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Join date: 13 Jun 2006
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02-18-2008 14:18
From: Chris Norse No, I am saying you are a hypocrite for your signs which are just as much of an eyesore as anything you accuse others of doing. If the person is knowingly creating that crap kind of view caused by ban lines - then I'd say she has every right to make them aware of what they are doing. The sensible thing, of course, would be for the other person to apologise for spoiling the view, then she can take down the fake banlines and pictures to restore the other person's view, and both can live happily ever after. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening because people who put banlines up for no good reason (and I don't consider any of the "justification" good reasons, sorry) seem to think they are the only people that matter.
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Puppet Shepherd
New Year, New Tricks
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
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02-18-2008 16:22
From: Raymond Figtree Out of curiosity, at what price per meter have the Ninjas set the 16s they are getting? Appears to be starting around 12.5/sq.m. They have some sort of system where they start the lots relatively high to give 'mistakes' an opportunity to contact them before it changes hands again and drop the price every hour until it sells -- I think that's how it was explained to me when I asked. Still, it's a bargain compared to $4951!
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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02-18-2008 21:59
From: Nina Stepford what are you talking about? you have always championed the right to banline and to do whatever one wants on thier own property. does that not include me as well? or am i both obligated to look at banlines and limited in what i can build on my own property?
what is good for one is good for all. if somebody wants to erect banlines and annoy the sim then i am more than happy to return the favour.
Yeah I got some crazy mall owner in Andraca who refuses to drop banlines on vacant flat green blocks. of course they don't border his land and he refuses to swap them for land next to his. Can't have people walking on your vacannt, no build, no script, object entry land can we 
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Ollj Oh
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Join date: 28 Aug 2007
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02-18-2008 22:16
kay linden. so assholes who have ad farms actually have the decensy to complain about being not given much time to comply (read their whinery in their profiles) AND have the decensy to ban anyone from their 16m² land, slippery slope, its still just a loophole for the same purpose, abuse for sale, thats just right next to a road in many cases.
These destroy the sole purpose of roads and make vehicles obsolete. ENJOY YOUR COMING HAVOK4 on mainland but YOULL BE DAMNED touching those previous ad farm lands in a bend.
kay linden, please just BAN those loophole abusing assholes NOW and make linden toads just a little wider.
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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02-18-2008 23:50
From: Puppet Shepherd Looking at the land listings at the Ninja lots for sale that used to be Hax lots (I can tell from the map, which shows the old prices), it appears that Hax is dumping them in reverse alpha order, and he's into the M's (well, that's where he was before I crashed, anyway). It might be a little while. Now, if Hax is dumping the lots at bot prices, rather than market prices, which must be the case since the NinjaBots are picking them up, he probably is losing a little bit of money. Maybe they are the same person?
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
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02-19-2008 00:17
Apparently U.H. dropped his prices in Nikach, including the lovely 16m he had for sale for L$100,000. It looks like it's all bought up at this point, much of it by the Ninjas.
Remember when his profile said not to bother him by asking him for a lower price? Now it says to write him and he'll make the price cheaper.
I hope Avion doesn't mind me stealing a quote from him: "It's a great time being virtually alive".
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Ike Fairweather
Off Tha Chain
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
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02-19-2008 02:39
I wonder what the cut off is. There are a lot of lots with this description.
1024 sqm for $88,888 (86.804 L/sqm) and land loaded with get money quick schemes.
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Broccoli Curry
I am my alt's alt's alt.
Join date: 13 Jun 2006
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02-19-2008 02:44
From: Ike Fairweather I wonder what the cut off is. There are a lot of lots with this description.
1024 sqm for $88,888 (86.804 L/sqm) and land loaded with get money quick schemes. If they're pyramid schemes, AR the objects. Let the land worry about itself - after all, if there's nothing on there spoiling the view, let the owner eat the tier for a month or two and it'll soon come down.
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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02-19-2008 05:35
From: Bradley Bracken I hope Avion doesn't mind me stealing a quote from him: "It's a great time being virtually alive". It hasnt removed all of the ads but the view has become much nicer, we will see what a couple of months will do for us. At least there dosnt seem to be a rush to replace the U... H.. signs with a whole new level of advertising.
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Avion Raymaker
Palacio del Emperador!
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
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02-19-2008 12:01
From: Alice Katayama It hasnt removed all of the ads but the view has become much nicer, we will see what a couple of months will do for us. At least there dosnt seem to be a rush to replace the U... H.. signs with a whole new level of advertising. Bradley, steal away, and share the love! Alice, it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming months. I have a feeling a few advertisers will hold on for a while, out of human pride and stubbornness: an unwillingness to admit that advertising on small parcels in SL is a dumb business model, and was nothing but a front for extortion. Tier payments will catch up with them, and they'll soon go back under the rocks they came from. A few may also continue to lie to customers who rent ad space; and find ways to fake the effectiveness of the ads. These services will likely have to rise in price though, since the operators can't extort money anymore. And businesses are not going to keep paying for these forever, when they find that no one clicks on them, everyone hates them, and the only person making any money is the ad farmer.
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
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02-19-2008 12:09
From: Avion Raymaker I have a feeling a few advertisers will hold on for a while, out of human pride and stubbornness: an unwillingness to admit that advertising on small parcels in SL is a dumb business model, and was nothing but a front for extortion. Tier payments will catch up with them, and they'll soon go back under the rocks they came from. We'll also see more of what we are already starting to see. Land listed as not for sale but then listed that it is in the land description or in the land owners profile. Just a way of delaying the inevitable. LL will get to them too.
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Chris Norse
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02-19-2008 12:12
From: Broccoli Curry
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening because people who put banlines up for no good reason (and I don't consider any of the "justification" good reasons, sorry) seem to think they are the only people that matter.
It isn't your land, so it doesn't really matter if you agree with the justification or not.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-19-2008 12:55
From: Chris Norse It isn't your land, so it doesn't really matter if you agree with the justification or not. Arrrggghhh!!! Chris, we were able to get the thread back on track and away from another ban line thread. Don't go there! Don't go there!
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Shez Oyen
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02-19-2008 13:23
From: Bradley Bracken Don't go there! Don't go there! I'll bring it back... I'm feeling very blue today, the spinning full bright cubes are still twisting around in front of big falls, totally destroying the serenity of sitting there at night. I AR'd them Friday, no joy... the GOA-BOA in yer face ads are still up everywhere and the tequila signs are still stacked so high in Dharmaraksa that there isn't really a way to try and make it look better but a huge screen (blech, that blocks moon at night - can you tell I'm a night person?), oh and the "This is not an adfarm" stack of visual garbage is still up in Ennin. I'm so bumbed. On the FULL BRIGHT cubes in front of the big waterfalls... I tried using the invisible prim thing and it did block out the for sale sign nicely (it is not FULL BRIGHT) but it will not block the bright cubes at all, does anyone know if there is an invisiprim that will muffle light? TIA :  niff::
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Sling Trebuchet
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02-19-2008 13:59
From: Chris Norse It isn't your land, so it doesn't really matter if you agree with the justification or not. Chris must be Hax's alt. And if not, there's still no difference in the attitude.
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Cristalle Karami
Lady of the House
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02-19-2008 14:34
From: Sling Trebuchet Chris must be Hax's alt. And if not, there's still no difference in the attitude. Doesn't change the fact that Chris is right.
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
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02-19-2008 14:40
I love the freedom of the mainland and have always lived there. One of the freedoms I enjoy is being free to be considerate of my neighbors. So I never built anything overwhelming or unsightly. And I always let my fellow sim residents know that my land was open for them to use any time. And of course, I never left ban lines on.
Freedom to me means doing whatever I want, but also being aware that I don't exist in a vacuum and that other people's views and ability to fly or sail around their sim without hitting obstacles matter too. I just feel better and more free when I respect others as well as please myself.
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