Ad Farmer Suspensions Have Started. :)

Hard for a "private citizen" to clear a Mainland sim containing 16m2 parcels with L$500,000 pricetags. Actually, this is kind of interesting though: remember SimCity, where every so often Godzilla would wander through leaving a path of destruction? Maybe SL needs a few random "natural disasters" to just wipe out whole sims, returning all prims to their owners and reverting the land to the Governor.

No, then this 'real', functioning virtual world would turn into a game like world. Maybe it could be a good alternative in the future. Another grid to log into when you want to be in a game situation, where random things can happen, like catastrophes or invations by big monsters. Some people are triggered by that and like it very much and I think it would be fun from time to time myself, but I'd also want to still have the opportunity to log into the type of SL world we have today and be sure of that my land investments aren't destroyed in any catastrophe. Good idea though and I think LL should consider this as I think virtual worlds need to provide more game like environments and happenings on alternative, parallell grids in the future.

Well, I was mostly joking around, but actually was taking it from the "real world" perspective: If content in a virtual world is immortal, that's not very realistic, and there is some virtue in RL disasters: an occasional flood or fire does thin-out the "landmarks"--good and bad. But I'm not really serious about it.

There's no need for that. It's simple. If you're using your land to host advertisements, don't have the land for sale. If you're trying to sell the land, don't put big spammy ads on it. Problem solved.

acteptable price range: L$10/L$11 per sqm

why?

this is what lindens feel justifyable to release more sims to plummet the land prices so anything abouve that is extortion when looking at adfarms

this creates room for normal land sales or unique builds to be sold at "un-normal" LL land prices


there, issue fixed

Interesting question - but what if you ware trying to sell an adfarm?

A legitimate one I mean - that actually uses the "sell advertising space for profit"

Maybe if they sold it all as one parcel?

Listed it as an adfarm?

In the real world, new continents are not springing up every few months.

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Originally Posted by Chip Midnight
There's no need for that. It's simple. If you're using your land to host advertisements, don't have the land for sale. If you're trying to sell the land, don't put big spammy ads on it. Problem solved.


I think the key word here is 'spammy'

neither are there 4 days in 24 hours

But that disparity cannot change the land market overnight, er, over 4 nights.

I don't see that happening. If someone was selling their ad farm business, ads and all, they'd have to also be transfering the contracts they have with those who are advertising through them. It wouldn't make sense for them to just put individual parcels up for sale to anyone unless they weren't concerned about shafting the people who paid them for advertising.

Yes. That is a simple solution. And fair I think. Although, that would mean you can't have a grotesque advert for selling the land itself, but again, I think that is quite fair. Depends on what is grotesque...

I am noticing an increase in small parcels owned by Govenor Linden near parcels set for sale. I suspect some are ad lands abandoned to lower tier.

Although, you see a suspension of someone in the ad farms venue you can't just yet begin to assume it's going down for all ad farms. You have to imagine there was something other then just ad farming involved.

They haven't posted ad farms are illegal, have they?

Not in so many words.


Of course the basic working definition of Ad-farm is a place with ugly ads designed to force neighboring land-owners to buy them out.

So those that fit definition are banned.

Basically the descendants of the "impeach bush sign" guy
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Parcels dedicated to advertising for advertising sake are not banned.

My take is that LL decided to use the generic term "ad farm" instead of "land extortionist" for perhaps obvious reasons. Even though ads do not need to be on the small lot that contains annoying prim(s) with a price set very high, they're still calling it an "ad farm". While I wished for a better description, I can understand what they're doing. And if they can clean up even some of this mess, then it would be a great start towards some improvements.

Follow up... Haha, either it's very syncronistic or the lovely people who own M********** B***** ad abomination saw my post... they have raised the spining eyesores a good 20 meters and added a bunch of them, they took the for sale sign off. LOL, well, I just raised the dorm another 20 meters and will be writing a notecard up with a photo of the mess (I wonder if I should add a few pics of the lovely area being visualy assaulted) to send to each of the advertisers on the spinning vomit to let them know the high regard that M********** B***** holds the neighborhoods they are in.

I think the common use term "Ad-farm" that has evolved doesn't even have to include actual ads.

Its not like most people don't know what an "ad-farm" is. As opposed to Billboards.

I think LL did a great job with this new move.

I believe that it will not only clean out the deliberate extortionists, but it will flat out ruin most advertising business models, as you allude to here, Colette. For now, many of these so-called "legitimate" advertisers have taken their plots off the market. We won't have to wait very long before a lot of them just give up, rather than keep pretending that this type of advertising works one iota. The plots start to recombine, and the mainland starts to heal. It's a great time to be virtually alive.

That's it in a nutshell.

If there is too much trouble in determining what is "exorbitant," they can always just institute this rule.

And probably should, already.

coco

Virtual content in SL is very realistic, as realistic as virtual MP3 music files, virtual JPGs, virtual 3d models, and virtual Quicktime movies. It's all digital content, and they're all the same thing. Immaterial property. (as opposed to material property - real life tangibles such as land and objects which are composed with finite real resources and hence have a higher physical costs to copying.)

The objects that immaterial property are stored on, are tangible, however. Just clearing up the distinction

No, but in the Knowledge Base they specifically instruct you to just put "Ad Farm" in the summary Line when you are submitting an AR. To me that says they are making a statement and not so indirectly.

I feel cheated.

The three people who had put their little ad farms next to my plot (and whose 16m2 parcels have been there ever since I started in SL a year ago) have put their ad crap AWAY. I was JUST about to AR them (no, I don't think 50,000 for 16m2 is a good price...) and the stuff has disappeared....only there's no one else there who could have AR'd them. Edge of the sim on two sides, me on the other two...and the other sims have put up walls anyway.

Now I have some tiny vastly overpriced empty parcels sitting next to mine.

ARRGGGHHH!!!

All they had to do was make the land not for sale and you can't AR them . How low do have to be to waste tier just so you can grief a sim with heinous signs?