Ad Farmer Suspensions Have Started. :)

The options have been "well-discussed" in the forums

However, this thread got into ban-line mode only due to their use as a "legal" griefing tactic by ad-farmers.
Could we please stick to the ad-farmer aspect?

Pretty please????

My suggestion would actually cover both the ad farmer, griefer, clueless noob and paranoid individual reasons for putting up banlines.

You CAN abuse report them even if their land is not up for sale.
I did, and after a few days the signs were deleted.

The abuse report is "visual spam from ad farm"

just a short note on security issues, on the whole I believe everyone has a reasonable right to do what they like in SL, and occasionally I like to remind people that what they consider a 'right' in SL is only actually a privilege to those 'rights'.

anyhow, although I don't consider myself a particularly nosey person, I have noticed a nasty habit I've picked up recently, that when I hit ban lines or get a security orb warning, my first thought is to camera in to see whats going on, now I fly past hundreds of properties a day without 'security' and never give them a second glance. It's probable that if you want to invite griefers to your property stick up some kind of security, it is a challenge to them I guess.

Not quite correct.
The key is as per the Blog "where the intent is purely to compel another resident to pay an unreasonable price to restore their view - then this will be covered under Harassment in our Community Standards."

If it's not for sale, then it's open to the ad-farmer to claim that it's artistic expression.
They do want to try and sell it a huge price though.
So get them to confirm a selling price.

They might claim that the selling price is justified by the sheer merit of their artistic expression.

Then it's time for LL to get balls and say enough is enough Bozo!!

LL don't have to be *fair* - as in collapse in the face of some cartooney 'legal' argument.
They simply have to look at a particular situation and decide that it's an abuse. Bang!
It's THEIR service, THEIR business, being screwed by a bunch of asswipes.

Hmm might have to send him a few more LOL's to cheer him up

So it's getting near the time for me to give him back the L$1 he gave me during the "Battle of Riback" ?

Don't insult my intelligence. So an ad farmer gets pissy and puts up a ban line that the vast majority of people cannot see. BFD. There is a huge difference between a ban line and a prim that is visible within anyone's draw distance, especially over 64 m.

This "oh now they put up ban lines, AR them anyway" is a firm step down the slippery slope. You don't have the right to access their land, period. Ban lines, unfortunately, are implicit to blocking access. Unless you are surrounded on all sides by 16m ban-lined plots and have alpha walls, I think you should be able to deal with it. Realistically, very few people use them, and so what? Let's hope that the apparent mistake in 1.19 vis a vis banlines is permanent, and then that will take away this argument about "visual grief."

Another head in the sand.

If the ban blocks you from 3 sides of your parcel then it is reportable

Well im still here and so are most of us legitimate ad space dealers that have been continualy hounded by mob rule.

infact ive found that due to the new rules we are not as hated as before and so people are more prepared to buy our plots.

so everyone wins. wooohooo!

if your a legit adspace dealer why are you so happy to sell your adspace off? Sounds like you were banking on the neighbors getting so annoyed with your ads that they would buy the parcel they were on.

lol. you are exactly my point about mob rule.

jumps to conclusions, and making mindless assumptions.

im happy becuase i SELL ADSPACE. nothing more, nothing less. if you have a problem with that you can AR me.

thanks

in a point to point teleport world, it is irrelevant.

Looking at the land listings at the Ninja lots for sale that used to be Hax lots (I can tell from the map, which shows the old prices), it appears that Hax is dumping them in reverse alpha order, and he's into the M's (well, that's where he was before I crashed, anyway). It might be a little while.

Now, if Hax is dumping the lots at bot prices, rather than market prices, which must be the case since the NinjaBots are picking them up, he probably is losing a little bit of money.

QFT

Nina isn't making a profit, so I guess her visual griefing is acceptable.

So within 3 days of the Linden Ad Farm announcement the Ad Farmer removes the price tag from his 16sqm parcel altogether. He then embeds an exact 16sqm granite block on the parcel making it difficult to select and check, then adds 3 tiers of ads to the block which has a Pyrimid needle at it's apex THEN on top of that adds 2 despicable spinning red and white "For Sale" signs even though the price details have been removed from the land details.

Is the land for sale or not? I haven't even bothered to request the 'price' but I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be pleasantly surprised.

Is this going to become a common means of flouting the new regulations? do these people understand why their neighbours are pissed ?

Anyone else seen or registered this tactic yet?

16sqm parcels only have 3 prims?

True but if the Parcel owner has more than just that 1 plot in the region he/she can pile on the prim blocks

True... however if the owner of the parcel has more than just 1 16sqm plot in the region he/she can pile on as many as their prim count will allow

in the fine libertarian fashion of 'its my land to with as i please'.

they should just make banlines invisible to everyone.

Then it would no longer be related to this adfarming rule at all.

The land owner wanting to limit access to her parcel has no control over what the ban lines *LOOK* like.

Well he should be in the new sims for sure.
He had to buy 4096s as the minimum parcel size on offer.
Then he dumped most of each 4096 at bot prices -- and thought to cover himself with those random 16s embedded in the (split) 512s that he cut.
If he dumps his grid of 16s from those 4096s at the bot prices too, he's a public service.

I'd guess that he'll try to hold on to those embedded 16s. Maybe he'll remove or reduce the prims on those to 'inoffensive' and wait for offers.
But then, those 'ransom' 512's are only good for use as prim land anyway, so maybe the offers won't come, as someone will have to go through all of those 512s for pure prims before they would need to think about the handful of Hax 16's still hanging around.