Hypocrisy or Overreaction to an RP Region?

/me laughs until his sides split. Precisely. And I pointed this out but she didn't see the humour or reality of that concept. She got offended. Perhaps that was part of the RP and I was just too blind to see it. /me snorts

Sadly, her name wasn't Ilsa. Although perhaps it should have been.

/me ducks

* whips off her pants and waves them in salute.

I see people dressed like this in sl all the time.



Pep (You obviously don't go to the right sort of clubs. )

There is no irony in truth in advertising.

Um... I was surprised that completely out of character behaviour and horseplay carried on and encouraged by the same Polizei was utterly acceptable while being about 10 years off the mark fashionably was the crime of the century.

I was actually prepared to leave after I read the notecard but my partner really wished to see the work our friend had done and our friend was prepared to lead us to it (and she did caution us, by the way, and we shrugged it off knowing full well this could get us into trouble). BUT my real point is not the treatment (that's expected), but the contradiction.

Film at 11? Or bail money the next day?

LMAO. But THAT is also verboten in their notecard of regulations. That's also what I mean!!

The entire RP region is designed so they can dish out their fascist leanings. /me ducks. Seriously now, THAT is a joke.

Agreed on both points, but there is always the exception to the rule in roleplay: the person who drops in at random and makes an enormous effort to fit in and give it their all, in both RP and their general look; the kind of person that any roleplaying group worth their salt would want to hang onto.

Daros and I have roleplayed in many areas in SL, and trust me, that kind of roleplayer is relatively scarce. In fact, we see the same names popping up in new roleplay sims: the good ones that we remember from older sims that have gone under or changed to different models of RP to keep visitors coming. We've had several IM conversations along the lines of, "Oh hey, there's so-and-so, remember her? She was the Bedouin in 1001 and then the Police Chief in Rivet Town," and so on. These are the people who, no matter the ability of the person they are roleplaying with, will give that RP session their all.

Maybe it's the possibility of one of those people dropping by that keeps the sim open-access, although in all honesty if one of those people read those rules they would likely be off as fast as I was

How do you know whether they were asked to stop, whether they were seen misbehaving, and since when outside grade school is 'they were doing it too' an excuse?

Your attitude here comes across as hostile, with the snorting at their rules, the 'um' etc. Maybe they picked up on the same thing.

Btw, the time to read the rules card is upon landing - not after being asked to correct something amiss.

Okay, serious hat on now as your comments are very serious.

The person who was engaging in OOC activity was the same woman who instructed us to change attire. She was IN the group of the other residents who were engaged in said OOC horseplay.

It's not a grade school reaction, it's a "lead by example" reaction. While I am far from lemming mentality, an observation of behaviour by the participants of an RP region leads to an analysis that will influence how I will engage the region (to one degree or another). For instance, Caledon is not RP heavy (although they do drama of the era very well), there is very little rigidity HOWEVER, they do enjoy fun and fanciful RP. No one is ready to tar and feather for me for being a well dressed Victorian Goth (EGA) fox apothecary with an absinthe addiction. When I first arrived in Caledon I was very prim and proper and true to the era, but after observing its other denizens, came to the conclusion that fun and frolick and flexibility was also encouraged.

I am snorting at their rules because in the long run, they do not make sense for many of the reasons indicated in this thread. On one hand they are begging for donations so they can buy a whole sim (which I respect), but on the other they are doing nothing to encourage this donation except from anyone who is of their ilk -- and I'm not sure how many authentic hardcore 1920s Berlin RPers there are in SL -- but somehow I don't think so many that would constantly pony up the cash towards the purchase and maintenance of a sim.

The um and other intonations is a definite fault of my personality and you've thwacked my nose sufficiently. In future I will endeavour to treat every post in this forum with the serious respect it deserves. OK, sorry, see... that was sarcasm and I am trying very hard to be serious in this comment for you. Alright, alright, the truth is -- I am a very easy going, fun loving, humorous individual who enjoys playful attitudes and irony. My humour and observations are not everyone else's. I will make no apologies for my general disposition which has gotten me by in life fairly well thus far.

As a very serious and genuine aside -- I am exceptionally respectful and open minded and CAN shelve my gregarious nature when required.

As for the reading of the notecard -- I DID read it before I followed my friend. And it was at that point I was prepared to leave if not for my partner and friend who wished to go forth. So yes, I guess there is a little lemming inside of me after all.

Thank you for chastising my being.

/me humbly bows

Sorry I am not sufficiently butthurt to suit your ego.

Hi, Pep.

Are we sure this is Pep (with MPD) or perhaps the Son of Pep?

How dare you! I'm not even Welsh )


PPP ( Its just fun to copy his style)

So what?

It is a private sim, right?

case closed.

There was no indication that it was a private sim (although it's entirely possible I misunderstood what I read and saw). They encouraged visitors, asked for donations, and expected everyone except their residents to obey rules.

Unfortunately this is not uncommon.

Many sims are 'private/public'. Private in that they reserve the right to boot you for whatever they want - public in so much as people can visit and follow the rules - no matter how lame they may be.

Often times the sim owners & clique get away with whatever they choose In Character or Out of Character.

Just an expensive themed hang out for friends ultimately.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Pep (Looking for the copyright symbol. )

PS I was once banned from a medieval sim for pointing out to the owner that it was entirely inappropriate for her to be discussing, in public chat, the details of her very modern diet plan; in those days she would have been underfed - and certainly not vegetarian by choice!

I guess in my 2+ years here it's clear I don't get out much. LOL Or I just never normally pay attention to such environments because unless they scratch an itch, I move along. Which, I realize, I should have done in this case, but admittedly couldn't let go of feeling perplexed and a little slighted at the treatment.

I dropped by twice at Berlin's to see if anyone had wore something that did not belong to the era; while at all times, standing at the landing spot to observe. (All my clothes do not fit the said era.) ._.

Until I find an appropriate dress to go with, I am not setting my foot into the sim. I just want to explore with a peaceful mind.

You know what?

That is exactly how it is.

Most people who just want to adventure, explore, have a good time seeing the sites, never realize they are in those type of places until the intolerant and impatient owners or RPers there come around and get ugly.

In general, i don't match any kind of theme unless you are talking about some sort of punkish elf suicide girl type theme. So i get lots of flack wherever i go, even when i do sometimes wear the attire required to fit the theme.

Don't sweat it.

I have to take Elric's side on this one. Very few businesses and attractions in SL can afford to drive off traffic - but that is exactly what the people running this RP sim did. You have to give visitors a little leeway as long as they aren't outright flaunting the rules. Having clothing off by only a few years isn't outright flaunting the rules. Showing up as a furry or gorean in a 20's Berlin themed RP sim is flaunting the rules.

As someone up thread mentioned, RP sims already have a huge task of staying solvent and attracting new players. Had these guys handled themselves better they may have brought two new players into the fold. It's one thing to bounce out an obvious griefer who is going "f*** the rules" and quite another to bounce somebody out who made an attempt to get close enough to pass muster.

Half the businesses and attractions in SL are using bots to gin up their traffic and here is this RP sim turning legitimate traffic away. Who in their right mind does this?

Not only did the sim lose, their vendors lost the chance to sell a bunch of period correct items to enthusiastic new players. Most RP sims are desperate for new players and should be showing their best side when visitors come through.

Nothing says "come join our community" like being an asshat......

ITYM "flouting" the rules.

What if you're this guy?

Ah, thank you, Skell. My first question upon reading the OP was, "What the heck exactly IS 1920's Berlin attire????" The free boxes offered answered that question, at least in the opinion of the sim owners.

I do agree that in any privately owned sim - their place, their rules, but this one sounds over the top to me. The OP behaved admirably in my opinion.