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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 11:23
From: Smith Peel

In Columbus, Ohio, one of the great cities in America,


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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
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09-25-2009 11:23
From: Jig Chippewa
Okay, now speaking as real me, how does that stuff turn on a person? I mean, its still cartoony right? It's not real pain they feel is it? Or do they jab themselves with pins when they are wanking? Do you know, Scylla?

LOL

No idea. At a guess, I would say it is different for different people. Like any aspect of sex?

For ME, personally . . . and it is only personal, I am not suggesting that there is only one "right way" of enjoying sex . . . what is sexy is a partner who engages with me as an equal. Sex in that context becomes either a sort of exercise in sympatico, or a series of equally sexy negotiations, between equally matched partners, about what we want.

It's all about give and take . . . ;)
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Rhonda Huntress
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09-25-2009 11:24
From: Scylla Rhiadra
And it is because BDSM may "mean" one thing, but "says" something quite different, something that reinforces the very stereotypes about gender relations that lie at the heart of misogyny, that I would say that public expressions of BDSM (at least in male/female partnership) are problematic, to say the least.

Umm, the male is not always the top in a male/female D/s relationship. I would be hard pressed to say if there is a more predominanc one way or the other actually. In my limited point of view it does seem to be about an equal ratio.
Argent Stonecutter
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09-25-2009 11:25
From: Milla Janick
I would suggest that vanilla sex is not the reason most people go to Zindra. Vanilla sex is still very much permissible in Mature regions.
So is chocolate, strawberry, pistachio, and brocolli-fudge ripple.

Public vanilla sex is still vanilla.

Private chocolate sex is still chocolate.
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
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09-25-2009 11:28
From: Rhonda Huntress
Umm, the male is not always the top in a male/female D/s relationship. I would be hard pressed to say if there is a more predominanc one way or the other actually. In my limited point of view it does seem to be about an equal ratio.

It may be. What I tried to suggest above is that, despite the obvious similarities, the cultural context (i.e., the fact that women HAVE been subservient for thousands of years) means that the issues are different when it is the female who is the domme, or in the case of same-sex partnerships.

Which is also why, Smif, I think that collars on lesbians or gays are more acceptable, and not just for me, but in terms of social acceptance overall.
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Rhonda Huntress
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09-25-2009 11:28
So this thread has meandered all over different topics ... :cool:
Kalor Rayner
A Face in the Crowd
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09-25-2009 11:30
From: Argent Stonecutter
So is chocolate, strawberry, pistachio, and brocolli-fudge ripple.

Public vanilla sex is still vanilla.

Private chocolate sex is still chocolate.

I like chocolate. Especially with peanut butter. :p

From: Rhonda Huntress
So this thread has meandered all over different topics ... :cool:

Not surprising. ;)
Smith Peel
Smif v2.0
Join date: 10 Jan 2005
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09-25-2009 11:32
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I don't tend to get too tied in knots by spanking, for instance.


You're not doing it right ;))))))

From: Scylla Rhiadra
(/me hears Smif exhale a sigh of relief. ;) )


Ahhhhhhhh ;)))))
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Milla Janick
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09-25-2009 11:32
From: Argent Stonecutter
So is chocolate, strawberry, pistachio, and brocolli-fudge ripple.

Public vanilla sex is still vanilla.

Private chocolate sex is still chocolate.

I'd doubt sex acts in public qualify as vanilla anymore.
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Briana Dawson
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09-25-2009 11:34
From: Scylla Rhiadra
But both men masquerading as women, and RL females do LOTS of other things in SL that reflect poorly on the gender. If you think looking and behaving like a Frankenbarbie hooker is bad, how about becoming a Gorean sex slave?.


What?

The mistake here is that being a Gorean kajira means being a sex slave. And how does a woman wanting to be Gorean reflect poorly on the gender? Especially considering that it is ALL ROLEPLAY.
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:35
From: Melita Magic
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Besides containing the third largest LGBT community in America (and that's a pretty good measure of fabulousness in my estimation) and the largest community of suburban partnered lesbians with cat-children, Columbus also has a law that women can go topless in public :D
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-25-2009 11:36
From: Smith Peel
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I don't tend to get too tied in knots by spanking, for instance.

You're not doing it right ;))))))

Speaking of unintentional communication and the hazards of a careless use of language . . . :o
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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 11:37
From: Smith Peel
Besides containing the third largest LGBT community in America (and that's a pretty good measure of fabulousness n my estimation) and the largest community of suburban partnered lesbians with cat-children, Columbus also has a law that women can go topless in public :D


OH now I get it...Much less disappointing than Silicon Valley for you then. ;P
Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:38
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Speaking of unintentional communication and the hazards of a careless use of language . . . :o


Was it good for you? ;))))))
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:39
From: Melita Magic
OH now I get it...Much less disappointing than Silicon Valley for you then. ;P


Yeah, SF sucks up all the fabulousness there for sure.
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Briana Dawson
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09-25-2009 11:41
Ugh. I've read on and seen more idiotic remarks about Goreans.

What you people making ASSumptions need to do is go on over to the Gorean forums (http://www.goreanforums.com/portal.php) and post some of that bullshit you are saying here, over there.

I can guarantee you that there are more REAL WOMEN on the Gorean forum than there are here, hands down. And sure lots of newbie/Frankenbarbie kajira are men, but basically all i see from those remarking about Gor so far is the usual beyond ignorant into the realm of stupid opinions and assumptions reigning supreme as usual.

As usual, the ignorant thinking Gor = sex; rears its ugly head because the majority of people posting here know everything they know about Gor from these forums or from some newbie that got burned by some Gortard wannabe master (yes lower case 'm').

If you want to make assumptions, post stupid, idiotic bull. Go to the Gorean Forum, and learn something. It is far from what most of you think.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-25-2009 11:43
From: Briana Dawson
The mistake here is that being a Gorean kajira means being a sex slave.

Possibly, Bri, you subscribe to a more sophisticated version of Gor? I've heard of at least some Gorean sims supposedly eschew the sex slave thing. But I can find dozens, if not hundreds, of citations that would back up the overall truthfulness of this claim through a simple search on Google, not to mention through other sources such as Norman's books themselves.
From: Briana Dawson
And how does a woman wanting to be Gorean reflect poorly on the gender?

The entire philosophy behind Gorean culture, as laid out in the books, and in its expression both in SL and RL, is built upon the inferiority and subservience of the female. Again, I could fill a thread with citations to this effect.

ETA: I make no claims about the number of "real women" in Gor. And I am not suggesting that Gor is ONLY about sex. I AM suggesting, and will repeat, that Gor is built upon misogynist assumptions. And THAT opinion is not based on hearsay or rumour, but on a great deal of reading, including in scholarly sources. And yes, also on Gorean forums.
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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09-25-2009 11:43
From: Briana Dawson
What?

The mistake here is that being a Gorean kajira means being a sex slave. And how does a woman wanting to be Gorean reflect poorly on the gender?


Someone asked me to be their Kajira once and I lasted three days. Sitting there listening to some old bag complain about the girl on the floor while this bloke was saying "Girl, accompany me to to Seeding Room" or some such nonsense.

Oh yeah and he wanted me to say I belonged to him in my profile (which he can think again sharpish) and wear a collar which made me look liek I was being led around like a puppy. Definitely NOT a turn on. What a tosser! He was from New Zealand and liked hobbits.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-25-2009 11:45
From: Kalor Rayner
I like chocolate. Especially with peanut butter. :p
Peanut butter is broadly offensive.
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:46
From: Jig Chippewa
...this bloke was saying "Girl, accompany me to to Seeding Room"


OK, that's hot... I'm might gonna have to look into this Gor thing ;)))))
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:46
From: Argent Stonecutter
Peanut butter is broadly offensive.


Depends where you put it.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-25-2009 11:47
From: Milla Janick
I'd doubt sex acts in public qualify as vanilla anymore.
Humans are so boring.
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
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09-25-2009 11:48
From: Smith Peel
OK, that's hot... I'm might gonna have to look into this Gor thing ;)))))


Oh God, now I wish I hadnt said anything. Now Smith's not gonna stop saying things like "To teh Seeding Room" or "Let's do some fertilizing"
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:48
From: Argent Stonecutter
Humans are so boring.


I blame the invention of pants.
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 11:49
From: Jig Chippewa
Oh God, now I wish I hadnt said anything. Now Smith's not gonna stop saying things like "To teh Seeding Room" or "Let's do some fertilizing"


It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta make the prim babies.
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