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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 07:10
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Intentional self-parody, no. Unintentional? Sure, all the time in SL. Like that guy who sees you in the store . . . the one with the six-foot wide shoulders and wasp waist who IMs you with that sure-to-win opening line, "U R HOT"?


Is it self parody if it's unintentional? Or darkly tragic?

Lol.
Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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09-25-2009 07:12
From: Melita Magic

Plaid shirt, dirty undies, smelly feet, bald patch with combover, and belches every two minutes. Who's with me?
That's pretty much what I had Argent David dressed in for a long while, well, except that he was a cat. Big old sloppy tomcat with chewed ears.

You have any idea how hard it is to get a decent plaid shirt on SL? Avatar Mesh, I curse thee!
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Lota Lyon
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09-25-2009 07:13
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I wish it were that simple. But both men masquerading as women, and RL females do LOTS of other things in SL that reflect poorly on the gender. If you think looking and behaving like a Frankenbarbie hooker is bad, how about becoming a Gorean sex slave? Or consenting to rape RP, thereby broadcasting the message that women really get "turned on" by sexual violence?

I'd love to blame these all on men playing women. And an awful lot of them, I suspect, are. But it's not just men who need to be educated about the damaging stereotypes that our culture applies to women.



This I totally agree with! It’s one of the few things I really find offensive about SL. It boggles my mind to think a woman would do these things.... haven’t they every had to walk out to their car in a dark, nearly disserted parking lot late at night, alone? I’ve always just assumed all the GOR slaves and rape RP’ers were men but perhaps your right. Personally I blame men for most of the damaging stereotypes presented of woman but I guess we do earn a few of them ourselves.
Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 07:14
From: Argent Stonecutter
You have any idea how hard it is to get a decent plaid shirt on SL? Avatar Mesh, I curse thee!


/me grins. Plaid *is* awfully hard to make virtual clothing in - getting all those lines to match at the seams. Nightmare.
Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
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09-25-2009 07:35
From: Lota Lyon
Personally I blame men for most of the damaging stereotypes presented of woman but I guess we do earn a few of them ourselves.

I think it's probably true to say that, ultimately, damaging stereotypes were IMPOSED by men. Historically, it has been men who controlled the media, and the loudest and most authoritative voices in our society. But co-opting women into buying these stereotypes has always been a strategic aim. Take a look at a woman's magazine from the 50s, for example.

Teaching the victim to embrace her victimization has always been a strategy of tyranny, of whatever kind. Remember the Epsilons on Huxley's Brave New World? They LOVED being at the bottom of the social scale; how much freer were they than the Alphas, who had to think and carry onerous responsibilities!
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Seven Okelli
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09-25-2009 07:39
From: Melita Magic
Lol. Gave me an idea. For every crack ho-ish avatar run by a real life male, we should create an equally awful stereotype of a male avatar, run by a female.

Plaid shirt, dirty undies, smelly feet, bald patch with combover, and belches every two minutes. Who's with me?


You might start a trend among the men - they'd see that avatar and say, "*That's* what I'm talking about! Where'd you get that avatar, dude?"
Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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09-25-2009 07:49
From: Argent Stonecutter
You have any idea how hard it is to get a decent plaid shirt on SL? Avatar Mesh, I curse thee!

The AV store in the Livingtree sim has some rather nice plaid shirts actually. Center of the sim, the only L shaped building, can't miss it.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-25-2009 07:50
From: Kara Spengler
The AV store in the Livingtree sim has some rather nice ones actually. Center of the sim, the only L shaped building, can't miss it.
Too late now. You KNOW guys only need ONE plaid shirt.
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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 07:51
From: Seven Okelli
You might start a trend among the men - they'd see that avatar and say, "*That's* what I'm talking about! Where'd you get that avatar, dude?"


*screams until her voice is hoarse and fades away*

(I think you're right. Although it might also be hilarious - I wish someone made parody avatars.)
Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-25-2009 07:54
Someone say plaid? =^-^=

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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 07:55
From: Argent Stonecutter
Too late now. You KNOW guys only need ONE plaid shirt.


So true - and it seems to grow along with them no matter how tall or round they get and last a lifetime. Kind of like the Incredible Hulk's pants.
Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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09-25-2009 08:04
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Someone say plaid? =^-^=


Hmm ... it looks like the pattern of the top does not quite match what was used for the skirt though? Maybe a solid reddish-rust for the top like the hair and a jet black (or brighter red) wig?
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Never shalt we define thee.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-25-2009 08:06
From: Kara Spengler
Hmm ... it looks like the pattern of the top does not quite match what was used for the skirt though? Maybe a solid reddish-rust for the top like the hair and a jet black (or brighter red) wig?
Oi! Hands off the hair! *flails* (>_<;)

Actually... I did change to Curio's Sausage Curls after taking that picture. =^-^=
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Smith Peel
Smif v2.0
Join date: 10 Jan 2005
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09-25-2009 08:09
From: Mickey Vandeverre
Real People Roleplay.


OK, but whether you are roleplaying your whole SL personality...Nevermind...Nobody would check that box anyway :rolleyes:
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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 08:11
From: Smith Peel
OK, but whether you are roleplaying your whole SL personality...Nevermind...Nobody would check that box anyway :rolleyes:


How do you roleplay a personality?

That sounds too much like a job to me. I only do things for love or money. Assuming no one is being paid to manufacture an entire real life self, what would be the payoff in 'roleplaying a personality?'

(If you mean fabricated real life details, no one should ask for those anyway, in my opinion.)
Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 08:16
From: Scylla Rhiadra
If you think looking and behaving like a Frankenbarbie hooker is bad, how about becoming a Gorean sex slave? Or consenting to rape RP, thereby broadcasting the message that women really get "turned on" by sexual violence?


No rational person would believe that women get turned on by real sexual violence. However, what they fantasize about or do safe in their own bedrooms* is sometimes another story.











*Or mine :D
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Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 08:20
From: Melita Magic
How do you roleplay a personality?


Invent one. With RL details to match if necessary.

From: Melita Magic
That sounds too much like a job to me. I only do things for love or money. Assuming no one is being paid to manufacture an entire real life self, what would be the payoff in 'roleplaying a personality?'


Mainly screwing with people's heads.

From: Melita Magic
(If you mean fabricated real life details, no one should ask for those anyway, in my opinion.)


So we see which camp you are in ;)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-25-2009 08:21
From: Smith Peel
No rational person would believe that women get turned on by real sexual violence. However, what they fantasize about or do safe in their own bedrooms is sometimes another story.

Agreed. But it ain't the rational ones I worry about.
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Melita Magic
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09-25-2009 08:22
From: Smith Peel
So we see which camp you are in ;)


Whatever you are implying here - I hate camping.
Mickey Vandeverre
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09-25-2009 08:23
From: Smith Peel




Mainly screwing with people's heads.





I don't think that it's always "mainly" screwing with people's heads. Some times I roleplay being very nice.
Smith Peel
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09-25-2009 08:25
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Agreed. But it ain't the rational ones I worry about.


True, but then they don't need any convincing one way or the other. Since they are not rational.
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Kara Spengler
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09-25-2009 08:29
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Oi! Hands off the hair! *flails* (>_<;)

Okay, as long as nobody tries to remove the styles from Taunt that my AVs use.
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'O predictable experience,
O predictable experience,
Never shalt we define thee.
Our users think that means no lagging,
But we say they want no shagging.
O predictable experience,
O predictable experience,
We love you null expression.'
Rhonda Huntress
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09-25-2009 08:35
I think I might make a male alt and go around hitting on the other guys :D

No, that would be mean and hurtful to the guys who are most certianly NOT running around as women and hitting on other women.

How easy do you think it would be to fool everyone.
I will need to get Emerald fixed so I could go on voice too! I bet I could do it. :cool:
Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
Join date: 11 Oct 2008
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09-25-2009 08:36
From: Smith Peel
True, but then they don't need any convincing one way or the other. Since they are not rational.

This is too black-and-white a response. The world isn't divided into "rational" and "irrational" people: there is an enormously broad spectrum.

And either way, we have to contend with those who WILL believe that women "want it" even when they are clear that they don't, whether it's through education or other means.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-25-2009 08:37
From: Rhonda Huntress
No, that would be mean and hurtful to the guys who are most certianly NOT running around as women and hitting on other women.

LOL!!

Uh, yeah . . .
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